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Ashdump, on Nov 13 2007, 06:36 PM, said:
Vermilion goes green!!!!!
22 yeah, 1 no, 1 no vote, 3 absent
22 yeah, 1 no, 1 no vote, 3 absent
Outstanding.
Great job, everyone who was involved.
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Posted 13 November 2007 - 06:37 PM
Outstanding.
Great job, everyone who was involved.
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Posted 13 November 2007 - 06:59 PM
One board member stood up to comment during discussion and stated that he did not want mayor daley pushing our county around and that IL. should have CC!!!!! 
(P.S. a democrat, no less!!!!)
(P.S. a democrat, no less!!!!)
"Freedom may have caused apathy, but apathy will never cause freedom" -- Ashdump, 2008
"Though they plot evil against you and devise wicked schemes, they cannot succeed; for you will make them turn their backs when you aim at them with drawn bow." -- Book of Psalms, Ch. 21 Vs. 11 & 12
"Find out just what the people will submit to and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress."
— Frederick Douglass, civil rights activist, Aug. 4, 1857
"Though they plot evil against you and devise wicked schemes, they cannot succeed; for you will make them turn their backs when you aim at them with drawn bow." -- Book of Psalms, Ch. 21 Vs. 11 & 12
"Find out just what the people will submit to and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress."
— Frederick Douglass, civil rights activist, Aug. 4, 1857
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Posted 13 November 2007 - 08:37 PM
Ashdump, on Nov 13 2007, 06:59 PM, said:
One board member stood up to comment during discussion and stated that he did not want mayor daley pushing our county around and that IL. should have CC!!!!!
(P.S. a democrat, no less!!!!)
(P.S. a democrat, no less!!!!)
"It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." --Samuel Adams
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Posted 13 November 2007 - 09:19 PM
Spectacular, people! This is great news - very encouraging and motivating!
Congratulations!
Congratulations!
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Posted 13 November 2007 - 09:35 PM
Molly B., on Nov 12 2007, 10:24 PM, said:
GarandFan, on Nov 12 2007, 08:48 PM, said:
FORD!!!!
Vote = 11/zip, in favor!
County Sheriff gave the supporting speech!
Vote = 11/zip, in favor!
County Sheriff gave the supporting speech!
Can we get a copy of that speech?
Molly B.
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Posted 13 November 2007 - 10:17 PM
Anyone know what happened at the Grundy Co. meeting this evening? I had to work.
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Posted 13 November 2007 - 10:37 PM
Way to go, Ash and SCT!!!
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58!
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Posted 14 November 2007 - 09:50 AM
QUOTE(Ashdump @ Nov 13 2007, 06:59 PM)
One board member stood up to comment during discussion and stated that he did not want mayor daley pushing our county around and that IL. should have CC!!!!!
(P.S. a democrat, no less!!!!)
So who was this board member? I will try to contact him and do a little talking about concealed carry in Illinois and mabye help educate him about what is available in other states, non-resident CCW. Also just for general information did you catch who voted NO and Not Voting?
This is so great!!! I remember when I first started talking about this to people all I heard was "it will never pass in this county." I don't feel that I did that much, I just tried to make people aware of the resolution then found out it was on the agenda and now this vote.
There had to have been more people involved than we will ever know to have done this well, and I thank them with all my heart. Jim.
One board member stood up to comment during discussion and stated that he did not want mayor daley pushing our county around and that IL. should have CC!!!!!
(P.S. a democrat, no less!!!!)
So who was this board member? I will try to contact him and do a little talking about concealed carry in Illinois and mabye help educate him about what is available in other states, non-resident CCW. Also just for general information did you catch who voted NO and Not Voting?
This is so great!!! I remember when I first started talking about this to people all I heard was "it will never pass in this county." I don't feel that I did that much, I just tried to make people aware of the resolution then found out it was on the agenda and now this vote.
There had to have been more people involved than we will ever know to have done this well, and I thank them with all my heart. Jim.
Kristofferson wrote it and Janis sang it "Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose."
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Posted 14 November 2007 - 10:58 AM
sctman800, on Nov 14 2007, 09:50 AM, said:
QUOTE(Ashdump @ Nov 13 2007, 06:59 PM)
One board member stood up to comment during discussion and stated that he did not want mayor daley pushing our county around and that IL. should have CC!!!!!
