If you travel to states that have concealed carry you can apply for a Florida permit. You dont have to live in Florida they will accept applications from other states. If you are a veteran you can use you DD-214 as proof of training.
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Posted 04 May 2004 - 09:04 AM
You can also apply in Indiana. They practically hand one to you as long as you qualify, and there's no training required. You should check with the Indiana State Police to see what is needed for a non-resident permit.
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Posted 08 May 2004 - 07:11 PM
From what I can gather from Indiana Concealed web site, you must either have a business or are employed in Indiana to qualify for a CCW in that state. Also it is not legal in the city of Gary.
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I've got a non resident Florida CCW permit because 23 other states reconize it, the most that I know of. I figger I'll NEVER get an Illinois one. I'm not a defeatist, more of a realist. There are just too many liberals poliotocians in Illinoise and it's ony getting works.
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Posted 12 May 2004 - 12:29 PM
I sent my ap in today. I'll probably never get to use it, but here's why I did.
Whenever I mention legalizing concealed carry in Illinois to someone I get the "shocked there'll be shootouts in the streets" response. I usually counter that some form of concealed carry is already legal in 46 states and there are shall issue laws in 37 states. Now I can add that I, myself, can legally carry in 25 states and show my permit. Its shame that my own state government, to which I pay tax, does not trust me as much as the governments of 25 other states.
Whenever I mention legalizing concealed carry in Illinois to someone I get the "shocked there'll be shootouts in the streets" response. I usually counter that some form of concealed carry is already legal in 46 states and there are shall issue laws in 37 states. Now I can add that I, myself, can legally carry in 25 states and show my permit. Its shame that my own state government, to which I pay tax, does not trust me as much as the governments of 25 other states.
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Posted 12 May 2004 - 01:57 PM
Mike, good point, I think our battle will be against liberal polititions and people who haven't a clue. I have had my Florida permit about 8 months and am in the process of getting a Pennsylvania permit for myself and one for my wife. Penn.is not recognzed by as many states but it is a lot cheaper and is good in Indiana which we go to quite often. I mentioned the Penn. permit for my wife to a couple people at work and got the, WHAT ON EARTH DO YOU WANT TO CARRY A GUN FOR? Another said "you mean you get to carry it LOADED." I know a lot of people say that you shouldn't talk about having a CCW, but there are a lot of people who need educated and who else will educate them but people like us. I had to edit this because origonally I made it sound like my wife had made the "oh my God" comments. My wife is actually proud of me for doing everything I can to ensure our safety, yes she is great. Jim.
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WHAT ON EARTH DO YOU WANT TO CARRY A GUN FOR?
A good answer is: "Because my life and property are worth protecting". If a cop asks the questions (as one did when getting fingerprinted in Illinois for a Florida license), the answer becomes "Because my life and property are worth protecting, and I can't count on you to be around to protect me".
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Posted 12 July 2004 - 01:58 AM
Blaster, I'm a newby at this, but I have a related question perhaps you can answer. After hanging around this and other boards, it is obvious that most everyone thinks that an out-of-stater that gets a permit is treated the same as an in-stater. My question is, do we really know that?
For instance, I can see where Florida issues permits to an Illinois resident, to allow this person to carry while in the state of Florida. But how do we know that other states recognizing as valid a Florida permit for a Florida resident will extend that recognizion to an Illinois state resident with the permit?
I have an Indiana out-of-state permit, as I live in Illinois, but it is not at all clear that Michigan would recognize my right to carry there, based on my Indiana permit. As I read the laws, I son't see anything to comfort me. What makes people think this works?
For instance, I can see where Florida issues permits to an Illinois resident, to allow this person to carry while in the state of Florida. But how do we know that other states recognizing as valid a Florida permit for a Florida resident will extend that recognizion to an Illinois state resident with the permit?
I have an Indiana out-of-state permit, as I live in Illinois, but it is not at all clear that Michigan would recognize my right to carry there, based on my Indiana permit. As I read the laws, I son't see anything to comfort me. What makes people think this works?
