SLIM410 Posted May 17, 2013 at 08:29 PM Posted May 17, 2013 at 08:29 PM Illinois Senate Passes Medical Cannabis Bill 35-21 May 17, 2013 On May 17, exactly one month after the same action by the Illinois House, the Illinois Senate voted 35-21 to pass House Bill 1, the Compassionate Use of Medical Cannabis Pilot Program Act, sending the bill to Governor Quinn’s desk to be signed into law. This comprehensive program represents a significant step forward for Illinois as the General Assembly more generally considers amending its policies regarding cannabis in line with many other states throughout the country. If this bill becomes law, Illinois will be the 20th state (plus D.C.) to allow for the use of cannabis for medical purposes in some circumstances. Illinois NORML supports House Bill 1 because it legally protects patients and their doctor’s right to choose the best course of treatment for each individual situation. “Finally, the Illinois General Assembly has passed a bill that will protect very ill people from being arrested if the patient and their doctor feel that cannabis can help the patient with their medical condition,” said Illinois NORML Executive Director Dan Linn. “Medical cannabis patients should not be criminals and should have safe and legal access to medical cannabis.” If signed into law, this bill would create a medical cannabis system regulated by the Department of Health, the Department of Agriculture and Department of Financial and Professional Regulation. The law provides for up to 22 cultivation centers and 60 dispensing organizations throughout the state. It would allow safe and legal access to medical cannabis for sick people with one of the more than 35 specific conditions listed in the legislation. The patients would be allowed to purchase 2.5 ounces every two weeks and any cannabis used in edibles, tinctures or topicals would count towards that allotted medicine limit. Medical cannabis would be taxed at the same rate as pharmaceutical and over the counter medicines of 1%. Public safety officials, school bus drivers, police officers, firefighters, commercial drivers, anyone convicted of a drug related felony and probation officers are prohibited from being patients. There are limits as to where cannabis may be consumed and carried and patients would be subject to a Standardized Field Sobriety Test if suspected of driving under the influence of cannabis. “We would also like to thank all the sponsors in both chambers for their work on this legislation.” Linn added. Part of the IL Senate debate included a few State Senators blasting the FDA for all the prescription drugs they are approving that are highly addictive and killing people from overdoses. Cannabis it was noted has never been shown to be fatal via overdose.
Skorpius Posted May 17, 2013 at 08:32 PM Posted May 17, 2013 at 08:32 PM I guess it depends on if you are asking someone who is in legitimate pain or not. Everything is important.
MrMonarch Posted May 17, 2013 at 08:37 PM Posted May 17, 2013 at 08:37 PM People have fought for medical marijuana just as hard as we here have fought for carry. I can attest to this personally as a family member of mine is very active in this movement. Let's not disparage accomplishments being made in this state, even if they seem to take precedence over what we view as more important issues.
Buckfarrack Posted May 17, 2013 at 08:37 PM Posted May 17, 2013 at 08:37 PM I would like to see some of these freaks blabbing BS in Springfield smoke a big ole fatty while in session.Maybe it would change their brain enough to "think" and give some of them "reasoning"
Flubnut Posted May 17, 2013 at 08:38 PM Posted May 17, 2013 at 08:38 PM Plus, this isn't RECREATIONAL use. That would be a huge FU. (See: Colorado)
Dave D Posted May 17, 2013 at 08:38 PM Posted May 17, 2013 at 08:38 PM Has Jello said if he is going to sign?
dorvinion Posted May 17, 2013 at 08:39 PM Posted May 17, 2013 at 08:39 PM Can't we just be happy for even the tiniest gains in freedom in this state.
vezpa Posted May 17, 2013 at 08:39 PM Posted May 17, 2013 at 08:39 PM I guees dope because the dopes have to vote CCW into law. .
MrMonarch Posted May 17, 2013 at 08:40 PM Posted May 17, 2013 at 08:40 PM Can't we just be happy for even the tiniest gains in freedom in this state. +1
wtr100 Posted May 17, 2013 at 08:43 PM Posted May 17, 2013 at 08:43 PM I'm sure the headshop / 'pharmacy' lobby paid enough for it
Xwing Posted May 17, 2013 at 08:45 PM Posted May 17, 2013 at 08:45 PM I see they're going to tax dope at 1%. Really? They want to put extra taxes on guns and ammo, yet won't even use the sales tax rate for people selling drugs?
