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#1 ILgunguy

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Posted 15 May 2019 - 05:05 PM

So, here it is. The proposed new FOID law, which includes $50 for 5 years, plus state police fees, plus fingerprints ($60-85). And soooo much more.

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Posted 15 May 2019 - 05:42 PM

It includes all the transfer garbage.

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Posted 15 May 2019 - 05:44 PM

Wasn't there courts involved when they were only allowed to raise it from $5 to $10 when it's expiration was also raised from 5 to 10 years.

 

They need to start charging to register (to vote), same difference. 


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Posted 15 May 2019 - 05:53 PM

Just another reason to get the h*** out of this state. So it will cost over $100 to get a foid renewed. This state really sucks!

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Posted 15 May 2019 - 06:01 PM

Makes possession of firearms unlawful in the same house as a convicted felon. ^ this ***

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Posted 15 May 2019 - 06:11 PM

More money for cronies.


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Posted 15 May 2019 - 06:15 PM

Synopsis of changes, but by no means a complete list

Synopsis:
SB 1966 (HCA 0001)
Replaces everything after the enacting clause. Amends the Department of State Police Law of the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. Provides that the Director of State Police shall (rather than may) establish a statewide multi-jurisdictional Violent Crime Intelligence Task Force. Provides that the Violent Crime Intelligence Task Force shall also conduct enforcement operations against persons whose Firearm Owner's Identification Cards have been revoked or suspended and persons who fail to comply with the revocation or suspension requirements of the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act, prioritizing individuals presenting a clear and present danger to themselves or to others under that Act. Provides that the Task Force shall collaborate with local law enforcement agencies to enforce provisions of the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act, the Firearm Concealed Carry Act, the Firearm Dealer License Certification Act, and the Deadly Weapons Article of the Criminal Code of 2012. Provides that the Director of State Police may establish intergovernmental contracts written and executed in conformity with the Intergovernmental Cooperation Act. Provides that the Department of State Police shall establish a portal for use by federal, State, or local law enforcement agencies, including Offices of the State's Attorneys and the Office of the Attorney General to capture a report of persons whose Firearm Owner's Identification Cards have been revoked or suspended. Amends the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act. Modifies definition of "clear and present danger". Provides that an applicant for the issuance or renewal of a Firearm Owner's Identification Card shall include a full set of his or her fingerprints in electronic format to the Department of State Police, unless the applicant has previously provided a full set of his or her fingerprints to the Department under the Act or the Firearm Concealed Carry Act. Provides that a Firearm Owner's Identification Card issued under the Act shall be valid for the person to whom it is issued for a period of 5 years (rather than 10 years) from the date of issuance, but provides that any person whose card was previously issued for a period of 10 years shall retain the 10-year issuance period until the next date of renewal, at which point the card shall be renewed for 5 years. Provides that a person who receives a revocation or suspension notice under the Act (currently, only revocation notice) shall, within 48 hours of receiving notice of the revocation or suspension: (1) surrender his or her Firearm Owner's Identification Card to the local law enforcement agency where the person resides; and (2) complete a Firearm Disposition Record on a form prescribed by the Department of State Police and place his or her firearms in the location or with the person reported in the Firearm Disposition Record. Provides that any transfer of a surrendered firearm must be conducted under the firearm transfer provisions of the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act. Provides that nothing in the firearm revocation or suspension provisions of the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act prevents a court from ordering an individual to surrender his or her Firearm Owner's Identification Card to a law enforcement agency of the court's choosing in a timeframe shorter than 48 hours after receipt of the notice of revocation or suspension. Provides that the Firearm Disposition Record shall contain a statement to be signed by the transferee that the transferee: (1) is aware of, and will abide by, current law regarding the unlawful transfer of a firearm; (2) is aware of the penalties for violating the law as it pertains to unlawful transfer of a firearm; and (3) intends to retain possession of the firearm or firearms until it is determined that the transferor is legally eligible to possess a firearm and has an active Firearm Owners Identification Card, if applicable, or until a new person is chosen to hold the firearm or firearms. Amends the State Finance Act. Creates the State Police Revocation Enforcement Fund and the School-Based Mental Health Services Fund in the State treasury and defines their purposes. Amends the Firearm Concealed Carry Act. Provides that an applicant for renewal need not resubmit a full set of fingerprints if the applicant has previously done so under the Act or the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act. Amends the Criminal Code of 2012. Provides that a person commits the offense of unlawful sale or delivery of firearms when he or she transfers ownership of a firearm to a person in violation of the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act. This offense is a Class 4 felony. Amends the Code of Criminal Procedure of 1963 and the Unified Code of Corrections. Modifies requirements for transfer of firearms to a law enforcement agency as required under those Acts. Makes other changes. Effective immediately.
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Posted 15 May 2019 - 06:56 PM

Here is the link to submit witness slips:

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Edited by Molly B., Link was to original bill. We need the one to the amendment.

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Posted 15 May 2019 - 06:57 PM

Committee hearing tomorrow, but witness slip only shows for original bill, not amendment 1.
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Posted 15 May 2019 - 07:04 PM

Committee hearing tomorrow, but witness slip only shows for original bill, not amendment 1.


Yeah. It's Senate Amendment 1 that needs witness slips. It might be better to wait until tomorrow.
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Posted 15 May 2019 - 07:07 PM

Committee hearing tomorrow, but witness slip only shows for original bill, not amendment 1.


I dont see a committee hearing tomorrow but next week.

SB1966 Julie A. Morrison. (Kathleen Willis)

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**** SB 1966 Judiciary - Criminal Committee Hearing May 21 2019 8:30AM Stratton Building Room C-1 Springfield, IL

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Posted 15 May 2019 - 07:15 PM

Looks like judiciary meets tomorrow also, but it's not on their calendar till the 21st.
Of course that can change overnight...
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Posted 15 May 2019 - 07:21 PM

The amendment is still in the Rules Committee, so we can't file witness slips just yet.

