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#1 InterestedBystander

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 08:38 PM

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https://www.ilnews.o...1804ce74de.html

...Several gun dealers in Central and Southern Illinois are closing their businesses rather than pay what theyre saying is thousands of dollars in costs to comply with a law enacted last month.

When he signed the bill into law last month, Gov. J.B. Pritzker said the Gun Dealer Licensing Act was about stopping straw buyers.

The reason for it is to deter straw purchases so that we can prevent someone from buying a gun for someone else who is not legally allowed to own a gun, he said at the signing ceremony in Chicago.


For Jim Barnard, 69, couldnt see a way to afford the cost of compliance with the new law. After more than 4 decades of operation, the owner of Fishmans Sporting Goods in Girard had to make a tough decision.

Im just going to retire, I guess, he said. I hope that I can live off of what Ive saved over the years.

He made the decision to close his business in late January.

Mick Moore made the same decision for Walnut Creek Shooters Supply in Brownstown after seeing not only the cost of the license and the camera system. but also the uncertainty additional regulations and more fees.

Its just not worth it, he said. Ive fought it and fought it but Im just not up to the fight much longer...
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Posted 05 February 2019 - 08:45 PM

Time for them to become plaintiffs in second amendment civil rights violations.


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Posted 05 February 2019 - 08:49 PM

This is exactly what the intent of the law was, to drive dealers out of business so folks have no were to buy them



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Posted 05 February 2019 - 08:54 PM

American Businessmen :

"For Jim Barnard, 69, couldnt see a way to afford the cost of compliance with the new law. After more than 4 decades of operation, the owner of Fishmans Sporting Goods in Girard had to make a tough decision."

 

"Mick Moore made the same decision for Walnut Creek Shooters Supply in Brownstown after seeing not only the cost of the license and the camera system. but also the uncertainty additional regulations and more fees."

 

 

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 09:49 PM

Time for them to become plaintiffs in second amendment civil rights violations.


It's inevitable.

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 09:51 PM

Large companies that have multiple stores across the state are only required to pay the new annual fee for 27 locations, which would put the corporations at the $40,000 cap, the rest essentially amounting to what Vandermyde called a tax break.


So the big box stores - whose management teams are squishier and easier to manipulate - are kept around, and the small stores, whose owners tend to take a firmer stand, are pushed out of business.

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 10:18 PM

There are two in my area that I know of that are closing.

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 06:24 AM

 

 

When he signed the bill into law last month, Gov. J.B. Pritzker said the Gun Dealer Licensing Act was about stopping straw buyers.

 

That's BS.  If he wanted to stop straw buyers, he would have signed a bill that dealt with straw buyers, such as a minimum 20 year sentence for straw sellers/buyers.  That didn't happen.

His intention was to put gun shops out of business plain and simple. 


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Posted 06 February 2019 - 06:55 AM

 

 

 

When he signed the bill into law last month, Gov. J.B. Pritzker said the Gun Dealer Licensing Act was about stopping straw buyers.

 

That's BS.  If he wanted to stop straw buyers, he would have signed a bill that dealt with straw buyers, such as a minimum 20 year sentence for straw sellers/buyers.  That didn't happen.

His intention was to put gun shops out of business plain and simple. 

 

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 06:57 AM

My local small shop isn't sure what he's going to do yet, he still trying to figure this mess out as far as alarms and cameras and such.



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Posted 06 February 2019 - 07:18 AM

Local store in my neck of the woods has been there for 56 years. Said last week they most likely are closing shop.
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Posted 06 February 2019 - 10:30 AM

 
 
When he signed the bill into law last month, Gov. J.B. Pritzker said the Gun Dealer Licensing Act was about stopping straw buyers.

 
That's BS.  If he wanted to stop straw buyers, he would have signed a bill that dealt with straw buyers, such as a minimum 20 year sentence for straw sellers/buyers.  That didn't happen.

His intention was to put gun shops out of business plain and simple.

Dealers follow the law and they can't show one dealer who hasn't followed the law. They give straw purchasers probation.

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 11:07 AM

Lost my local transfer dealer. Found another one though.



