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#1 mauserme

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Posted Yesterday, 09:32 PM

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Posted Yesterday, 09:32 PM

We ended last week with the unrealized threat of passage of additional gun control clothed in the guise of a may issue carry bill, styled as amendments to HB183.  Despite assurances to the contrary extremists in our state, including the majority of his fellow Senators, failed to embrace Mr. Raoul's effort.

This week brings the continuing threat posed by HB183 as well a ban on commonly owned magazines in the form of SB1002.  

The week also brings the hope that an as yet unnumbered bill will finally give closure to the injuctions soon to be ordered by the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals.




The House is scheduled for 2:00 PM today and the Senate for 12:00 Noon.
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#3 mauserme

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HB1157 Criminal Law-Tech

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House Sponsor:  Madigan
Status:  Second Reading/Motion to Recommit

Synopsis As Introduced

Amends the Criminal Code of 2012. Makes a technical change in a Section concerning exemptions from the statutes concerning unlawful use of weapons and aggravated unlawful use of a weapon.

House Amendment 1 - Davis, Will - Creates the Illninois Firearm Safety Act - Oppose

House Amendment 2 - Davis, Will - Registration - Oppose

House Amendment 3- Sims - Mental Health Evaluation - Oppose

House Amendment 4 - Zalewski - Locked Storage - Oppose

House Amendment 5 - Feigenholtz - Mental Health/Relatives and Acquaintances - Oppose

House Amendment 6 - Acevedo - Lost or Stolen - Oppose

House Amendment 7 - Currie - Mental Health/Increased Fees - Oppose

House Amendment 8 - Cassidy - Health Care Reporting Required - Oppose

House Amendment 10 - Mitchell, Christian - Creates a registry of transfers - Oppose





HB3217 Criminal Cd - Firearm Offenses

Neutral

House Sponsor:  Durkin, Reboletti, McSweeney, Cross, Cabello, Tracy, Sacia, Kosel, Pritchard, Brauer, DeLuca, Roth, Hatcher, Hays, Bellock, Pihos

Status:  Motion to Discharge

Synopsis As Introduced

Amends the Criminal Code of 2012. Enhances the penalties for certain violations of the statutes concerning unlawful use or possession of weapons by felons, aggravated unlawful use of a weapon, and unlawful possession of a firearm by a street gang member. Amends the Unified Code of Corrections. Provides that a prisoner serving a sentence for unlawful use or possession of a weapon by felons, aggravated discharge of a firearm, being an armed habitual criminal, defacing identification marks of firearms, unlawful possession of a firearm by a street gang member, or certain unlawful sale or delivery of firearms violations shall receive no more than 4.5 days of sentence credit for each month of his or her sentence of imprisonment. Effective immediately




Next Days Scheduled

House:   5/21/2013
Senate:  5/21/2013


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#4 mauserme

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Posted Yesterday, 09:33 PM

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HB183 Gun Safety and Responsibility Act

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House Sponsor:  Lang
Senate Sponsor:  Raoul
Status:  Third Reading

Senate Amendment 1

Senate Amendment 2

Senaye Amendment 3

Creates the Gun Safety and Responsibility Act





SB1002 Criminal Law Tech

Oppose (SA1 and SA2 (Magazine ban with confiscation pending))

Senate Sponsor:  Kotowski, Collins
Status:  Third Reading

Synopsis As Introduced

Amends the Criminal Code of 2012. Makes a technical change in a Section concerning the short title.





SB1003 Criminal Law Tech

Oppose (Senate Amendment 1 and Senate Amendment 2 Pending)

Senate Sponsor:  Muñoz, Lightford, Hastings, Delgado
Status:  Second Reading

SA1 to SB1003 Criminal Law Tech - Senate version of HB2265

SA2 to SB1003 Criminal Law Tech - Senate version of HB2265


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#5 TyGuy

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Posted Yesterday, 09:33 PM

Should be an interesting week.  I stole some of my mom's high blood pressure medication as a preventative.  I don't think she'll miss them.

Edited by TyGuy, Yesterday, 09:34 PM.

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Posted Yesterday, 09:43 PM

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Posted Yesterday, 09:43 PM

View PostTyGuy, on 19 May 2013 - 09:33 PM, said:

Should be an interesting week.  I stole some of my mom's high blood pressure medication as a preventative.  I don't think she'll miss them.

I've tried, but I just can't come up with a reasonable response to this that expresses my outrage and appreciation of the humor involved at the same time.
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Posted Yesterday, 10:02 PM

She doesn't use such medication.  I did empty her percocet though.  Bad hip be darned.
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Posted Yesterday, 10:03 PM

So I was listening to " on target radio" and rich Pearson said we could see something tomorrow(5/20) on CCW maybe 997 revised.  He said " maybe"
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Posted Yesterday, 10:16 PM

I actually ran into Brandon today at Scheel's in Springfield.  He told me he had just got out of a meeting working on a bill and that we should definitely see some movement on a bill this week.  I didn't ask to many questions he was in a hurry to get home and do some fishing.  Either way he was super nice guy to talk to and he just kept saying thanks for stopping him and talking to him (told him I was on Illinois Carry).  

