The Mighty Quinn......veto power?

[XJBluto]

Can Quinn veto if we get this through the House and Senate? Thought a super majority precluded this.?

[Bud]

A super majority means the veto can be over ruled

[XJBluto]

A super majority means the veto can be over ruled

Overruled by whom and how?

 

[snooter]

i predict 84 votes today..way more than enuff for override of a veto

[snooter]

Anyone care to explain? I have no idea about the veto process or overriding because I've never seen us get this close. Every year before this all I've heard is "can we uh ... Postponed consideration?"

 

stay tuned..may happen again today after 0900

[mauserme]

If the governor vetoes, the bill would go back to each body for an override vote. That would require the same super majority it took to pass the bill initially.

 

I'm not convinced he will veto. There's really no time for him to play games.

[XJBluto]

Thx Mauser..as always, a font of information.

[Graybeard]

If the governor vetoes, the bill would go back to each body for an override vote. That would require the same super majority it took to pass the bill initially.

 

I'm not convinced he will veto. There's really no time for him to play games.

 

I agree, he may not veto. If he vetos he looses votes all over the state that he cannot afford to loose because it is going to be a tough fight for him for re-election. If he doesn't veto it will go away, even though he would love to have no bill on the 9th so that he can try to push Ms. Madigan to file for cert. He needs to make her look bad if he is going to have a chance. I mostly worry about the Senate on this but then again maybe not. Other than Cullerton I am not seeing the opposition from Chicago and Cook County that I expected. Even though they are young, the fact that Chicago area Democrats like Thapedi and Martwick are with this is very telling. I really believe there is some horse trading behind the scenes, ie. same sex marriage, gambling in Chicago, Pension reform. Cullerton is much more interested in Pension reform, Emanuel is much more interested in gambling and I honestly don't know the status of same sex marriage. If there is a rift right now between Cullerton and Madigan its Pensions.

[Ricky Two Guns]

He's(Quinn) whining about the preemption what a crybaby.

[Livewire18]

I know in the house it would require 71 votes, but what is the magic number in the senate (36?) ?

[Dave D]

With the deadline of the 9th, why would he veto it?

 

Then everything could be on him...

[patriot1776]

Most of their money woes stem from the pension situation besides their spending ways which is a story unto itself. Pension reform is the keystone piece , how that falls will determine everything else . Keep your eyes on Mike , he is the ring master Sauron .

[handyflyer]

If the governor vetoes, the bill would go back to each body for an override vote. That would require the same super majority it took to pass the bill initially.

 

I'm not convinced he will veto. There's really no time for him to play games.

That is Super Majority essentially 4 times correct? Once in both houses to pass and once in both houses for the veto? Or is just one of the houses with super majority good enough for veto override?

[jester121]

He's going to use the amendatory veto and copy/paste in the same text he used in December to try for an Evil Black Rifle ban, magazine ban, semi auto ban, ammo restrictions, registry, confiscation, and whatever else he can dream up.

 

I'm assuming this won't fly, but he's too dim-witted not to try.

[mauserme]

If the governor vetoes, the bill would go back to each body for an override vote. That would require the same super majority it took to pass the bill initially.

 

I'm not convinced he will veto. There's really no time for him to play games.

That is Super Majority essentially 4 times correct? Once in both houses to pass and once in both houses for the veto? Or is just one of the houses with super majority good enough for veto override?

 

Both houses.

[mikew]

Anyone care to explain? I have no idea about the veto process or overriding because I've never seen us get this close. Every year before this all I've heard is "can we uh ... Postponed consideration?"

http://www.ilga.gov/commission/lis/98bill_law.pdf

 

http://www.state.il.us/court/kids/il_govt/Law_Making.asp

[TTIN]

If the governor vetoes, the bill would go back to each body for an override vote. That would require the same super majority it took to pass the bill initially.

 

I'm not convinced he will veto. There's really no time for him to play games.

ummmm maybe another delay tactic to extend this thing until the fall veto session,and then ANOTHER 180 days? Or would court carry kick in before that?

[BobPistol]

If he vetoes it, can Posner throw him in jail for contempt of court? That would be fun to watch.

[mauserme]

If the governor vetoes, the bill would go back to each body for an override vote. That would require the same super majority it took to pass the bill initially.

 

I'm not convinced he will veto. There's really no time for him to play games.

ummmm maybe another delay tactic to extend this thing until the fall veto session,and then ANOTHER 180 days? Or would court carry kick in before that?

 

 

The court essential told the state to pass a new law if they wish. I don't think the governor's stalling tactics would persuade them to delay the injunctions. And even though AG Madigan has the ability to ask for a stay if she did file for cert, I don't think that option was established for the governor's convenience.

[handyflyer]

Thank you Mauserme

[TyGuy]

We saw an override vote this week on the smart grid system.

 

Passing bill X with a super majority does NOT make it veto proof. Any bill can be vetoed. It then goes back to the originating house for an override vote. That vote requires a super majority to override the veto. The 2nd house must also pass it with a super majority after the veto. This might be just a practical issue, but there it is.

[Satatic]

I hope he vetos this bad no carry carry bill.

[borgranta]

If the governor vetoes, the bill would go back to each body for an override vote. That would require the same super majority it took to pass the bill initially.

 

I'm not convinced he will veto. There's really no time for him to play games.

I hope he leaves all carry bills to gather dust on his desk for 50 days after receiving them before vetoing them that way we will be over the cliff and it will prove that the fear of the cliff was unfounded.

[Sigma]

I hope he vetos this bad no carry carry bill.

it aint a carry bill its just a preemption bill

[borgranta]

He's going to use the amendatory veto and copy/paste in the same text he used in December to try for an Evil Black Rifle ban, magazine ban, semi auto ban, ammo restrictions, registry, confiscation, and whatever else he can dream up.

 

I'm assuming this won't fly, but he's too dim-witted not to try.

I see three possibilities if he does that. Both houses will have a massive vote count to override in both houses. (more likely) We end up getting enough votes in one or both of the houses to prevent it's passage with the AWB. (likely) We end up getting stuck with AWB and are forced to sue on the grounds that they are banning items in common use and win and as a resulting in the AWB among other questionable provisions of the law being struck down.(least likely)