colt-45 Posted June 18, 2013 at 11:46 PM Posted June 18, 2013 at 11:46 PM SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (AP) - Illinois House Speaker Michael Madigan is urging Gov. Pat Quinn to sign legislation allowing the carrying of concealed guns. The Chicago Democrat said Tuesday that a veto would be ineffective. The concealed carry legislation the General Assembly approved last month passed by votes large enough to override a gubernatorial veto. Illinois is the last U.S. state to prohibit the public possession of concealed guns. A federal appeals court declared the ban unconstitutional in December. It ordered a remedy by June 9 - which it later extended to July 9. Quinn - also a Chicago Democrat - has not said what position he'll take on the bill but has expressed concerns for strong restrictions on firearms. Madigan predicted Quinn would act in a way that benefits his re-election campaign in 2014.
Davey Posted June 18, 2013 at 11:55 PM Posted June 18, 2013 at 11:55 PM Talk is cheap. Madigan doesn't want this bill to become law.
Jen-in-Normal Posted June 18, 2013 at 11:56 PM Posted June 18, 2013 at 11:56 PM Interesting. Has he talked to his daughter about this?
vezpa Posted June 18, 2013 at 11:57 PM Posted June 18, 2013 at 11:57 PM He doesn't want his daughter to take it to SCOTUS and he knows she is dumb enough to try. Daddy to the rescue again..
TyGuy Posted June 18, 2013 at 11:58 PM Posted June 18, 2013 at 11:58 PM Maybe he should tell his daughter to stop jerking us around then?
cm.stites Posted June 19, 2013 at 12:04 AM Posted June 19, 2013 at 12:04 AM Maybe he should tell his daughter to stop jerking us around then? i think his daughter was doing a CYA for election time.
ragsbo Posted June 19, 2013 at 12:09 AM Posted June 19, 2013 at 12:09 AM Talk is cheap, action is what counts. I wouldn't give you a plug nichol for the whole bunch!
gangrel Posted June 19, 2013 at 12:12 AM Posted June 19, 2013 at 12:12 AM Maybe he should tell his daughter to stop jerking us around then? i think his daughter was doing a CYA for election time. I'm not sure what her game is. I would think by getting extensions, she is doing the Quinn a favor. I would think it would be to her advantage to let Quinn swing in the breeze on this one. Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2
Xwing Posted June 19, 2013 at 12:13 AM Posted June 19, 2013 at 12:13 AM Soon we will see if he means it...
mobrules Posted June 19, 2013 at 12:16 AM Posted June 19, 2013 at 12:16 AM Does anyone know what the NRA's position on the extension is?
cm.stites Posted June 19, 2013 at 12:16 AM Posted June 19, 2013 at 12:16 AM Maybe he should tell his daughter to stop jerking us around then? i think his daughter was doing a CYA for election time. I'm not sure what her game is. I would think by getting extensions, she is doing the Quinn a favor. I would think it would be to her advantage to let Quinn swing in the breeze on this one. Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2her game is now her deadline extends past quinns so if he doesnt do anything about it she can just wash her hands of it.. when her deadline was before quinns he could wait and veto it and blame her for not appealing it to scotus.. its all about election time right now.
BobPistol Posted June 19, 2013 at 12:58 AM Posted June 19, 2013 at 12:58 AM I don't see him threatening Quinn by saying "sign it or you'll never see another dime from the Illinois Democrat party." Therefore, this is all political theater.
BillR Posted June 19, 2013 at 01:29 AM Posted June 19, 2013 at 01:29 AM What are we going to do for fun after the law is enacted ... no more soap opera to hang our every moment on LOL.
patriot1776 Posted June 19, 2013 at 01:32 AM Posted June 19, 2013 at 01:32 AM Maybe he should tell his daughter to stop jerking us around then? i think his daughter was doing a CYA for election time. We shall see . A close friend of mine has a wife that is a staunch democrat involved in collar county politics having held a political position for 3 terms and now elected to a village board . She says Lisa is nothing like her dad and has a mind of her own. That has led to many a long discussion and we have a case of bourbon bet on that one . Like i said we shall see , she also says Lisa has the election all locked up already . She made that statement at a Christmas party last December before her first drink. I swear i should have bet her 10 cases .
C0untZer0 Posted June 19, 2013 at 01:37 AM Posted June 19, 2013 at 01:37 AM Madigan predicted Quinn would act in a way that benefits his re-election campaign in 2014. Prophetic...
Lou Posted June 19, 2013 at 01:40 AM Posted June 19, 2013 at 01:40 AM What are we going to do for fun after the law is enacted ... no more soap opera to hang our every moment on LOL.We'll be starting threads on how many days past the 90 limit our application is.