MrMonarch Posted May 17, 2013 at 08:47 PM Posted May 17, 2013 at 08:47 PM I'm sure the headshop / 'pharmacy' lobby paid enough for it You understand those are the same snarky comments that have been/are being made about Todd and the NRA regarding the decision in the 7th? Say what you will, but don't get upset when you hear that same fallacious argument used against your cause.
wtr100 Posted May 17, 2013 at 08:48 PM Posted May 17, 2013 at 08:48 PM I'm sure the headshop / 'pharmacy' lobby paid enough for it You understand those are the same snarky comments that have been/are being made about Todd and the NRA regarding the decision in the 7th? Say what you will, but don't get upset when you hear that same fallacious argument used against your cause.
BackForward Posted May 17, 2013 at 08:48 PM Posted May 17, 2013 at 08:48 PM I see they're going to tax dope at 1%. Really? They want to put extra taxes on guns and ammo, yet won't even use the sales tax rate for people selling drugs? Marijuana isn't dope, it's a plant.
danbury Posted May 17, 2013 at 08:50 PM Posted May 17, 2013 at 08:50 PM I'm sure the headshop / 'pharmacy' lobby paid enough for it Wow... you can't really see the forest for the trees can you?
MrMonarch Posted May 17, 2013 at 08:50 PM Posted May 17, 2013 at 08:50 PM I see they're going to tax dope at 1%. Really? They want to put extra taxes on guns and ammo, yet won't even use the sales tax rate for people selling drugs? It's not recreational and there is no sales tax on prescription medicine, only OTC. Prescription drugs are exempt from sales taxes in almost every state, while most states charge sales tax on non-prescription drugs, and Illinois levies a 1% tax on non-prescription drugs. http://biztaxlaw.abo...axableitems.htm
vstar Posted May 17, 2013 at 08:54 PM Posted May 17, 2013 at 08:54 PM It's moot now but thc has been available at least since the 80's in pill form. My brother had it back then. Seems to be a slippery slope with recreational use just down the road. One step at a time.
RockerXX Posted May 17, 2013 at 08:55 PM Posted May 17, 2013 at 08:55 PM I believe everyone has the right to access medication that will help provide them a better quality of life... The governments throughout history have demonized what they deem illegal drugs to the point of absurdity while they promote and sponsor what they feel is a legitimate medication... Very much like they have done to firearms!!! Marijuana is a perfect example, along with natural opioid pain killers... They have been demonized to no end, all the while the government has promoted and sponsored a boat load of alternative pain killers that are easily arguably worse for you by many magnitudes... It's time our governments admit that prohibition is a failed path...
carbinex556 Posted May 17, 2013 at 09:09 PM Posted May 17, 2013 at 09:09 PM I could care less if it was legal, even for recreational use. Just treat it like alcohol, no smoking it in public and DUI's for vehicles. I just wish both sides cared as much about our right to carry.
d38runner Posted May 17, 2013 at 09:13 PM Posted May 17, 2013 at 09:13 PM Can't we just be happy for even the tiniest gains in freedom in this state. Couldn't have said it better myself. Any movement in this state towards more freedom for the individual is a good thing. Remember, we don't want them to pass laws that puts Joe Schmoe in a cage because he owns a "military-style, semi-automatic assault rifle." I also don't want them to lock up Joe Schmoe in a cage just because he's decided to smoke some marijuana on a Friday night to relax instead of knocking off a six pack. Granted, the two are different (one is an enumerated constitutional right, the other is a little fuzzy), but freedom is freedom.
kk5 Posted May 17, 2013 at 09:17 PM Posted May 17, 2013 at 09:17 PM I believe everyone has the right to access medication that will help provide them a better quality of life... The governments throughout history have demonized what they deem illegal drugs to the point of absurdity while they promote and sponsor what they feel is a legitimate medication... Very much like they have done to firearms!!! Marijuana is a perfect example, along with natural opioid pain killers... They have been demonized to no end, all the while the government has promoted and sponsored a boat load of alternative pain killers that are easily arguably worse for you by many magnitudes... It's time our governments admit that prohibition is a failed path...Prescription pain killers are abused just as much and are a lot more dangerous than Marijuana. I'd much rather see a person with a ccw smoking than taking prescription pain killers. After all it doesn't make people go on a killing spree unless it is just used as an excuse.
