Jump to content


Photo

Conceal Carry a Knife?


This topic has been archived. This means that you cannot reply to this topic.
16 replies to this topic

#1 Slappy

    Member

  • Members
  • 3,102 posts
  • Joined: 27-January 08

Posted 28 January 2008 - 11:16 PM

I've recently moved into Cook County, as I mentioned in another thread.

I know there is no CCW in Illinois, however can a person carry a tactical folding knife in their pocket without fear of arrest?

I know its not as effective as the 9mm compact I would carry, but at least its something!!!

Thanks everyone!
SAFR Subsite

Illinoiscarry Document Repository


Thanks to everyone who has contributed! Lets keep em coming!

#2 Ocellairs

    Member

  • Members
  • 9,282 posts
  • Joined: 16-March 05

Posted 28 January 2008 - 11:25 PM

I've recently moved into Cook County, as I mentioned in another thread.

I know there is no CCW in Illinois, however can a person carry a tactical folding knife in their pocket without fear of arrest?

I know its not as effective as the 9mm compact I would carry, but at least its something!!!

Thanks everyone!



Always check local jurisdiction. IIRC, as long as the blade is less than 3 inches. BUT, if an arse wanted to make him/herself out to be a bigger arse. They could say that you was carrying a dangerous weapon and let "you" fight it out in court.

Always remember that others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them. And then you destroy yourself.
Richard M Nixon


For I dipped into the Future, far as human eye could see; saw the vision of the world, and all the wonder that would be.

Alfred Lord Tennyson

1842


Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.


#3 Slappy

    Member

  • Members
  • 3,102 posts
  • Joined: 27-January 08

Posted 28 January 2008 - 11:32 PM

Always check local jurisdiction. IIRC, as long as the blade is less than 3 inches. BUT, if an arse wanted to make him/herself out to be a bigger arse. They could say that you was carrying a dangerous weapon and let "you" fight it out in court.


Thanks... so 3 inches or less is ok then... good to know! I wasnt planning on strapping a machete to myself or anything but I do have a nice 5 inch knife I cant stick in my pocket then!

I guess Illinois just doesn't want to see it citizenry safe... sad really...
SAFR Subsite

Illinoiscarry Document Repository


Thanks to everyone who has contributed! Lets keep em coming!

#4 gravyboy77

    Member

  • Members
  • 5,629 posts
  • Joined: 15-March 05

Posted 29 January 2008 - 07:32 AM

Always check local jurisdiction. IIRC, as long as the blade is less than 3 inches. BUT, if an arse wanted to make him/herself out to be a bigger arse. They could say that you was carrying a dangerous weapon and let "you" fight it out in court.


Thanks... so 3 inches or less is ok then... good to know! I wasnt planning on strapping a machete to myself or anything but I do have a nice 5 inch knife I cant stick in my pocket then!

I guess Illinois just doesn't want to see it citizenry safe... sad really...


Actually the state police have stated that there are things that you could protect yourself with.....

from the illinois state police website:

Articles common to your handbag that make useful defense weapons.

* nail file
* rat tail comb
* teasing brush
* pens and pencils
* keys
* anything rigid


Also some towns are giving away bright colored whistles! :thumbsup:
"The Obama administration: Erasing the line between satire and reality since January 20, 2009″

How much more Illegal than Illegal can we make it to murder someone with an Illegally possessed anything?

#5 dorvinion

    Still living too close to the Iron Curtain

  • Members
  • 2,811 posts
  • Joined: 10-March 05

Posted 29 January 2008 - 07:54 AM

In Chicago proper, anything over 2.5 inches is illegal to carry.
Not sure if Cook has its own ordinance.


As far as most of the rest of Illinois, you can lawfully carry knives over 3 inches. Just don't commit any crimes while doing so, or show intent to commit a crime.
Did you ever notice that when you blow in a dog's face, he gets mad at you,
but when you take him for a car ride, he sticks his head out the window?