(P.S. a democrat, no less!!!!)
So who was this board member? I will try to contact him and do a little talking about concealed carry in Illinois and mabye help educate him about what is available in other states, non-resident CCW. Also just for general information did you catch who voted NO and Not Voting?
This is so great!!! I remember when I first started talking about this to people all I heard was "it will never pass in this county." I don't feel that I did that much, I just tried to make people aware of the resolution then found out it was on the agenda and now this vote.
There had to have been more people involved than we will ever know to have done this well, and I thank them with all my heart. Jim.
One board member stood up to comment during discussion and stated that he did not want mayor daley pushing our county around and that IL. should have CC!!!!!
(P.S. a democrat, no less!!!!)
So who was this board member? I will try to contact him and do a little talking about concealed carry in Illinois and mabye help educate him about what is available in other states, non-resident CCW. Also just for general information did you catch who voted NO and Not Voting?
This is so great!!! I remember when I first started talking about this to people all I heard was "it will never pass in this county." I don't feel that I did that much, I just tried to make people aware of the resolution then found out it was on the agenda and now this vote.
There had to have been more people involved than we will ever know to have done this well, and I thank them with all my heart. Jim.
Sctman, you were a huge contributer, make no mistake about that. Lonna Bertelli was a really big part of it too! Lots of other folks worked behind the scenes too.
As for the comment, I believe it was Corky Nightlinger. I am not sure who the "no" was.
"Freedom may have caused apathy, but apathy will never cause freedom" -- Ashdump, 2008
"Though they plot evil against you and devise wicked schemes, they cannot succeed; for you will make them turn their backs when you aim at them with drawn bow." -- Book of Psalms, Ch. 21 Vs. 11 & 12
"Find out just what the people will submit to and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress."
— Frederick Douglass, civil rights activist, Aug. 4, 1857
"Though they plot evil against you and devise wicked schemes, they cannot succeed; for you will make them turn their backs when you aim at them with drawn bow." -- Book of Psalms, Ch. 21 Vs. 11 & 12
"Find out just what the people will submit to and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress."
— Frederick Douglass, civil rights activist, Aug. 4, 1857
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Posted 14 November 2007 - 11:02 AM
Marion County Clerk says Marion is GREEN!
13-0, 2 absent!!!
Waiting to hear from the Grundy County office before the map gets edited!
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Waiting to hear from the Grundy County office before the map gets edited!
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Posted 14 November 2007 - 11:05 AM
Ol, on Nov 14 2007, 11:02 AM, said:
Marion County Clerk says Marion is GREEN!
13-0, 2 absent!!!
Waiting to hear from the Grundy County office before the map gets edited!
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Waiting to hear from the Grundy County office before the map gets edited!
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Woo-hoo!!!!!
"Freedom may have caused apathy, but apathy will never cause freedom" -- Ashdump, 2008
"Though they plot evil against you and devise wicked schemes, they cannot succeed; for you will make them turn their backs when you aim at them with drawn bow." -- Book of Psalms, Ch. 21 Vs. 11 & 12
"Find out just what the people will submit to and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress."
— Frederick Douglass, civil rights activist, Aug. 4, 1857
"Though they plot evil against you and devise wicked schemes, they cannot succeed; for you will make them turn their backs when you aim at them with drawn bow." -- Book of Psalms, Ch. 21 Vs. 11 & 12
"Find out just what the people will submit to and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress."
— Frederick Douglass, civil rights activist, Aug. 4, 1857
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Posted 14 November 2007 - 11:10 AM
Couldn't wait!
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Posted 14 November 2007 - 11:24 AM
Some positive mention in the C/U NG about Vermilion county (bottom of article) http://www.news-gaze...operty_tax_levy
Also heard some positive press on the local radio station this morning.
Also heard some positive press on the local radio station this morning.
"Freedom may have caused apathy, but apathy will never cause freedom" -- Ashdump, 2008
"Though they plot evil against you and devise wicked schemes, they cannot succeed; for you will make them turn their backs when you aim at them with drawn bow." -- Book of Psalms, Ch. 21 Vs. 11 & 12
"Find out just what the people will submit to and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress."