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Posted 12 July 2004 - 10:03 AM
The best source for the answers to your questions is packing.org. They keep a great database of which states honor which permits. As an example, a non-res Florida permit is honored in 25 states, 24 plus FL. The answer to your second question, is also on packing.org. Michigan honors FL resident permit but not none resident permits.
Check there first.
Check there first.
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But how do we know that other states recognizing as valid a Florida permit for a Florida resident will extend that recognizion to an Illinois state resident with the permit?
I know what your thinking, just because you had to go to another state to get a permit because your state does not recognize your 2nd amendments rights, the permit you recieved from the other state is a second class permit and may not be recognized by another state. A permit issued by a state that have reciprocal agreements with other states is just like having your drivers licence recognized by that state. But you should allways check out the laws of the state you are going to, and make sure you are following the law. To find out more on this subject go to MissouriCarry.com go to forums and do a search on Florida permits.
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In a recent post someone (I'm sorry for not remembering who) asked about an ILL CCW law. CCRA has worked hard to draft a GOOD proposal for such a bill.
The draft is on the CCRA web page at:
http://www.gunssavel...ivities/SFA.htm
This draft has had much work done on it by several professionals including a former staffer of the ILLinois Referance Bureau. The staff of lawyers who actually write drafts of laws for the legislators. It is truely ready to go. It just needs a legislator to run with it and a bunch of people to push him (or her ) along.
Below is a Synopis of the bill. You will instantly see it would be administered by Dept of Prof. Regulation not the Politically Charged "STATE POLICE". Any Who remember the antics of former head Terry Gainer will appreciate this.---- TOM M
SYNOPSIS OF PROPOSED BILL
THE SAFE FAMILIES ACT
New Act Under 720 ILCS 5 / 24
Creates the Safe Families Act of 2000. Requires the Department of Professional Regulation to issue a permit to carry a firearm to a person at least 21 years of age who has been a resident of Illinois for at least four months past -- residency requirement exempted for victims of domestic violence -- who possess currently valid Illinois Firearm Owner's Identification Card, who applies for a handgun carrying permit, who pays $100 permit fee, and presents evidence of the successful completion of a minimum of a 10-hour firearms safety or training course certified by either the National Rifle Association or by the Department of the Professional Regulation, which shall include the standard police range qualification course of fire, within the preceding five years. Provides that a handgun carrying permit is valid for five years and authorizes a person to carry a handgun on or about one’s person or vehicle, throughout the State except in police stations, correctional facilities, stadiums, airports, taverns, courthouses, or other places where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by State or federal law or regulation. Prohibits a person convicted of a felony, or otherwise ineligible to possess a Firearms Owner’s Identification Card from obtaining a handgun carrying permit. Exemptions from training and fees: Honorably retired and former peace officers are exempted from the training and license fee provisions. Victims of domestic violence, individuals over 65 years of age, individuals whose income falls below federal poverty guidelines, are exempted from licensing fees. Handgun carrying licenses issued by other states that recognize Illinois’ licenses shall be considered valid in Illinois. Amends the Criminal Code of 1961. Exempts from unlawful use of weapons violations for carrying a firearm a person possessing a currently valid handgun carrying permit issued under the Safe Families Act of 2000.
Main requirements (as proposed):
ü Must be 21 years of age
ü Resident for four months
ü Possess a valid FOID card
ü $100 fee for a five-year card; $50 renewals
ü Successful completion of minimum of a 10-hour training course approved by NRA or Dept. of Professional Regulation, which shall include the standard police range qualification.
Former police officers possessing a valid F.O.I.D. card shall be exempt from the training and licensing provisions of this Act.
Victims of domestic violence, individuals over 65 years of age or individuals falling below federal poverty guidelines shall be exempt from the licensing fee.
The draft is on the CCRA web page at:
http://www.gunssavel...ivities/SFA.htm
This draft has had much work done on it by several professionals including a former staffer of the ILLinois Referance Bureau. The staff of lawyers who actually write drafts of laws for the legislators. It is truely ready to go. It just needs a legislator to run with it and a bunch of people to push him (or her ) along.