#6 Buzzard

    Member

  • Members
  • 8,875 posts
  • Joined: 29-March 07

Posted 29 January 2008 - 08:17 AM

What about tazers? I saw where a company is makin' em in designer colors for the womenfolk, and hosting sales parties much like tupperware!
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes,
but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda,
they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles." — Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle

#7 dorvinion

    Still living too close to the Iron Curtain

  • Members
  • 2,811 posts
  • Joined: 10-March 05

Posted 29 January 2008 - 09:01 AM

Can't carry them at all
Did you ever notice that when you blow in a dog's face, he gets mad at you,
but when you take him for a car ride, he sticks his head out the window?

#8 Suburbangunslinger

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 409 posts
  • Joined: 26-November 07

Posted 29 January 2008 - 09:08 AM

Under the criminal code of 1968 you can carry almost anything, but the moment you inflict harm
upon a street-thug who is accosting you, under the criminal code YOU become the criminal the
moment you use a handgun,knife or baton in self-defense.
I love the .308

Who are the real criminals? Every Crook County pundit who wants to disarm me via gun-control!

High capacity= more time to shoot the target and have fun

Live everyday like a Friday

#9 SmershAgent

    Member

  • Admin
  • 4,376 posts
  • Joined: 29-August 04

Posted 29 January 2008 - 10:19 AM

What about tazers? I saw where a company is makin' em in designer colors for the womenfolk, and hosting sales parties much like tupperware!


In addition to being prohibited from carrying a taser, you must present a FOID card to even purchase one. Since these items are so heavily restricted in Illinois, there's almost no reason to bother having one. The only completely legal way to use one would be in self-defense on your own property, in which case I'd rather trust my life to a firearm.
My right to own a gun protects your right to tell me I can't

#10 Suburbangunslinger

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 409 posts
  • Joined: 26-November 07

Posted 29 January 2008 - 11:02 AM

You can get around that by purchasing online. Tasers are not firearms so you do not need an FFL to order one.
I love the .308

Who are the real criminals? Every Crook County pundit who wants to disarm me via gun-control!

High capacity= more time to shoot the target and have fun

Live everyday like a Friday

#11 dorvinion

    Still living too close to the Iron Curtain

  • Members
  • 2,811 posts
  • Joined: 10-March 05

Posted 29 January 2008 - 11:06 AM

You can get around that by purchasing online. Tasers are not firearms so you do not need an FFL to order one.


You still need a FOID to possess.
And you still can't carry it, even with a FOID.

Even the waiting period applies when dealing with tasers. Can't remember if its 24 or 72 hours, but I know it applies.
Did you ever notice that when you blow in a dog's face, he gets mad at you,
but when you take him for a car ride, he sticks his head out the window?

#12 burningspear

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 784 posts
  • Joined: 23-May 07

Posted 29 January 2008 - 03:25 PM

In Chicago proper, anything over 2.5 inches is illegal to carry.
Not sure if Cook has its own ordinance.


As far as most of the rest of Illinois, you can lawfully carry knives over 3 inches. Just don't commit any crimes while doing so, or show intent to commit a crime.

You are correct. The Chicago ordinance makes it illegal if you are 19 years of age or older to possess or carry a knife with a blade longer than 2.5 inches. This means that an otherwise lawful citizen walking across the street to his neighbor's barbecue with a butcher knife -- I know of no butcher knife with a blade shorter than 2.5 inches -- to carve a turkey or to slice ribs is violating the ordinance, particularly if the knife were concealed.

The section refers to concealment of the knife. Maybe open carry is permitted. Also, to play devil's advocate, open carry of the other listed items would not violate this section of the ordinance. (Of course, there are other sections of the ordinance and the state code that a person who openly carried the prohibited items would run afoul.)

Here is the code:

No person shall carry concealed on or about his person a pistol, revolver, derringer or other firearm or dagger, dirk, stiletto, bowie knife, commando knife, any blade of which is released by a spring mechanism, including knives known as "switch-blades" or any other type or kind of knife, any blade of which is more than two and one-half inches in length, ordinary razor or other dangerous weapon except that no person 18 years of age or under shall carry concealed on or about his person, any knife, the blade of which is two inches in length or longer.

Municipal Code of the City of Chicago 8-24-020 Carrying dangerous weapons.