Onytay Posted June 19, 2013 at 01:41 AM Posted June 19, 2013 at 01:41 AM What are we going to do for fun after the law is enacted ... no more soap opera to hang our every moment on LOL.We'll be starting threads on how many days past the 90 limit our application is. Sad but true!
TTIN Posted June 19, 2013 at 01:56 AM Posted June 19, 2013 at 01:56 AM Maybe he should tell his daughter to stop jerking us around then? i think his daughter was doing a CYA for election time. I'm not sure what her game is. I would think by getting extensions, she is doing the Quinn a favor. I would think it would be to her advantage to let Quinn swing in the breeze on this one. Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2Well I think her time table was up so she got an extension to put the ball back in quinn's court.
RockerXX Posted June 19, 2013 at 01:57 AM Posted June 19, 2013 at 01:57 AM He doesn't want his daughter to take it to SCOTUS and he knows she is dumb enough to try. Daddy to the rescue again.. That would be my guess, if the cliff happens blame will be on both Lisa and Quinn, they will point fingers endlessly and the voting public will take it at face value, and it won't swing many votes either way... The only way Lisa walks away now without controversy is for Quinn to sign the law leaving her off to hook for a SCOTUS appeal, if he doesn't sign the cliff happens and fingers will be pointing at everyone, her for not appealing, Quinn for not signing and the General Assembly for dragging their feet to the last day to pass anything... Now you can say that more blame is on him or her or them, but the fact is the general voting public is oblivious to most if not all of the facts and they will only take the smear campaign commercials at face value no matter how it's spun... Just like the General Assembly will do to all the people who voted 'pro gun' during the circus of amendments to the carry bill(s)...
miztic Posted June 19, 2013 at 01:58 AM Posted June 19, 2013 at 01:58 AM I thought Lisa was just following Quinns orders, doesn't she work for him?
RockerXX Posted June 19, 2013 at 02:01 AM Posted June 19, 2013 at 02:01 AM I thought Lisa was just following Quinns orders, doesn't she work for him? No, two different branches of the government, he can 'ask' her to do things but she is under no obligation to follow the governors request...
Patriots & Tyrants Posted June 19, 2013 at 02:02 AM Posted June 19, 2013 at 02:02 AM and I want two large chested, fiery haired ,Irish girls with freckled skin to serve me ribs and beer by the summers moonlight on a Caribbean beach, doesn't mean I am going to get it though. Still, would be nice on both accounts.
TyGuy Posted June 19, 2013 at 02:08 AM Posted June 19, 2013 at 02:08 AM and I want two large chested, fiery haired ,Irish girls with freckled skin to serve me ribs and beer by the summers moonlight on a Caribbean beach, doesn't mean I am going to get it though. Still, would be nice on both accounts.Leave my wife outta this! Gingers are great.
Capt_Destro Posted June 19, 2013 at 02:09 AM Posted June 19, 2013 at 02:09 AM and I want two large chested, fiery haired ,Irish girls with freckled skin to serve me ribs and beer by the summers moonlight on a Caribbean beach, doesn't mean I am going to get it though. Still, would be nice on both accounts.Leave my wife outta this! Gingers are great. Nice, my lady is safe because she is all of the above but has blond hair.
Federal Farmer Posted June 19, 2013 at 02:13 AM Posted June 19, 2013 at 02:13 AM She is representing her client.
TyGuy Posted June 19, 2013 at 02:15 AM Posted June 19, 2013 at 02:15 AM She is representing her client.How do you figure? Has she taken a survey to see if a majority of people in IL want CCW or not? Or do SAs just assume every law on the books are good or even constitutional?
miztic Posted June 19, 2013 at 02:20 AM Posted June 19, 2013 at 02:20 AM She is representing her client.How do you figure? Has she taken a survey to see if a majority of people in IL want CCW or not? Or do SAs just assume every law on the books are good or even constitutional?She works for the state govt, that's why she's running the defense when they get sued over 2a violations.
RoadyRunner Posted June 19, 2013 at 03:28 AM Posted June 19, 2013 at 03:28 AM SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (AP) - Illinois House Speaker Michael Madigan is urging Gov. Pat Quinn to sign legislation allowing the carrying of concealed guns. The Chicago Democrat said Tuesday that a veto would be ineffective. The concealed carry legislation the General Assembly approved last month passed by votes large enough to override a gubernatorial veto. Illinois is the last U.S. state to prohibit the public possession of concealed guns. I totally believe this - especially after a very informative (for me) chat with Todd on this very subject earlier this evening.
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