We will definitely get an alert out as soon as witness slips are possible.

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Posted 15 May 2019 - 07:53 PM

Suspect the amendment to bill will be heard in committee on the 21st.
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Posted 15 May 2019 - 08:24 PM

Makes possession of firearms unlawful in the same house as a convicted felon.


^ this ***

Is this even legal? How do they deny someone their rights when they've done nothing wrong?

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Posted 15 May 2019 - 08:37 PM

full story at link

https://abc7chicago....-cards/5302191/

CHICAGO (WLS) -- New legislation introduced late Wednesday afternoon in Springfield would, for the first time, require gun owners to be fingerprinted.

Under the proposal, a Firearm Owners Identification Card would surge in price from $10 to $50 and the duration of the card would be cut in half from ten years to five years.

Northlake Democrat Kathleen Willis is sponsor of the bill and told the ABC7 I-Team that it was filed just before 5pm. Rep. Willis says the money generated by increased FOID fees would completely fund increased enforcement by Illinois State Police and fund grants for a new mental health program in schools.

READ: "Fix the FOID Act"

FOID cards are required for the legal purchase of firearms and ammunition in Illinois.

In an exclusive interview with the ABC7 I-Team, acting state police director Brendan Kelly said that the five-fold increase in FOID fees would fund stepped-up law enforcement efforts to enforce Illinois gun laws....

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Posted 15 May 2019 - 08:41 PM

ABC7 ITeam tonight rides along on recovering firearms from revoked FOIDS

https://abc7chicago....stlers/5301618/
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Posted 15 May 2019 - 08:48 PM

Like the greedy pigs they are, Willis and the rest are oblivious that their greed will be their undoing. 

 

Let them keep pushing and pushing.  The more onerous, expensive and obviously discriminatory they make the FOID process the easier it will be to nullify the entire rotten system. 

 

Seems like a poll tax...



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Posted 15 May 2019 - 08:54 PM

How much does it cost to apply for food stamps?

Hmmm? Must pay for a Constitutional Right but not free stuff from actual Taxpayers?

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Posted 15 May 2019 - 09:20 PM

Unlike some other proposed changes to the FOID, the ISP is all over this one. The interview with ISP Acting Director Brendan Kelly made it sound like this revamp is absolutely necessary.


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Posted 15 May 2019 - 10:34 PM

Is this even legal? How do they deny someone their rights when they've done nothing wrong?


They do all kinds of things illegal. We then have to bumble though the courts...
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Posted 15 May 2019 - 11:46 PM

 

Makes possession of firearms unlawful in the same house as a convicted felon.


^ this ***

Is this even legal? How do they deny someone their rights when they've done nothing wrong?

 

 

So much for due process, huh?  No way a respectable court denies an enumerated right of an individual based on association. that runs contrary to even the most basic diluted definiton of a right.  I really hope the Supreme Court comes out roaring in regards to the 2nd and the cases pending.


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Posted 15 May 2019 - 11:50 PM

Ahh well now I see , the exorbitant fees will completely fund bla bla and bla. Which we know will never happen ever in Illinois. So sick of these morons. Does you have to be an Illinois citizen to file witness slips ?

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Posted 16 May 2019 - 12:10 AM

... Does you have to be an Illinois citizen to file witness slips ?


As we saw with gun dealer licensing, apparently anyone with access to the Internet can file. Bloombergers from across the country were filing on that one. Maybe there's vetting before placing the slips in the official record (like comparing to registered voters), but there certainly wasn't on the day the slips were collected.
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Posted 16 May 2019 - 05:08 AM

Unlike some other proposed changes to the FOID, the ISP is all over this one. The interview with ISP Acting Director Brendan Kelly made it sound like this revamp is absolutely necessary.


I'd expect no less. He is a JB pancakes puppet.
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Posted 16 May 2019 - 05:50 AM

So they plan to raise how much money off of this scam? The fee’s and financial part of this is a distraction. There has to be something far worse in the bill.
~$161 for a FOID based on $50 + $65 for prints, multiplied by 1.4 million ( estimated based on number of FOID holders google search)
Is $161 Million if they forced everyone to change at the same time. This is a rounding error for Illinois budgets.
Maybe they get ~$100k to $250k a yearly based on this, the dollar amount is a distraction and what they want us to focus on?
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Posted 16 May 2019 - 06:19 AM

Just to point out, for those who may not have been following this for the past few months, the fingerprints are a one time requirement... so if you've already submitted prints for FOID/CCL in the past, you're good. Not that I approve, mind you... just informing.
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Posted 16 May 2019 - 06:24 AM

Ahh well now I see , the exorbitant fees will completely fund bla bla and bla. Which we know will never happen ever in Illinois. So sick of these morons. Does you have to be an Illinois citizen to file witness slips ?

No you do not.
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Posted 16 May 2019 - 06:31 AM

~$161 for a FOID based on $50 + $65 for prints, multiplied by 1.4 million ( estimated based on number of FOID holders google search)

Plus the cost of BGC currently around $35 but it is not specific about the ISP charge in bill.

Think the number of FOID holders is more like 2.3M.

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Posted 16 May 2019 - 06:38 AM

Unlike some other proposed changes to the FOID, the ISP is all over this one. The interview with ISP Acting Director Brendan Kelly made it sound like this revamp is absolutely necessary.


I'd expect no less. He is a JB pancakes puppet.
He commented about being understaffed, importance of enforcing law, etc. Yet they can't/won't fix/hire to get their current broken FOID/CCL process in compliance in spite of an apparent multi $M firearm services fund. The FOID may need to be fixed but this isn't it.

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