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#91 Ol'Coach

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Posted 15 February 2008 - 07:11 PM

For some strange reason, it isn't difficult for me to agree! :headbang1:

Now, go out and find 'em!

Got it done in 1.5, (Piatt and Moultrie, where Abolt did most of the work), didn't work in 1...Douglas.
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Posted 15 February 2008 - 07:31 PM

View PostOl, on Feb 15 2008, 07:11 PM, said:

For some strange reason, it isn't difficult for me to agree! :headbang1:

Now, go out and find 'em!

Got it done in 1.5, (Piatt and Moultrie, where Abolt did most of the work), didn't work in 1...Douglas.

Hey, Coach.  Far be it from me to belittle anything that you and many others have done.  In most of the counties up till now, the boards were very pro-gun and just had to be shown the Resolution and have it explained to them before they jumped at the chance to adopt it.  Now, we're into that second layer of counties that may take a little more convincing.  You've worked your butt off with Champaign, and eventually will get them, but what chance would a non-resident have with them??  I saw a little glimpse of that in Moultrie.  TPlane did a lot of work in Macon, if he'd been a non-resident, they'd have ignored him.  

Yea, they may be hard to find.  But I think a resident, proposing the res to Douglas in about May, will have a real good chance of getting it on the agenda and passed where you or I wouldn't stand a chance.  I know a few folks in Douglas, let me get in touch over the next few weeks and see if we can't get something going.

I just think the rest of the counties are going to require local action to get the res passed without a lot of hassle.

Just my musings.    Still wish you had been there to share Moultrie!

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Posted 15 February 2008 - 08:18 PM

Hey, Abolt, I agree with you...but when they ain't there, somebody's gotta at least try!  I tried, and was told, OK...but that got knocked down, for some reason.

I'm told the SA in Douglas is very anti-gun.  I'm just guessin' but I'd be willin' to make a bet that when the Res was run by his office, the red light went on!

Hey...you going to be in E'ham tomorrow?  I'm plannin' on bein' there 'bout 9 A.M. with gold flyers and a bunch of IGOLD T's to sell...be sure to bring $10.00!! :rolleyes:

Make that $20...the boy will probably want one, right?...how 'bout the wife...and his wife... :)
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Posted 15 February 2008 - 08:32 PM

View PostOl, on Feb 15 2008, 08:18 PM, said:

Hey, Abolt, I agree with you...but when they ain't there, somebody's gotta at least try!  I tried, and was told, OK...but that got knocked down, for some reason.

I'm told the SA in Douglas is very anti-gun.  I'm just guessin' but I'd be willin' to make a bet that when the Res was run by his office, the red light went on!

Hey...you going to be in E'ham tomorrow?  I'm plannin' on bein' there 'bout 9 A.M. with gold flyers and a bunch of IGOLD T's to sell...be sure to bring $10.00!! :rolleyes:

Make that $20...the boy will probably want one, right?...how 'bout the wife...and his wife... :)
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Yeah, we'll be there.  You got enough flyers for the Effingham route??  I was gonna run some off and bring them down.  Yep, GNHNTN will be with me, and I'll probably have $20 on me!!!  

We may have a little bit of an in to Douglas county.  I'll tell you about it tomorrow.

See you in the A.M.
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Posted 15 February 2008 - 08:57 PM

I printed the big flyer for all bus routes.  I'll do some of the Effingham route also.

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Posted 06 March 2008 - 10:30 PM

Any word from Dekalb, Kendall, or Lasalle counties yet?  I live in the corners of all three of these counties.  I work in Oswego and see that the Oswego Township has adopted the resolution but I was wondering if there was any word from the other three because I would like to help.  I do have some contacts with some local government types which might help.
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Posted 06 March 2008 - 10:40 PM

In finding contacts, I'm going to gun shops or retailers that sell ammo and try to generate interest.
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Posted 18 March 2008 - 02:07 PM

It appears that nobody has been working Kendall County.  So, I took it upon myself to put together a packet that contained the introduction letter, a color Pro 2A map and a copy of the resolution.  The packets were mailed yesterday to all 10 county board members.