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Posted 06 February 2019 - 11:43 AM

Large companies that have multiple stores across the state are only required to pay the new annual fee for 27 locations, which would put the corporations at the $40,000 cap, the rest essentially amounting to what Vandermyde called a tax break.

So the big box stores - whose management teams are squishier and easier to manipulate - are kept around, and the small stores, whose owners tend to take a firmer stand, are pushed out of business.

Pretty much. Big stores, I’m pretty sure will send a copy of the 4473 straight to the state. They are already automated with computers and do the background online.

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 12:56 PM

Local store in my neck of the woods has been there for 56 years. Said last week they most likely are closing shop.

 

That's a feature not a bug.



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Posted 06 February 2019 - 01:00 PM

if you know of stores or shops closing please forward their info to me
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Posted 06 February 2019 - 03:26 PM

This is Pritzker and the other gun-grabbers goals.  Their only purpose is to make it more expensive and more difficult to legally buy a firearm.  


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Posted 06 February 2019 - 03:50 PM

This is Pritzker and the other gun-grabbers goals.  Their only purpose is to make it more expensive and more difficult to legally buy a firearm.


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Posted 06 February 2019 - 09:49 PM

Does anybody know about two stores in Pinkneyville, Mann's and Hick's?


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Posted 07 February 2019 - 10:02 AM

 

Time for them to become plaintiffs in second amendment civil rights violations.


It's inevitable.

 

 

And I hope that we will step up and help donate to their legal funds when the time comes.



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Posted 08 February 2019 - 03:24 PM

Todd,
The Ridge Gun Shop - Herod Il will be closing his doors because of the gun dealer licensing act.
If you need the owner's name and contact info let me know... Tried to send to you in a PM but I guess your box is full.

 


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Posted 08 February 2019 - 04:24 PM

The guy I've deal with mostly, for the last 25 years (him and his Dad), I suspect will bail.  Not happy about it.


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Posted 08 February 2019 - 04:49 PM

Todd,
The Ridge Gun Shop - Herod Il will be closing his doors because of the gun dealer licensing act.
If you need the owner's name and contact info let me know... Tried to send to you in a PM but I guess your box is full.

 

 

Click on Todd's profile his email is there and then email him, from what I have read he doesn't do private messaging on here...


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Posted 08 February 2019 - 07:16 PM

 

Todd,
The Ridge Gun Shop - Herod Il will be closing his doors because of the gun dealer licensing act.
If you need the owner's name and contact info let me know... Tried to send to you in a PM but I guess your box is full.

 

 

Click on Todd's profile his email is there and then email him, from what I have read he doesn't do private messaging on here...

 

Ok - thanks my man!!


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Posted 08 February 2019 - 09:14 PM

if you know of stores or shops closing please forward their info to me


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Posted 09 February 2019 - 01:15 AM

I relayed this info about Todd wanting names of FFL's closing to a buddy of mine that is thinking of closing. He said he'd be contacting FFL-IL and asking for Todd.


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Posted 11 February 2019 - 01:21 PM

Well there is always the big box stores like Dick's!  :flowers:  :drool:  :devil:


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Posted 11 February 2019 - 01:40 PM

Well there is always the big box stores like Dick's!  :flowers:  :drool:  :devil:


Dick’s can go and........oh nevermind

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 06:00 PM

 

Well there is always the big box stores like Dick's!  :flowers:  :drool:  :devil:


Dick’s can go and........oh nevermind

 

I hear ya. Don't ever forget that the carve outs in this bill for big box stores like Dick's was what Springfield Armory and Rock River Arms wanted because with a smaller market they could keep their prices right where they could maximize revenue margins. If they had to sell to lots of little guys it would be a PITA for them and they would have to worry about all the different market channels under selling each other. 

 

Like TYM said they are either traitors or morons. Either way, they certainly do not deserve our business 


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Posted 11 February 2019 - 06:12 PM

I hear ya. Don't ever forget that the carve outs in this bill for big box stores like Dick's was what Springfield Armory and Rock River Arms wanted because with a smaller market they could keep their prices right where they could maximize revenue margins. If they had to sell to lots of little guys it would be a PITA for them and they would have to worry about all the different market channels under selling each other.


I'm still not buying that argument.

SA and RRA sell to lots of little guys in lots of states that will not be affected by Illinois law. None of that will change.




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