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Posted Today, 04:36 AM

View PostTyGuy, on 19 May 2013 - 09:33 PM, said:

Should be an interesting week.  I stole some of my mom's high blood pressure medication as a preventative.  I don't think she'll miss them.

Lisinopril is almost a necessity if you're monitoring anything government related.
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Posted Today, 05:10 AM

97.1 in st louis has been on the situation in spfld this morning up to and including sandy hook bloomberg paid sponsors in spfld, mag ban, and the ccw issue..even the local newsprint has a huge article on the shenanigans in spfld (mag ban in bold print)..i am zero help to you guys today..so fight the good fight

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Posted Today, 05:19 AM

They are bringing in the Sandy Hook parents today to testify in favor of magazine bans in the Senate.

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Posted Today, 05:32 AM

Wow, another late day for the ILGA. Good to see they realize they are coming down to the wire. I know if I had a deadline at work, I come in extra early to make sure it gets finished. But then again, I would have been finished with this stuff 6 months ago. lol
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View PostMr. Fife, on 20 May 2013 - 05:19 AM, said:

They are bringing in the Sandy Hook parents today to testify in favor of magazine bans in the Senate.

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Im not even sure I can watch this today. I get so sick to my stomach every time I see the Anti's out parading these poor souls around like prize winning cattle. NOTHING will change if mags are limited! This is just another assault on our 2nd. I wish I could be down there in Springfield today to ask these Mad-again sheeple and the chicago machine exactly what they plan to accomplish. And when they give me some BS answer, I would ask them to show ONE piece of proof of where there planned laws made a difference. Also, ask them why nearly ALL Illinois Sheriffs support concealed carry and no mag ban....

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STOP PARADING THE NEWTON FAMILIES!
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Posted Today, 05:59 AM

View PostMr. Fife, on 20 May 2013 - 05:19 AM, said:

They are bringing in the Sandy Hook parents today to testify in favor of magazine bans in the Senate.

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Two points here ... and I'm not trying to be insensitive but I'm being honest.  

1. Just because your kid was killed doesn't instantly make you a firearms expert so why should we care what they have to say?

2. They're not from Illinois ... Why should anything they say have any bearing.  "My child was murdered in Newton therefor I think the law abiding citizens of a state where I don't even live and shouldn't have any influence on shouldn't be able to own high ballistic magazine clippings"

Seriously ... If reps and senators only wanna hear the opinions of people in their districts then why should anything these people say have any influence?  

Ill end with a summary ... They don't know anything about firearms and they aren't Illinois residents.  In before political theater.


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Posted Today, 06:14 AM

View Postjdbeier38, on 20 May 2013 - 05:59 AM, said:

View PostMr. Fife, on 20 May 2013 - 05:19 AM, said:

They are bringing in the Sandy Hook parents today to testify in favor of magazine bans in the Senate.

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Two points here ... and I'm not trying to be insensitive but I'm being honest.  

1. Just because your kid was killed doesn't instantly make you a firearms expert so why should we care what they have to say?

2. They're not from Illinois ... Why should anything they say have any bearing.  "My child was murdered in Newton therefor I think the law abiding citizens of a state where I don't even live and shouldn't have any influence on shouldn't be able to own high ballistic magazine clippings"

Seriously ... If reps and senators only wanna hear the opinions of people in their districts then why should anything these people say have any influence?  

Ill end with a summary ... They don't know anything about firearms and they aren't Illinois residents.  In before political theater.

I don't think that's insensitive in the least, it's the truth.

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Posted Today, 06:15 AM

View PostTyGuy, on 19 May 2013 - 10:02 PM, said:

She doesn't use such medication.  I did empty her percocet though.  Bad hip be darned.

Those anti-gun corrupt politicians are so evil, they have turned TyGuy into a prescription diverting junkie!

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Posted Today, 06:16 AM

I don't mind the families testifying.  I don't think they are being forced by anyone to do so, and our 1st Amendment guarantees their right to speak about our 2nd Amendment.  They are obviously passionate about their beliefs solely based on what happened to their children and family.  No different than others testifying against alcohol because a family member was killed by a DUI driver.  

But in the end, when you take out the sad emotional aspect, it should have no influence on what is being debated.  Theirs is an emotional point of view based on something terrible that happened to them.  But none of the bad CCW laws being introduced would have stopped what happened, and therefore their testimony, while sad, is irrelevant to the creation of a good CCW law that protects us and our families.