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 02:11 PM

View PostMr_G, on Mar 18 2008, 03:07 PM, said:

It appears that nobody has been working Kendall County.  So, I took it upon myself to put together a packet that contained the introduction letter, a color Pro 2A map and a copy of the resolution.  The packets were mailed yesterday to all 10 county board members.

Good on you Mr G!!!!!~

Welcome to the board!!!  Let us know what you hear.  This can be a great place to find information and backing when you need it!!!  I'll bet you're not the only Kendall County citizen on this board!!!  We've found that it's much more effective when a resident of the county initiates the contacts.

Good Luck!!!  Keep us informed!!

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Are you a member of the ISRA?? If not, why not?? Join over 18,000 other Illinois gun owners in the fight for your rights!!!

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"..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.."
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Luke 11:21 - "When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed." NASB


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Posted 18 March 2008 - 04:59 PM

View PostMr_G, on Mar 18 2008, 03:07 PM, said:

It appears that nobody has been working Kendall County.  So, I took it upon myself to put together a packet that contained the introduction letter, a color Pro 2A map and a copy of the resolution.  The packets were mailed yesterday to all 10 county board members.
Welcome to the board and thanks for your efforts.  Anything I can do to help, phone calls, letters or faxes let me know.  Good luck. :whistle:

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 07:21 PM

Hello Mr. G!

Welcome to the site...we sure are happy to have yet another active member, ready to make a difference!

Good work.
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Posted 18 March 2008 - 10:22 PM

Welcome to the site that's rite, Mr. G! :blink:
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Posted 01 April 2008 - 03:40 PM

Mr. G has indeed been busy!

Kendall County Board consisting of 10 members will meet on April 10, 2008 at 4 pm to receive information on the Pro Second amerndment resolution.

They will meet to discuss and vote on proposal on April 15, 2008.\

Both meetings will be held at the Kendall County Building on Fox Street in Yorkville on the second floor.

I do believe that means Kendall County goes YELLOW!
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Posted 01 April 2008 - 05:00 PM

Will we be able to attend the meeting?

I work no too far away.



View PostMolly B., on Apr 1 2008, 04:40 PM, said:

Mr. G has indeed been busy!

Kendall County Board consisting of 10 members will meet on April 10, 2008 at 4 pm to receive information on the Pro Second amendment resolution.

They will meet to discuss and vote on proposal on April 15, 2008.\

Both meetings will be held at the Kendall County Building on Fox Street in Yorkville on the second floor.

I do believe that means Kendall County goes YELLOW!

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Posted 01 April 2008 - 07:55 PM

View PostBig Chris, on Apr 1 2008, 06:00 PM, said:

Will we be able to attend the meeting?
I work no too far away.
I believe they would appreciate all that can attend.

Molly B.
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Posted 03 April 2008 - 01:30 PM

Wow Molly, thanks for the info.  All I did was send a well put together package to each one of them and I haven't heard anything since.  I was getting ready to send a follow up letter explaining why this is indeed county business.  I live right down the street from the county building and will be in attendance on both days.  

It's a 100% Republican board with at least one avid hunter.  One member, Kay Hatcher is running for State Rep. and I think it would bode well for her to vote yes.  The fact that they acted so quickly on it is a good sign.  I will get as many people as I can there to show support.

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 02:07 PM

Good work.

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Posted 10 April 2008 - 11:09 AM

Post number 1 of this thread updated to reflect our recent and significant victories!
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Posted 10 April 2008 - 12:26 PM

GF...

Remove me from Douglas County.  The Douglas County Board chairman resented my effort since I am not a DC res.

Others have said they would work on it, but I'm not sure what's happenin' there at this point.
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Posted 11 April 2008 - 11:42 AM

Just had a call from a contact in Mercer Co who claimed the 2A Res would be voted on at a Co Board mtg next Thursday.
To confirm, I called the CC office, and was told that the Board does not meet until May 1, that the Res was not on the agenda. It was discussed at the April mtg, and info handed out for the members to study. The CC seemed to think it probably would be voted on at the next mtg.