#13 Slappy

    Member

  • Members
  • 3,102 posts
  • Joined: 27-January 08

Posted 29 January 2008 - 04:55 PM

You are correct. The Chicago ordinance makes it illegal if you are 19 years of age or older to possess or carry a knife with a blade longer than 2.5 inches. This means that an otherwise lawful citizen walking across the street to his neighbor's barbecue with a butcher knife -- I know of no butcher knife with a blade shorter than 2.5 inches -- to carve a turkey or to slice ribs is violating the ordinance, particularly if the knife were concealed.

The section refers to concealment of the knife. Maybe open carry is permitted. Also, to play devil's advocate, open carry of the other listed items would not violate this section of the ordinance. (Of course, there are other sections of the ordinance and the state code that a person who openly carried the prohibited items would run afoul.)

Here is the code:

No person shall carry concealed on or about his person a pistol, revolver, derringer or other firearm or dagger, dirk, stiletto, bowie knife, commando knife, any blade of which is released by a spring mechanism, including knives known as "switch-blades" or any other type or kind of knife, any blade of which is more than two and one-half inches in length, ordinary razor or other dangerous weapon except that no person 18 years of age or under shall carry concealed on or about his person, any knife, the blade of which is two inches in length or longer.

Municipal Code of the City of Chicago 8-24-020 Carrying dangerous weapons.



Good to know... but this does not apply to the suburbs, correct? Only Chicago proper...

Thanks!
SAFR Subsite

Illinoiscarry Document Repository


Thanks to everyone who has contributed! Lets keep em coming!

#14 dorvinion

    Still living too close to the Iron Curtain

  • Members
  • 2,811 posts
  • Joined: 10-March 05

Posted 29 January 2008 - 05:18 PM

That is only for Chicago correct.

Some suburbs though may have their own restrictive knife laws though, and of course I'm not sure but Cook may very well have an ordinance as well.
Did you ever notice that when you blow in a dog's face, he gets mad at you,
but when you take him for a car ride, he sticks his head out the window?

#15 burningspear

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 784 posts
  • Joined: 23-May 07

Posted 29 January 2008 - 05:30 PM

You are correct. The Chicago ordinance makes it illegal if you are 19 years of age or older to possess or carry a knife with a blade longer than 2.5 inches. This means that an otherwise lawful citizen walking across the street to his neighbor's barbecue with a butcher knife -- I know of no butcher knife with a blade shorter than 2.5 inches -- to carve a turkey or to slice ribs is violating the ordinance, particularly if the knife were concealed.

The section refers to concealment of the knife. Maybe open carry is permitted. Also, to play devil's advocate, open carry of the other listed items would not violate this section of the ordinance. (Of course, there are other sections of the ordinance and the state code that a person who openly carried the prohibited items would run afoul.)

Here is the code:

No person shall carry concealed on or about his person a pistol, revolver, derringer or other firearm or dagger, dirk, stiletto, bowie knife, commando knife, any blade of which is released by a spring mechanism, including knives known as "switch-blades" or any other type or kind of knife, any blade of which is more than two and one-half inches in length, ordinary razor or other dangerous weapon except that no person 18 years of age or under shall carry concealed on or about his person, any knife, the blade of which is two inches in length or longer.

Municipal Code of the City of Chicago 8-24-020 Carrying dangerous weapons.



Good to know... but this does not apply to the suburbs, correct? Only Chicago proper...

Thanks!


This ordinance applies to Chicago. However, a few other communities in Illinois, such as Peoria, have ordinances concerning the possession and carry of knives. Check out http://www.handgunla...nts/USKnife.pdf.

#16 RancidWannaRiot

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 242 posts
  • Joined: 11-November 07

Posted 29 January 2008 - 08:09 PM

Also some towns are giving away bright colored whistles! laugh.png


My college campus is giving those out... they're called rape whistles...

#17 Slappy

    Member

  • Members
  • 3,102 posts
  • Joined: 27-January 08

Posted 31 January 2008 - 12:52 AM

My college campus is giving those out... they're called rape whistles...



What a joke... I bought my girlfriend a rape whistle... though its called a Glock 9mm by most people... :thumbsup:
SAFR Subsite

Illinoiscarry Document Repository


Thanks to everyone who has contributed! Lets keep em coming!