I think a lot of people are beginning to realize that the only case the anti's have is an emotional one because the facts simply don't support what they want to do.

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Posted Today, 06:27 AM

I agree that it is their 1st amendment right to speak, however their tragedy should not be PUSHED on people with a political agenda. If they want to come here and talk, and rally and everything else that is fine, I would even talk with them, but when it is pushed with a political, leftist extreme, agenda by a politician that has NOTHING to do with this state, it is nothing more than propaganda and it SICKENS me that our state is wasting TIME AND MONEY debating this garbage while we have more pressing issues to deal with. You know, the ones that actually have deadlines like pensions and concealed carry! Not magazine bans, lions meat, and smoking pot.
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Posted Today, 06:32 AM

View Postjfd287, on 19 May 2013 - 10:03 PM, said:

So I was listening to " on target radio" and rich Pearson said we could see something tomorrow(5/20) on CCW maybe 997 revised.  He said " maybe"
Don't pay attention to anything anyone says on a radio show like that.
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Posted Today, 06:33 AM

The parents of the Sandy Hook children are dealing with their grief in ways that seem most appropriate to them.  I can't imagine trying to come to terms with the losses they've suffered and don't know how I would react.  I do know if there is any blame to be placed it is on those who are exploiting the parents' vulnerability, not the parents themselves.

Let's move on.

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Posted Today, 06:34 AM

View Postjdbeier38, on 20 May 2013 - 05:59 AM, said:

View PostMr. Fife, on 20 May 2013 - 05:19 AM, said:

They are bringing in the Sandy Hook parents today to testify in favor of magazine bans in the Senate.

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Two points here ... and I'm not trying to be insensitive but I'm being honest.  

1. Just because your kid was killed doesn't instantly make you a firearms expert so why should we care what they have to say?

2. They're not from Illinois ... Why should anything they say have any bearing.  "My child was murdered in Newton therefor I think the law abiding citizens of a state where I don't even live and shouldn't have any influence on shouldn't be able to own high ballistic magazine clippings"

Seriously ... If reps and senators only wanna hear the opinions of people in their districts then why should anything these people say have any influence?  

Ill end with a summary ... They don't know anything about firearms and they aren't Illinois residents.  In before political theater.
I agree, what happened out there has absolutely nothing to do with ccw of lawful citizens. Their testifying is nothing but bleeding heart pandering to the moderates and it's all orchastrated by the machine. Get ready to see them platered all over the media tonight.
"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks"
-Thomas Jefferson-

Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
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Posted Today, 06:57 AM

Actually. from what I understand, they will be talking about only the, "High Capacity Magazine", ban that is now part of the Senate CCW bill.

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Posted Today, 07:12 AM

View Postfrankw438, on 19 May 2013 - 09:43 PM, said:

View PostTyGuy, on 19 May 2013 - 09:33 PM, said:

Should be an interesting week.  I stole some of my mom's high blood pressure medication as a preventative.  I don't think she'll miss them.

I've tried, but I just can't come up with a reasonable response to this that expresses my outrage and appreciation of the humor involved at the same time.


Exactly.

Edited by mobrules, Today, 07:16 AM.


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Posted Today, 07:30 AM

View PostDrylok, on 20 May 2013 - 06:34 AM, said:

View Postjdbeier38, on 20 May 2013 - 05:59 AM, said:

View PostMr. Fife, on 20 May 2013 - 05:19 AM, said:

They are bringing in the Sandy Hook parents today to testify in favor of magazine bans in the Senate.

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Two points here ... and I'm not trying to be insensitive but I'm being honest.  

1. Just because your kid was killed doesn't instantly make you a firearms expert so why should we care what they have to say?

2. They're not from Illinois ... Why should anything they say have any bearing.  "My child was murdered in Newton therefor I think the law abiding citizens of a state where I don't even live and shouldn't have any influence on shouldn't be able to own high ballistic magazine clippings"

Seriously ... If reps and senators only wanna hear the opinions of people in their districts then why should anything these people say have any influence?  

Ill end with a summary ... They don't know anything about firearms and they aren't Illinois residents.  In before political theater.
I agree, what happened out there has absolutely nothing to do with ccw of lawful citizens. Their testifying is nothing but bleeding heart pandering to the moderates and it's all orchastrated by the machine. Get ready to see them platered all over the media tonight.

To put it bluntly, if the other side were to put on a parade of gunshot victims that showed blood and fresh scars it would be considered extremely bad taste.  Might not even be allowed.  But these scars are hidden, emotional scars, the other side feels no remorse whatsoever about using the parents' pain to further their own selfish political agenda and they're allowed to get away with it.

I can't begin to imagine what it must be like to continually receive calls to testify from anti-gun politicians to please come and "rip the scab off" for them and relive the experience all over again.  If it were me, I'd have a few choice words for the next hack that dared to call and what he could do with the telephone.
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