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#1 Molly B.

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 06:44 PM

IllinoisCarry is pleased to be a plaintiff in this lawsuit filed on behalf of several of our members.

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 06:48 PM

Great news !


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Posted 22 October 2014 - 06:51 PM

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 06:52 PM

An outstanding effort.



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Posted 22 October 2014 - 06:54 PM

Good! A favorable outcome will impact me greatly!



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Posted 22 October 2014 - 06:55 PM

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 07:20 PM

Awesome!
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Posted 22 October 2014 - 07:31 PM

A big thanks to all the plaintiffs in giving their time to pursue such an endeavor. A lawsuit is no small task. Thanks all.

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 07:34 PM

Nice! Good job!

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 07:41 PM

Too bad we will all be in wheelchairs before its ruled on.

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 07:48 PM

Excellent!


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Posted 22 October 2014 - 07:47 PM

Anyone else having trouble with the PDF?  Seems corrupted or something.


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Posted 22 October 2014 - 07:59 PM

You make me feel...you make me feel...you make me feel like a natural person! (Sorry, this is where a musician's mind can go when reading "a natural person" several times!)

I find this an outstanding suit and hope it it resolved in the favor of the plaintiffs.


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Posted 22 October 2014 - 07:59 PM

Anyone else having trouble with the PDF?  Seems corrupted or something.

Loaded right up for me.


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Posted 22 October 2014 - 08:01 PM

Nice


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Posted 22 October 2014 - 08:02 PM

Anyone else having trouble with the PDF?  Seems corrupted or something.

Nope - opened up for me...

 

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 08:05 PM

Thanks Molly, for all you do.


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Posted 22 October 2014 - 08:09 PM

Thanks Molly, for all you do.

 

You are quite welcome!  We must keep moving forward and winning new ground!


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Posted 22 October 2014 - 08:14 PM

Put opened just fine on my phone.

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 08:15 PM


Thanks Molly, for all you do.


 
You are quite welcome!  We must keep moving forward and winning new ground!


Yep--I have no idea where you find the energy to keep up this demanding pace. THANK YOU!
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Posted 22 October 2014 - 08:16 PM

Had to switch to IE11 after downloading it 3 times in my usual browser (Chrome).  Each time the file was a different size.


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Posted 22 October 2014 - 08:29 PM

Bravo!

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 08:33 PM

Had to switch to IE11 after downloading it 3 times in my usual browser (Chrome).  Each time the file was a different size.

Dang FF - ditch the Chrome. Maybe we need to get you a Mac!! Christmas is coming...


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Posted 22 October 2014 - 09:17 PM

Great news!!



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Posted 22 October 2014 - 09:26 PM

Great! Thank you again for another great effort.
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Posted 22 October 2014 - 09:27 PM

Awesome. Glad it is finally in the works!

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 09:56 PM

You make me feel...you make me feel...you make me feel like a natural person! (Sorry, this is where a musician's mind can go when reading "a natural person" several times!)

I find this an outstanding suit and hope it it resolved in the favor of the plaintiffs.

I will not be until the RIDICULOUS $300.00 price tag is reduced . That in itself is well placed road block and burden  in bold flashing neon lights saying we do not want anyone concealed carrying especially Non Residents

But it is a start and a good one

Thanks MollyB and Federal Farmer Good Job



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Posted 22 October 2014 - 10:12 PM

I will not be until the RIDICULOUS $300.00 price tag is reduced . That in itself is well placed road block and burden  in bold flashing neon lights saying we do not want anyone concealed carrying especially Non Residents

But it is a start and a good one

Thanks MollyB and Federal Farmer Good Job

I was a bit disappointed that the suit didn't include the cost discrimination issue.

 

Also a bit curious about the emphasis on the non-residents all having carry permits from their states of residence.  I don't see how it's relevant to Illinois issuing an Illinois license for carry in Illinois.


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Posted 22 October 2014 - 11:17 PM

The price difference, imo, is very difficult to argue considering almost every state with a nonresident permit or license charges more. For example, Virginia also charges nonresidents double what they charge residents. Imo, that's not a winnable argument. Thank you to everybody involved for this. I know I've been a major pain in the arse over this (and that's likely why I wasn't named in the suit). I'm sorry.

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 11:17 PM

 

You make me feel...you make me feel...you make me feel like a natural person! (Sorry, this is where a musician's mind can go when reading "a natural person" several times!)

I find this an outstanding suit and hope it it resolved in the favor of the plaintiffs.

I will not be until the RIDICULOUS $300.00 price tag is reduced . That in itself is well placed road block and burden  in bold flashing neon lights saying we do not want anyone concealed carrying especially Non Residents

But it is a start and a good one

Thanks MollyB and Federal Farmer Good Job

 

 

One thing at a time.    Learn from the Kwong v. Bloomberg case.   The 2nd Circuit ruled that $455 for a 3 year home possession permit was perfectly constitutional, because the plaintiffs supposedly did not prove how it effected them.

You best plaintiff is someone on a fixed income on SSDI with a physically disability where $300 would basically cost them medicine for a month....






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