Below is a Synopis of the bill. You will instantly see it would be administered by Dept of Prof. Regulation not the Politically Charged "STATE POLICE". Any Who remember the antics of former head Terry Gainer will appreciate this.---- TOM M
SYNOPSIS OF PROPOSED BILL
THE SAFE FAMILIES ACT
New Act Under 720 ILCS 5 / 24
Creates the Safe Families Act of 2000. Requires the Department of Professional Regulation to issue a permit to carry a firearm to a person at least 21 years of age who has been a resident of Illinois for at least four months past -- residency requirement exempted for victims of domestic violence -- who possess currently valid Illinois Firearm Owner's Identification Card, who applies for a handgun carrying permit, who pays $100 permit fee, and presents evidence of the successful completion of a minimum of a 10-hour firearms safety or training course certified by either the National Rifle Association or by the Department of the Professional Regulation, which shall include the standard police range qualification course of fire, within the preceding five years. Provides that a handgun carrying permit is valid for five years and authorizes a person to carry a handgun on or about one’s person or vehicle, throughout the State except in police stations, correctional facilities, stadiums, airports, taverns, courthouses, or other places where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by State or federal law or regulation. Prohibits a person convicted of a felony, or otherwise ineligible to possess a Firearms Owner’s Identification Card from obtaining a handgun carrying permit. Exemptions from training and fees: Honorably retired and former peace officers are exempted from the training and license fee provisions. Victims of domestic violence, individuals over 65 years of age, individuals whose income falls below federal poverty guidelines, are exempted from licensing fees. Handgun carrying licenses issued by other states that recognize Illinois’ licenses shall be considered valid in Illinois. Amends the Criminal Code of 1961. Exempts from unlawful use of weapons violations for carrying a firearm a person possessing a currently valid handgun carrying permit issued under the Safe Families Act of 2000.
Main requirements (as proposed):
ü Must be 21 years of age
ü Resident for four months
ü Possess a valid FOID card
ü $100 fee for a five-year card; $50 renewals
ü Successful completion of minimum of a 10-hour training course approved by NRA or Dept. of Professional Regulation, which shall include the standard police range qualification.
Former police officers possessing a valid F.O.I.D. card shall be exempt from the training and licensing provisions of this Act.
Victims of domestic violence, individuals over 65 years of age or individuals falling below federal poverty guidelines shall be exempt from the licensing fee.
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Posted 14 July 2004 - 03:11 PM
Tom, I suspect it was my posting in another thread you were responding to...I appreciate the info. Based on the synopsis provided, the proposed law does indeed seem to push all the right buttons. I am particularly happy to see the "shall issue" and reciprocity provisions.
From a purely selfish point of view, I would like to see a provision similar to Florida's, which allows veterans to substitute in-service training for the firearms safety/live fire qualification course, but lack of such a provision is not a show-stopper and overall, this appears to be a law I can get behind. (And, yeah, I might just be a little bit rusty and could use some refresher training
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In still another thread, Don Gwinn has listed the parties he believes to be the major players in the RTC movement in Illinois...does anyone know if each has taken a position on this proposed legislation? Are all behind it, or are there competing versions and interests that may need to accommodated before we can present a truly united front?
From a purely selfish point of view, I would like to see a provision similar to Florida's, which allows veterans to substitute in-service training for the firearms safety/live fire qualification course, but lack of such a provision is not a show-stopper and overall, this appears to be a law I can get behind. (And, yeah, I might just be a little bit rusty and could use some refresher training
.)In still another thread, Don Gwinn has listed the parties he believes to be the major players in the RTC movement in Illinois...does anyone know if each has taken a position on this proposed legislation? Are all behind it, or are there competing versions and interests that may need to accommodated before we can present a truly united front?
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Sounds like a reasonable and workable draft. I like it.
But then, I'm a reasonable person and UNREASONABLE people [read; liberal democrats] will think this will cause the streets to run red with the blood of innocent victims just like it did when they passed similiar laws in 37 other states.
[said with toungue planted firmly in cheek]
But then, I'm a reasonable person and UNREASONABLE people [read; liberal democrats] will think this will cause the streets to run red with the blood of innocent victims just like it did when they passed similiar laws in 37 other states.
[said with toungue planted firmly in cheek]
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Also it is not legal in the city of Gary.