— Frederick Douglass, civil rights activist, Aug. 4, 1857
"Though they plot evil against you and devise wicked schemes, they cannot succeed; for you will make them turn their backs when you aim at them with drawn bow." -- Book of Psalms, Ch. 21 Vs. 11 & 12
"Find out just what the people will submit to and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress."
— Frederick Douglass, civil rights activist, Aug. 4, 1857
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Posted 14 November 2007 - 11:30 AM
Ashdump, on Nov 14 2007, 11:05 AM, said:
Ol, on Nov 14 2007, 11:02 AM, said:
Marion County Clerk says Marion is GREEN!
13-0, 2 absent!!!
Waiting to hear from the Grundy County office before the map gets edited!
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13-0, 2 absent!!!
Waiting to hear from the Grundy County office before the map gets edited!
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Woo-hoo!!!!!
Who would have thought that when this first started there would be this many counties before Thanksgiving.GREAT WORK. I am so glad to be a part of your family and glad that I can contribute to the cause. Thanks everyone for allowing me into your group and for all the kind words.
Mac
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The founding fathers of this nation were very clear about the meaning of the second amendment and the Supreme Court has backed them up.-----Repeatedly.
The fiercest criminal the the citizen has to fear is a Government that becomes over-bearing.
Any right not exercised is a forgotten right.
The founding fathers of this nation were very clear about the meaning of the second amendment and the Supreme Court has backed them up.-----Repeatedly.
The fiercest criminal the the citizen has to fear is a Government that becomes over-bearing.
Any right not exercised is a forgotten right.
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Posted 14 November 2007 - 11:31 AM
DW...OK!
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Posted 14 November 2007 - 11:33 AM
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"Freedom may have caused apathy, but apathy will never cause freedom" -- Ashdump, 2008
"Though they plot evil against you and devise wicked schemes, they cannot succeed; for you will make them turn their backs when you aim at them with drawn bow." -- Book of Psalms, Ch. 21 Vs. 11 & 12
"Find out just what the people will submit to and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress."
— Frederick Douglass, civil rights activist, Aug. 4, 1857
"Though they plot evil against you and devise wicked schemes, they cannot succeed; for you will make them turn their backs when you aim at them with drawn bow." -- Book of Psalms, Ch. 21 Vs. 11 & 12
"Find out just what the people will submit to and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress."
— Frederick Douglass, civil rights activist, Aug. 4, 1857
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Posted 14 November 2007 - 11:46 AM
Just listened to Bill Pickett and George Schildt, good one George. George is a good friend and my number one help with the Westville Sportsman Club Combat Pistol Shoot. Jim.
Kristofferson wrote it and Janis sang it "Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose."
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Posted 14 November 2007 - 01:02 PM
Grundy County: passed on November 13, 2007.
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Posted 14 November 2007 - 01:07 PM
SmershAgent, on Nov 14 2007, 01:02 PM, said:
Grundy County: passed on November 13, 2007.
GRUNDY county!!! Also shows as passed on the Second Amend Resolution site!
http://www.pro2areso...n.com/id11.html
Hot diggity damn! That is 60 counties, folks.....and Grundy is just outside the metro area, just southwest of Joliet, which for all practical purposes can be thought of as part of the greater Chicago metro area!
With Grundy, Livingston, Ford, and Iroquois, this thing is really starting to squeeeeze on up there toward Cook!
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Posted 14 November 2007 - 01:07 PM
Unanimous!
Board Secretary said they wanted to ..."get on the bandwagon!"
= 66% of our goal of 90, 60% of the counties in the state!
Board Secretary said they wanted to ..."get on the bandwagon!"
= 66% of our goal of 90, 60% of the counties in the state!
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Posted 14 November 2007 - 03:10 PM
Ol, on Nov 14 2007, 01:07 PM, said:
Unanimous!
Board Secretary said they wanted to ..."get on the bandwagon!"
Board Secretary said they wanted to ..."get on the bandwagon!"
Why would they want to do that? It ain't county business!
Give those cowards on the committee in Champaign hell again, Coach
They ought to be feeling really stupid or at the least out of touch with the rest of the area by now! We will get them though! A little oil around the edges might loosen those nuts, eh? 
"Freedom may have caused apathy, but apathy will never cause freedom" -- Ashdump, 2008
"Though they plot evil against you and devise wicked schemes, they cannot succeed; for you will make them turn their backs when you aim at them with drawn bow." -- Book of Psalms, Ch. 21 Vs. 11 & 12
"Find out just what the people will submit to and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress."
