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#1 MJB

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 08:21 AM

Hello all. My membership just got validated and this is my first post here. I have a PERC card (non-firearm) that I was required to get fingerprinted for. I've also been fingerprinted to get DHS approval to work as a contractor on a GSA project. Will I have to be fingerprinted again for IL CCW? Thanks, Mike

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 08:22 AM

Most likely, you will have to file fingerprint cards with you CCL application. They will probably be included in your application. Someone will be along shortly with more info. Welcome to Illinois Carry!

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 08:25 AM

Your not "required" to. It just gives the ISP an extra 30 days to issue the permit. I am in the same boat with you though, I have been printed several times, including twice for my SF-86 investigation. (they lost the first application). So really getting printed again is no big deal, I just have an issue with the fact that my fingerprint technician can't do it since he's not a LEO.

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 08:41 AM

Getzapped is RIGHT...
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Posted 18 July 2013 - 08:45 AM

I cut & pasted the wrong handle, sorry. I meant to state that IL-Logical is correct...
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Posted 18 July 2013 - 10:12 AM

Thanks all. Can anyone tell me how to get my cursor to move down the screen so I don't have to word wrap my entire post? :ermm:

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 10:50 AM

state police claim for the NICS check, FBI requires prints that are not more than 30 days old
While a 9 mm or .40 caliber bullet may or may not expand, it is an undeniable fact that a .45 caliber bullet will never shrink.

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 11:15 AM

Because you know, your fingerprints change over time.
If you like your gun, you can keep it...... But only if you don't vote democrat come this fall.

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 11:17 AM

could, loose a finger, accident, accip spill, industrial job, burns
While a 9 mm or .40 caliber bullet may or may not expand, it is an undeniable fact that a .45 caliber bullet will never shrink.

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 11:29 AM

Thanks Todd. Now can someone tell me how to not have to post/reply on just one line? It's driving me nuts as I can't move my cursor down. TIA

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 11:32 AM

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If you like your gun, you can keep it...... But only if you don't vote democrat come this fall.

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 11:32 AM

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If you like your gun, you can keep it...... But only if you don't vote democrat come this fall.

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 11:33 AM

in the reply box,
click the upper left icon next to the eraser
toggle edit mode

its an issue with some browsers and the forum software.
btw,
welcome to the forum.

Edited by fugawee, 18 July 2013 - 11:34 AM.


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Posted 18 July 2013 - 11:38 AM

Thanks guys.

And thanks for the welcome.

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 12:46 PM

Mike,

Welcome to Illinois Carry.

There are a lot of knowledgeable, dedicated people here.

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 09:58 AM


Section 30. Contents of license application


(8) a full set of fingerprints submitted to the Department in electronic format, provided the Department may accept an application submitted without a set of fingerprints in which case the Department shall be granted

30 days in addition to the 90 days provided under

subsection (e) of Section 10 of this Act to issue or deny a


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Posted 19 July 2013 - 10:23 AM

Section 30. Contents of license application


(8) a full set of fingerprints submitted to the Department in electronic format, provided the Department may accept an application submitted without a set of fingerprints in which case the Department shall be granted

30 days in addition to the 90 days provided under

subsection (e) of Section 10 of this Act to issue or deny a


I think electronic format is a key phrase. If it's like other states.......not following instructions closely will lead to lots of delays. People may want to begin researching locations, because they aren't everywhere. Also, the fee's use to be anywhere from $15 to $30.

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 11:04 AM

$50-$60 now a days livescan vendors will charge students. It costs the livescan vendor $32 or $38 just for them the transmit to state and FBI per card.

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 07:40 PM

Mike,

Welcome to Illinois Carry.

There are a lot of knowledgeable, dedicated people here.


Welcome, Mike!

There are a LOT of knowledgeable, dedicated people here. LOU is pretty close to the top of that list.

I have lost count of the times I have been fingerprinted. There are a few times I have fingerprinted myself because I was more experienced than the LEO taking my prints. It's not a big deal. I would gladly pay a few extra dollars to a contractor to expedite my CCL application in Springfield.

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 07:59 PM

If you're willing to take an additional 30 day wait on top of the 90, you may not need any fingerprints.

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 03:54 PM

My company uses Accurate Biometrics.

No affiliation but you can find them here: http://www.accurateb...s.com/index.asp

My first electronic set was rejected and I had to get reprinted and I think it was $10 for the reprint.

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 10:06 AM

Does anyone know of a place in Madison/Jersey/Macoupin County area that does eletronic fingerprinting?

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 10:11 AM

Does anyone know of a place in Madison/Jersey/Macoupin County area that does eletronic fingerprinting?


Check with your hometown police department, they probably have the equipment and may even do it for free.

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 10:19 AM

Here is a list I bookmarked of PDs that have Livescan capabilities.

http://www2.illinois...ies11.08.10.pdf

Note: I don't know which, if any of these offer the service to the public.

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 10:43 AM

Here's a vendor list from ISP.

http://www.insurance...Information.pdf
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Posted 31 July 2013 - 05:27 AM

Does anyone know of a place in Madison/Jersey/Macoupin County area that does eletronic fingerprinting?


The St. Claire County Jail does it for free. Metro Shooting Range sends students in their CCW class there as the owner is an ex LEO with ties to the officers and it is free.

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 01:18 PM

Anyone want to comment on the use of the word "may" instead of the word "shall" ?


Section 30. Contents of license application


(8) a full set of fingerprints submitted to the Department in electronic format, provided the Department may accept an application submitted without a set of fingerprints in which case the Department shall be granted

30 days in addition to the 90 days provided under

subsection (e) of Section 10 of this Act to issue or deny a



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Posted 31 July 2013 - 05:24 PM

I take it to mean they will accept applications without prints, but they can kick back an application if they cannot confirm the applicant passes background check on name and DOB alone.

So, John Smith should probably just do prints. Someone with a more unique name though can probably pass on prints.


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Posted 31 July 2013 - 05:40 PM

Anyone want to comment on the use of the word "may" instead of the word "shall" ?


Section 30. Contents of license application


(8) a full set of fingerprints submitted to the Department in electronic format, provided the Department may accept an application submitted without a set of fingerprints in which case the Department shall be granted

30 days in addition to the 90 days provided under

subsection (e) of Section 10 of this Act to issue or deny a



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Posted 31 July 2013 - 05:49 PM

Anyone want to comment on the use of the word "may" instead of the word "shall" ?



Section 30. Contents of license application

(8) a full set of fingerprints submitted to the Department in electronic format, provided the Department may accept an application submitted without a set of fingerprints in which case the Department shall be granted

30 days in addition to the 90 days provided under

subsection (e) of Section 10 of this Act to issue or deny a


That language is permissive, not discretionary.

That is, it allows the ISP to accept applications with or without fingerprints. It doesn't give it the discretion to accept or reject applications based on the presence or absence of prints.
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