This is absolutely not true. The state of Indiana passed a preemption law, and even before the preemption law, the state supreme court ruled that Gary had to issue permits, and had to recognize other Indiana LTC's and that of any other state.
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I just checked on Packing.org if you have a Florida permit your legal in 29 states now.
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Ok, I think i'm misunderstanding all of this...I can get a concealed carry permit for say..Florida and now I can carry in IL?? That can't be right.
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You can be an Illinois resident and get a Florida permit. The Florida permit is good in about 29 states. Illinois does not have concealed carry so the Florida permit cant be used in Illinois.
The reason to get a Florida permit is so you can carry in other states that have concealed carry.
The reason to get a Florida permit is so you can carry in other states that have concealed carry.
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Posted 10 October 2004 - 10:23 PM
Thats what I thought, but wasn't sure. Thanks for clearing that up for me!!
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Those of you who have recently aquired a Florida CCW permit...Can you tell me what exactly the cost is?? I see a cost for finger printing, etc but nothing definitive as far as total cost. Also, where might I go to get printed? Local police, county sheriff or state police? I have an NRA pistol course ccertificate, current FOID, drivers license. Also have the Florida permit packet but info all looks like it pertains more to residents than non residents. What else do I need???? Thanks....mack
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The cost is $117. I would suggest reading the packet carefully and follow the instructions carefully. You can ask your local PD if they will do fingerprints. They may charge a small fee. If they wont do it for you just go to another untill you find one that will. Read the instructions on filling out the fingerprint card that has to be filled out correctly.
For the photo find a place that does passport photos. After you get your photo your SSN needs to be on the back of the photo ( in case it gets seperated).
If you have any other questions just post them here.
For the photo find a place that does passport photos. After you get your photo your SSN needs to be on the back of the photo ( in case it gets seperated).
If you have any other questions just post them here.
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Posted 26 March 2005 - 04:15 PM
I requested an application package today. I was curious if anyone here knows what they will accept as proof of compitency with a firearm? I have heard they will accept a hunter safety course certification, which would be cool. I've got a Bass Pro Shop 5 minutes from my house that gives them all the time.
I've been shooting for close to 20 years, I just don't have a pretty piece of paper that says so.
I've been shooting for close to 20 years, I just don't have a pretty piece of paper that says so.
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Certificate or card showing completion of a hunter education or safety course approved by Florida or similar agency of another state.
Military honorable discharge document or copy of DD-214
A notarized statement or document from a club, organization or certified instructor showing that the individual has completed a course or class or is an experienced competitor.
NRA training certificate.
Firearms instructors card or certificate
There is a couple of others but this will give you an idea on what you have to do.
Military honorable discharge document or copy of DD-214
A notarized statement or document from a club, organization or certified instructor showing that the individual has completed a course or class or is an experienced competitor.
NRA training certificate.
Firearms instructors card or certificate
There is a couple of others but this will give you an idea on what you have to do.
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Great! Thanks much for the info.
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Anyone know where I can get the required training for the Florida CCW permit? I have the packet, but I do not know where to obtain the required documentation.
I am in the Aurora/Bolingbrook/Naperville area.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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I am in the Aurora/Bolingbrook/Naperville area.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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You can take the Illinois hunter safety course or find a NRA instructor that offers training.
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Posted 14 April 2005 - 08:45 PM
Blaster, on Apr 14 2005, 09:21 PM, said:
You can take the Illinois hunter safety course or find a NRA instructor that offers training.
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I have not had any luck finding a NRA instructor in my area.
Where can I take the hunter safety course?
I have been shooting most of my life, and I have been a gun owner all of my adult life.
Where can I take the hunter safety course?
I have been shooting most of my life, and I have been a gun owner all of my adult life.
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Western Dupage county.
I just emailed an NRA Instructor that is doing a class in Hoffman Estates.
It is a combo Basic Pistol/Instructor's course, so maybe I can come out of this being able to teach the course myself....
Which would be nice.
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I just emailed an NRA Instructor that is doing a class in Hoffman Estates.
It is a combo Basic Pistol/Instructor's course, so maybe I can come out of this being able to teach the course myself....
Which would be nice.
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Not unless you complete and pass the NRA instructors course.....Good luck....
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