— Frederick Douglass, civil rights activist, Aug. 4, 1857
"Though they plot evil against you and devise wicked schemes, they cannot succeed; for you will make them turn their backs when you aim at them with drawn bow." -- Book of Psalms, Ch. 21 Vs. 11 & 12
"Find out just what the people will submit to and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress."
— Frederick Douglass, civil rights activist, Aug. 4, 1857
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Posted 14 November 2007 - 03:20 PM
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A little oil around the edges might loosen those nuts, eh?
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Posted 14 November 2007 - 04:43 PM
sctman800, on Nov 14 2007, 09:50 AM, said:
Also just for general information did you catch who voted NO and Not Voting?
This should answer those quetions http://www.commercia..._318114819.html
"Freedom may have caused apathy, but apathy will never cause freedom" -- Ashdump, 2008
"Though they plot evil against you and devise wicked schemes, they cannot succeed; for you will make them turn their backs when you aim at them with drawn bow." -- Book of Psalms, Ch. 21 Vs. 11 & 12
"Find out just what the people will submit to and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress."
— Frederick Douglass, civil rights activist, Aug. 4, 1857
"Though they plot evil against you and devise wicked schemes, they cannot succeed; for you will make them turn their backs when you aim at them with drawn bow." -- Book of Psalms, Ch. 21 Vs. 11 & 12
"Find out just what the people will submit to and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress."
— Frederick Douglass, civil rights activist, Aug. 4, 1857
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Posted 15 November 2007 - 04:30 PM
Bond goes yellow!!!
According to the Pro 2A site, it gets voted on 11/20!
According to the Pro 2A site, it gets voted on 11/20!
"Freedom may have caused apathy, but apathy will never cause freedom" -- Ashdump, 2008
"Though they plot evil against you and devise wicked schemes, they cannot succeed; for you will make them turn their backs when you aim at them with drawn bow." -- Book of Psalms, Ch. 21 Vs. 11 & 12
"Find out just what the people will submit to and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress."
— Frederick Douglass, civil rights activist, Aug. 4, 1857
"Though they plot evil against you and devise wicked schemes, they cannot succeed; for you will make them turn their backs when you aim at them with drawn bow." -- Book of Psalms, Ch. 21 Vs. 11 & 12
"Find out just what the people will submit to and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress."
— Frederick Douglass, civil rights activist, Aug. 4, 1857
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Posted 15 November 2007 - 06:07 PM
Ashdump, on Nov 15 2007, 04:30 PM, said:
Bond goes yellow!!!
According to the Pro 2A site, it gets voted on 11/20!
According to the Pro 2A site, it gets voted on 11/20!
Very nice; the noose is really starting to tighten around the two St. Louis border counties.
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Wow!
Hey...is Jackson yellow, or not?
Hey...is Jackson yellow, or not?
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Ol, on Nov 15 2007, 07:44 PM, said:
Shows yellow on the Pro 2A site!!
Are you a member of the ISRA?? If not, why not?? Join over 18,000 other Illinois gun owners in the fight for your rights!!!
The Roman Empire fell due to a large, corrupt government, overspending, an overextended military, insecure borders, and the illegal immigration of Goths, barbarians (anyone who was not educated), and religious fanatics. Sound familiar?
"..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.."
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Posted 15 November 2007 - 08:21 PM
Damn that map is really starting to look impressive!!!
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Posted 15 November 2007 - 08:37 PM
I showed the map to my dad last night since he does not get on the computer, he could not beleive that we "only" had 60 counties becasue the map was so green. SO he counted how many we have LEFT.
We are doing pretty good when the best way to tell is you only have to count how many are left
good work all around everyone
We are doing pretty good when the best way to tell is you only have to count how many are left
good work all around everyone
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Islamofascism didn't kill 50,000,000 people.....but Roe v Wade did.......
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Yeah, impressive! But look what we gotta get done!
We're a long way from home! Push....Push....push....Push!
Like Churchill said, "Never, never, never give up!
We're a long way from home! Push....Push....push....Push!
Like Churchill said, "Never, never, never give up!
"He who rides a tiger is afraid to dismount."
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