Davey Posted May 17, 2013 at 09:17 PM Posted May 17, 2013 at 09:17 PM I'm glad this got passed. Was disappointed my rep voted against it. Next up, legalize it completely.
Xwing Posted May 17, 2013 at 09:20 PM Posted May 17, 2013 at 09:20 PM It's not recreational ... Does anyone really believe that most of the sales will be for truly medicinal purposes? It's interesting how many people "just happen to" find they have a medical need for pot once it's legal. In states that follow this path, anyone can go do a doctor with "pain" and many will happily write out such prescriptions. It is simply legalizing drug use. If people want to go get high, that's their business. But they should at least be honest about it...
RockerXX Posted May 17, 2013 at 09:26 PM Posted May 17, 2013 at 09:26 PM Prescription pain killers are abused just as much and are a lot more dangerous than Marijuana. I'd much rather see a person with a ccw smoking than taking prescription pain killers. After all it doesn't make people go on a killing spree unless it is just used as an excuse. I agree, and that is the problem I see when governments demonize one and promote the other...
kk5 Posted May 17, 2013 at 09:26 PM Posted May 17, 2013 at 09:26 PM It's not recreational ... Does anyone really believe that most of the sales will be for truly medicinal purposes? It's interesting how many people "just happen to" find they have a medical need for pot once it's legal. In states that follow this path, anyone can go do a doctor with "pain" and many will happily write out such prescriptions. It is simply legalizing drug use. If people want to go get high, that's their business. But they should at least be honest about it...As if you can't go to the doctor and get prescription pain killers for little pains
DoYouFeelLucky Posted May 17, 2013 at 09:33 PM Posted May 17, 2013 at 09:33 PM They need to raise the limit of 2.5 ounces to 2.5 lbs, and make it so you can get the prescription over the internet. Seriously! The net on an acre of MJ is around $60,000 annually. I've got 20 acres that is prime soil for growing MJ!
RockerXX Posted May 17, 2013 at 09:34 PM Posted May 17, 2013 at 09:34 PM As if you can't go to the doctor and get prescription pain killers for little pains Or speed because you can't stay focused at work... Or mood altering drugs because you are not happy... Or this or that drug for whatever reason... Yep, people will abuse the policy, but that is no reason or excuse to deny it to legitimate users that need it... Truth is, I doubt many 'recreational' and 'abusers' will be bothered with going to the doctors to get a script where they will be scrutinized and have to pay for the visit, sure some will but I suspect a VAST majority will not since it's so easily obtainable by other means... The reason pill abusers go to the doctors now is because getting those drugs on the street is bloody expensive and hard to come by, no so with marijuana..
MrMonarch Posted May 17, 2013 at 09:35 PM Posted May 17, 2013 at 09:35 PM It's not recreational ... Does anyone really believe that most of the sales will be for truly medicinal purposes? It's interesting how many people "just happen to" find they have a medical need for pot once it's legal. In states that follow this path, anyone can go do a doctor with "pain" and many will happily write out such prescriptions. It is simply legalizing drug use. If people want to go get high, that's their business. But they should at least be honest about it... You are implying that people who want to smoke weed for recreational purposes wouldn't just do so without a permit. I don't see the logic. If I want to smoke a joint, it's one call away, not a doctors visit and prescription away with limits on the amount.
colt-45 Posted May 17, 2013 at 09:36 PM Posted May 17, 2013 at 09:36 PM man o man what next, you can marrie your dog.
DoYouFeelLucky Posted May 17, 2013 at 09:41 PM Posted May 17, 2013 at 09:41 PM The next thing you will hear from Madigan is that we cannot have all these doped up people with medical problems carrying weapons.
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