Vaden Posted May 18, 2013 at 03:47 PM Posted May 18, 2013 at 03:47 PM I have been using Froglube religiously for all of my firearms (plus door hinges and anything else squeaky around the house) for over a year now and it has never let me down. I love the lubrication it provides, its cleaning and protection abilities and its non toxic properties but recently I have become dismayed with the product. While it smells great during application, I noticed my shop rags and now my firearms have a really bad odor. Since Froglube is an organic product, it seems so go rancid with age when applied to surfaces. After a few months, it smells akin to old hamburger grease and it quite unpleasant. Anyone else notice this?
Sub Hunter Posted May 18, 2013 at 03:57 PM Posted May 18, 2013 at 03:57 PM I haven't noticed it yet but then again I have only been using it a couple of months now. I am finding more uses for it around the house though. I think it's a great product.
boog Posted May 18, 2013 at 07:18 PM Posted May 18, 2013 at 07:18 PM Not here and I have been using it for at least 2 yearsBoog
bmyers Posted May 18, 2013 at 07:34 PM Posted May 18, 2013 at 07:34 PM NO I haven't noticed that, but YES it is a known problem with FrogLube. If you search a little on the net, you will find those that have had weapons grow mold. The company has revised the product to prevent it from becoming rancid according to different post I have read. I would suggest contacting them, my understanding is that issue has been resolved.
Kipp Jones Posted May 18, 2013 at 08:33 PM Posted May 18, 2013 at 08:33 PM I have been using Microlon Gun Juice and lube for years and it performs very well. I would avoid any organic products on firearms.
Mr. Fife Posted May 18, 2013 at 08:40 PM Posted May 18, 2013 at 08:40 PM I think if it was going to go bad, it would also go bad in the container. My containers have been sitting at room temperature and still smell minty fresh, no sign of any mold. Old hamburger wouldn't smell too good, but I would buy a bacon flavored version.
Vaden Posted May 18, 2013 at 10:04 PM Author Posted May 18, 2013 at 10:04 PM I think if it was going to go bad, it would also go bad in the container. My containers have been sitting at room temperature and still smell minty fresh, no sign of any mold. Old hamburger wouldn't smell too good, but I would buy a bacon flavored version. +1
Trevis Posted May 18, 2013 at 10:18 PM Posted May 18, 2013 at 10:18 PM Jeez, I'll just stick with Rem-oil. If I need grease, I'll use automotive grease.
panzermk2 Posted May 19, 2013 at 05:50 AM Posted May 19, 2013 at 05:50 AM All I use in the shop is Froglube. Used Break free for decades then over a year ago I treated one of our ammo testing FsN pistols with it. The other was kept with Break Free. Froglube cleans up so much better. Once you have throughly lubed up your gun with it. After shooting I run my gun under hot water. The excess Froglube warms up runs off taking all the gunk with it. The hot water though does not remove the base coat of it. Wipe of or blow dry with air and you will find a slick layer of it still one your weapon. Every pistol that leave our shop leaves with Froglube on it. PLUS it smells great.
patriot1776 Posted May 19, 2013 at 11:24 AM Posted May 19, 2013 at 11:24 AM Slip 2000 EWL . I leave the frogs in the creek.
wilson Posted May 19, 2013 at 05:26 PM Posted May 19, 2013 at 05:26 PM I've been using Ballistol now for a few years without any problems. Ballistol Frequently Asked QuestionsQ: Is the “Ballistol Lube” with the white label the same as the Ballistol “Sportsman’s Oil” with the green label. A: Yes. Same product, just different labels. But remember there are both aerosol and liquid versions. The aerosol comes out very thin — like water. The liquid is thick — like motor oil. Q: The liquid version is more economical by weight, but can I dilute it down? A: Yes, Ballistol liquid can be diluted with water, up to a 10:1 ratio and it will remain slick. We recommend about a 6:1 ratio for use as a general case cleaner and lubricant — but you should experiment yourself. Q: Will Ballistol get gummy over time, like other lubricants? A: Nope. Here’s an interesting story. In 1952, a bottle with Ballistol, with the cap only loosely attached, was found in the attic of a deceased German hunter. The purchase receipt was found proving that the Ballistol had sitting for over 30 years. Yet, it still had the consistency of freshly produced Ballistol. Q: If Ballistol oil can be diluted with water, does that mean it will promote corrosion? A: No. Ballistol emulsifies in water. The resulting product will displace H20 like WD40, and then leaves a thin, protective oil. Ballistol is also mildly alkaline (pH between 8.5 and 9.5), so it neutralizes mild acidic residues such as hand sweat or residues from black powder (which are acidic). Q: What’s Ballistol made from — it smells funny? A: Ballistol is made from medical grade mineral oil, alkaline salts of oleic acid, several alcohols, Benzyl Acetate and oil from vegetable seeds. The smell comes from medicinal Anethole oil, which is derived from the Anise plant. Ballistol is biodegradable and non-toxic.
flw Posted May 19, 2013 at 10:29 PM Posted May 19, 2013 at 10:29 PM I have never used frog lube but do have one question. After the first couple or few cleaning sessions, don't you ever remove any pre-existing lube? i.e. with something like Isp.alcohol ?
Sparks701 Posted May 19, 2013 at 10:49 PM Posted May 19, 2013 at 10:49 PM I've noticed the smell too. It's been about 2 months since I last lubed my bed side gun and it does smell. The old hamburger grease is a good comparison for the smell. I use it as a reminder to relube my guns to keep them smelling good. Doug
narcoden Posted May 20, 2013 at 01:22 AM Posted May 20, 2013 at 01:22 AM My bed side piece has been frog lubed for about a year... Still minty fresh. Not as minty as when you just clean it, but minty none the less.
Mr. Fife Posted May 20, 2013 at 01:32 AM Posted May 20, 2013 at 01:32 AM Maybe someone has been cutting the original formula to stretch their dollars further. How does your container of Froglube smell?
Pipedoc Posted May 21, 2013 at 01:56 AM Posted May 21, 2013 at 01:56 AM I never used frog lube. I just picked up some Lubriplate oil and grease. I was unhappy with the performance of other products and just spent quite a bit of time researching oils and greases and came across this article. http://www.grantcunningham.com/lubricants101.html Interesting read.
Vaden Posted May 21, 2013 at 02:37 AM Author Posted May 21, 2013 at 02:37 AM The containers still smell great, i keep them sealed and in a dark cabinet. One of my bottles had bad liquid that separates after a day our two but i use the paste on everything and it looks and smells good for a month or two then goes skunky.
wtr100 Posted May 21, 2013 at 01:17 PM Posted May 21, 2013 at 01:17 PM while not eco-friendly I find nothing beats Ed's Red - Google Ed Harris for more info Equal parts kerosenemineral spiritsacetoneauto transmission fluid Mine was then split into three batches batch one -cleaner - left out the tranny fluid batch two - General Purpose - as mixed batch three - storage - mixed in 1/2 part of really thick single weight synthetic race oil I got from brother out law - been so long don't remember but think it was 80 or 90 wt I mixed a gallon 15 years or more ago and it works great on everything from muzzle loaders (for storage) to M1 Garands and AR15's
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