This same contact told me they were now active in Knox County, and would begin work in Henderson Co.

A contact in McDonough Co is making contact with Board members there. The contact will probably soon be a visitor to this site.
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Posted 11 April 2008 - 12:27 PM

View PostMr_G, on Apr 3 2008, 02:30 PM, said:

Wow Molly, thanks for the info.  All I did was send a well put together package to each one of them and I haven't heard anything since.  I was getting ready to send a follow up letter explaining why this is indeed county business.  I live right down the street from the county building and will be in attendance on both days.  

It's a 100% Republican board with at least one avid hunter.  One member, Kay Hatcher is running for State Rep. and I think it would bode well for her to vote yes.  The fact that they acted so quickly on it is a good sign.  I will get as many people as I can there to show support.


I know Kay Hatcher back from when I had a real job and I contacted her about  the 2A Resolution.  Here is her response:

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If they can attack the 2nd amendment, they can attack any of them.  We'll do our best to make sure that doesn't happen.
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Sounds like she is on our side.  Her website for State Rep has an "ISSUES" section where she states her support for the Second Amendment.
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Posted 11 April 2008 - 12:46 PM

Can we agree to state which county is being discussed?  Kay Hatcher is from which county?
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Posted 11 April 2008 - 12:56 PM

View PostGarandFan, on Apr 11 2008, 01:46 PM, said:

Can we agree to state which county is being discussed?  Kay Hatcher is from which county?


Kay is on the Kendall County Board, district 1 - Yorkville.  
She is running for State rep - 50th District because the existing rep is retiring.  I think Kay was endorsed by the Tribune.
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Posted 11 April 2008 - 09:02 PM

McLean Co. legislative committee is meeting again on Thur April 24th...not sure of the time yet...1pm maybe to discuss the resolution.  They now want a copy of every resolution passed so far to look at what has been changed in some counties...sigh.

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Posted 11 April 2008 - 09:28 PM

View PostFederal Farmer, on Apr 11 2008, 10:02 PM, said:

McLean Co. legislative committee is meeting again on Thur April 24th...not sure of the time yet...1pm maybe to discuss the resolution.  They now want a copy of every resolution passed so far to look at what has been changed in some counties...sigh.

Are they aware that it is now 74 different resolutions???  Some folks are just legends in their own minds!  Big ducks in little bitty puddles!!  Good Luck!

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Posted 06 May 2008 - 01:57 PM

New Member here and would like to help with this issue in my county. (St. Clair)
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Posted 06 May 2008 - 02:40 PM

View PostFlea, on May 6 2008, 02:57 PM, said:

New Member here and would like to help with this issue in my county. (St. Clair)

Flea, great that you could join us.  Hopefully folks will chime in regarding what's been done, or tried, in St. Clair.  I suspect it might be a tough sell there....E. St. Louis has it's issues and those issues (similar to chicago) often translate into political sentiment against gun ownership.

First thing is to identify the county board members, and then, to see if there are any hunters, gun owners, police officers, etc. on there.  Unfortunately these days, your better bet would be to investigate those that call themselves Republicans.

Then once you make contact, you can use the resources listed in the first post of this thread.  Start out with less formal inquiries, then get more formal, including the contact letter, the maps, and (god forbid) the "why this IS county business" letter.

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Posted 07 May 2008 - 01:54 PM

Pro 2a resolution was on the front page of the Beacon News today, The paper serves the kane and kendall county areas. I will post a link if they also have the story on thier website.

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Posted 07 May 2008 - 05:29 PM

View Posthodgie, on May 7 2008, 02:54 PM, said:

Pro 2a resolution was on the front page of the Beacon News today, The paper serves the kane and kendall county areas. I will post a link if they also have the story on thier website.
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Posted 07 May 2008 - 05:33 PM

"Not that I'm against the Second Amendment," she said. "But I'm an anti-gun advocate so I would have a little bit of difficulty with this."

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