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#1 GP100Wii

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 06:36 AM

Hello -- curious, does a ccw replace a foid? If you were to buy ammo, could you just show ccw?

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 07:08 AM

Yes as of the recently passed clarity bill.

Keep the FOID at home!

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 07:28 AM

He's right, although some retailers haven't caught up with the provision in the law yet. The more we do it, the more educated retailers will be.
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Posted 19 October 2015 - 07:35 AM

Hello -- curious, does a ccw replace a foid? If you were to buy ammo, could you just show ccw?


Ccw card does not replace the foid. A foid is still required to get a ccw card and to possess firearms in general however we can now use the ccw card in place of the foid card for the purposes of buying guns and ammo.

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 08:17 AM

I've tried at Wallyworld and Gander and both dum dums said, "Uh, need your FOID."  The kid at Wallyworld I can somewhat understand, but Gander Mountain folks with their special training and knowledge should know better.

I did inform them so maybe they are on board now.

 


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Posted 19 October 2015 - 08:31 AM

Extra read here: http://illinoiscarry...showtopic=58699

Also two additional threads directly under that one.
All talking about the replacement of the FOID and if the CCL is valid during that time.
May I suggest reading all for to collect the most opinions!

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 08:36 AM

Maxon Shooter's Supply in Des Plaines still requires a FOID to use their firing range. I don't know why.



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Posted 19 October 2015 - 09:18 AM

 

Hello -- curious, does a ccw replace a foid? If you were to buy ammo, could you just show ccw?


Ccw card does not replace the foid. A foid is still required to get a ccw card and to possess firearms in general however we can now use the ccw card in place of the foid card for the purposes of buying guns and ammo.

 

You need to HAVE an active FOID to own or possess firearms in general, but you no longer need to have the FOID in your possession, so long as you have your CCW license in your possession.


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Posted 19 October 2015 - 10:47 AM

Does a ccw have your original foid number on it?

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 12:04 PM

Does a ccw have your original foid number on it?

 

My CCL simply has the digit 1 in front of my FOID#


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Posted 19 October 2015 - 02:08 PM

Does a ccw have your original foid number on it?

 Mine is the exact same number. I got my CCL over the summer and a letter stating that I'd be getting a new FOID as well (which arrived the very next day). The numbers on both cards match. The card appearance is nearly identical as well...except the FOID has a blue border at the top and the CCL has a yellow border. Also, my mugshot is on opposite sides on either card....left or right.

 

My brother also had gotten is CCL last year...but he did not get a new FOID and his numbers do not match.



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Posted 19 October 2015 - 05:33 PM

You can use your CCL at Farm & Fleet they are up on the laws.

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 06:16 PM

everyone should call and complain at these stores corporate head quarters if they said no.



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Posted 20 October 2015 - 08:34 AM

Was at the Farm & Fleet in Montgomery last week.  They have signs posted on the ammo counter at the back of the store explicitly stating that you need a "FOID or FCCL" to purchase ammo.  Even though I had my FOID with me, I grabbed 3 boxes of 5.56 and took them to the register and offered my FCCL as an ID.  The gal running the cash register was a trainee on her first day of the job, and her trainer took my FCCL told the trainee that it was good to go, and all was right with the world.

 

I know that there are those here in the forum that would rather use their FOID to buy ammo as a security measure (and I can understand their point).  My own opinion is that the more we can subtly reinforce the fact that we who legally carry concealed are just normal folks, the better off I think we'll be in the long run.  So, by being a clean-cut, polite person and presenting my FCCL, hopefully I made an impression on those two employees.

 

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 11:13 AM

Agree



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Posted 20 October 2015 - 01:16 PM



Was at the Farm & Fleet in Montgomery last week.  They have signs posted on the ammo counter at the back of the store explicitly stating that you need a "FOID or FCCL" to purchase ammo.  Even though I had my FOID with me, I grabbed 3 boxes of 5.56 and took them to the register and offered my FCCL as an ID.  The gal running the cash register was a trainee on her first day of the job, and her trainer took my FCCL told the trainee that it was good to go, and all was right with the world.

 

I know that there are those here in the forum that would rather use their FOID to buy ammo as a security measure (and I can understand their point).  My own opinion is that the more we can subtly reinforce the fact that we who legally carry concealed are just normal folks, the better off I think we'll be in the long run.  So, by being a clean-cut, polite person and presenting my FCCL, hopefully I made an impression on those two employees.

 

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 02:56 PM

:) :)

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 02:03 PM

I bought ammo at Dick's Sporting Goods with my CCL, no problem. The clerk barely looked at it. And with my current facial hair I do not really look like the Drivers License photo that is on the CCL but it was accepted without question. 


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Posted 21 October 2015 - 07:34 PM

Was at the Farm & Fleet in Montgomery last week.  They have signs posted on the ammo counter at the back of the store explicitly stating that you need a "FOID or FCCL" to purchase ammo.  Even though I had my FOID with me, I grabbed 3 boxes of 5.56 and took them to the register and offered my FCCL as an ID.  The gal running the cash register was a trainee on her first day of the job, and her trainer took my FCCL told the trainee that it was good to go, and all was right with the world.
 
I know that there are those here in the forum that would rather use their FOID to buy ammo as a security measure (and I can understand their point).  My own opinion is that the more we can subtly reinforce the fact that we who legally carry concealed are just normal folks, the better off I think we'll be in the long run.  So, by being a clean-cut, polite person and presenting my FCCL, hopefully I made an impression on those two employees.
 
Bri


:) :)


Yep. That's the picture on my FCCL alright.

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 07:42 PM

I went to Gander in Peoria about a month ago and intentionally left my FOID in the car and only brought my CCL in.  I demoed a couple of handguns (not live fire obviously), and bought some .22 ammo.  Both times I showed my CCL only and never had to go back out to the car to get the FOID.

 

I've gotten to the point where I carry my FOID in a second small (for women) wallet in my range bag when I hit the range.  I leave my CCL in my main wallet (which is one of those big continental wallets)...

 

Also had an FFL transfer at a local pawnshop.  Both times they didn't insist on seeing my FOID over my CCL...



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Posted 23 October 2015 - 09:08 AM

I look forward to making my wallet one card lighter. :)  I've bought ammo so far once with my FCCL @ WalMart; no problems.  Hopefully in another few months, the rest of the stores which were confused will be on track and accept the FCCL.


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Posted 23 October 2015 - 10:31 AM

I bought a pistol with my CCL a couple of months ago (doesn't have same number as FOID). No problems.

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Posted 25 October 2015 - 01:40 PM

Me. too, Marie!  I just bought a pistol at Presley's in Bartonville.   The owner is a friend and said they were up on the new law ... BUT, he said, they have received NO OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION from the state as of yesterday.

 

That could explain why some places aren't up on the law ... but once again demonstrated how broke our Illinois state government is ... pass a law but not be able to mail it out to the gun and ammo dealers in the state.


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Posted 27 October 2015 - 10:06 AM

 

That could explain why some places aren't up on the law ... but once again demonstrated how broke our Illinois state government is ... pass a law but not be able to mail it out to the gun and ammo dealers in the state.

 

I'd actually have to disagree on this.  It is each individual (and business)'s responsibility to know about changes to the law.  It would be logistically infeasible for the state to actively notify all interested parties to each change in a law.


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