mauserme Posted March 2, 2013 at 11:35 PM Posted March 2, 2013 at 11:35 PM With all the conversation about how members of the House recently voted on each of the HB1155 amendments, it seemed like a good idea to supply the information in a graphical format Lo and behold, Elderberry came through right on time with the attached spreadsheet depicting each amendment cross referenced to every member's vote, along with vote totals and results. This will be very valuable information as we move forward in the process of achieving Right to Carry in Illinois and may also be quite useful as a voting resource in the next elections. Thank you, sir, for the excellent work. Link to Web Site https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&key=0ApKXRqVgygdsdFZiT1NZR1o5YXhGY29QS0ZfaFRnSXc&output=html
mauserme Posted March 3, 2013 at 01:14 AM Author Posted March 3, 2013 at 01:14 AM Great job guys!! Just guy (in the singular). It's all Elderberry's work - all I did was post it.
Buzzard Posted March 3, 2013 at 02:05 AM Posted March 3, 2013 at 02:05 AM An outstanding piece of work, Elderberry! Members such as yourself makes IllinoisCarry the premier site to follow the fight to regain RIGHT TO CARRY IN ILLINOIS!! Again, Thank you Elderberry for your efforts!!
oldude Posted March 3, 2013 at 02:33 AM Posted March 3, 2013 at 02:33 AM Good job Elderberry! Nice job of posting it too mauserme
mauserme Posted March 3, 2013 at 02:50 AM Author Posted March 3, 2013 at 02:50 AM I don't know if anyone noticed, but if you click that Link to Website in the opening post or here, the spreadsheet opens full screen. It makes is easier to see everything.
Elderberry Posted March 3, 2013 at 04:58 AM Posted March 3, 2013 at 04:58 AM Awwww shucks folks Thanks....
StreuB1 Posted March 3, 2013 at 05:13 AM Posted March 3, 2013 at 05:13 AM I am a data geek I am going to scour this for trends I already see something alarming but I think based on a prior thread......there might be strategy within it. My rep voted YES to A1 - A5 but stopped there and then voted on A27. My rep is pro CCW and pro-gun.
TyGuy Posted March 3, 2013 at 05:30 AM Posted March 3, 2013 at 05:30 AM Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelled of elderberries.
Sub Hunter Posted March 3, 2013 at 11:59 AM Posted March 3, 2013 at 11:59 AM Great job guys!! Just guy (in the singular). It's all Elderberry's work - all I did was post it. Ok then great assist. How's that? Elderberry thanks for taking the time to put that together, it's much easier to follow.
Sub Hunter Posted March 3, 2013 at 12:00 PM Posted March 3, 2013 at 12:00 PM Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelled of elderberries. Nice!! I love Monty Python!
Machine Posted March 3, 2013 at 01:44 PM Posted March 3, 2013 at 01:44 PM Thanks, Elderberry! Perfect - let's me know what our reps are actually doing.
Chicago Guy 77 Posted March 4, 2013 at 03:52 PM Posted March 4, 2013 at 03:52 PM I thought After Ford had the "Task Force" results he was going to vote for us!
AlphaKoncepts aka CGS Posted March 4, 2013 at 05:20 PM Posted March 4, 2013 at 05:20 PM Cool. I had posted a link to something similar, but this is even better.
glockready Posted March 7, 2013 at 03:28 PM Posted March 7, 2013 at 03:28 PM http://www.ilga.gov/house/audvid.asp# House Reps are at it again watch live.
firepiper Posted March 8, 2013 at 08:05 PM Posted March 8, 2013 at 08:05 PM One minor request......could you put a brief summary of the amnedment (ie - daycare ban, stadium ban) near the top......would help from having to click between pages to determine the topic of the amendment... Thanks in advance
Elderberry Posted March 8, 2013 at 08:50 PM Posted March 8, 2013 at 08:50 PM One minor request......could you put a brief summary of the amnedment (ie - daycare ban, stadium ban) near the top......would help from having to click between pages to determine the topic of the amendment... Thanks in advance The description of each amendment is embedded into the spreadsheet as a note that shows up as a footnote at the bottom.... Soooo, if you are reading the information by looking at Post #1 in this thread, then put your mouse on the chart and scroll down (or move the slider down) until you see the bottom of the chart and you will see the information you requested. If you are going to the web site linked in Post #1 you can do the same thing -- and it's a lot easier to see it because the page is much bigger...
mauserme Posted March 9, 2013 at 05:22 AM Author Posted March 9, 2013 at 05:22 AM In the midst of all the IGOLD activity, markthesignguy also found time to provide a spreadsheet oulining the votes on the HB1155 amendments. I have to say, if our opposition had people half as dedicated as Illinois Carry members, we would be in big trouble. Link to WebSite https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&key=0ApKXRqVgygdsdGZ5TjY5bzJLYldiQUlDTWVfMUp0OEE&output=html
TomKoz Posted March 9, 2013 at 06:08 AM Posted March 9, 2013 at 06:08 AM WAIT. I'm seeing Rep. Durkin voted Yes on all those bad measures/amendments??? Does this mean I REALLY need to ramp up my vocalization against him?????? He seemed to be leaning toward "our" side?? OR are his votes political gamesmanship? I want to make sure before I release the hounds.
cm.stites Posted March 10, 2013 at 10:54 PM Posted March 10, 2013 at 10:54 PM theres a method to thier votes!!!!!! how many times does that have to be stated before people will finally realize it. the votes on 1155 and 1156 were just a set of games by madigan to try and use those votes in the campaigns. durkin is on our side and will be on our side again....going after him and a few of the others for the way they voted would be the worst thing we could do right now..
PTDG1 Posted March 17, 2013 at 01:02 AM Posted March 17, 2013 at 01:02 AM Really disappointed im my Representative, Joe Sosnowski. I sent him an E-mail a couple of weeks ago and received this message in return.Thank you for contacting my office regarding concealed carry. I appreciate the opportunity to respond to you concerning this matter. We are all saddened by the unconscionable events that took place at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut. As a result of this terrible tragedy, the families of the victims are certainly in my thoughts as they work through the anguish that accompanies the sudden and violent loss of a loved one. The devastating effect of gun violence is on the minds of many Americans, but most would still agree that law abiding gun owners would personally like to prevent all tragedies; however it is impossible to safeguard against every possible violent action. I do not agree that more gun laws or restrictions are the answer to preventing violent crimes; however, improving our background check process is a well-intentioned move towards keeping firearms out of the hands of mentally unstable individuals. The Illinois Courts have ruled recently that the Second Amendment confers a right to bear arms for self-defense, which is as important outside of the home as inside. The court has determined that the state legislature has 180 days to craft a responsible proposal that meets constitutional muster regarding an individual's right to bear arms. I am pleased the courts are forcing this discussion onto the legislative leaders who for many years have tried to prevent reasonable concealed carry language. I believe House Bill 148 provides a worthy model for concealed carry regulations and qualifications. In addition, I do not support the 97th General Assembly bills HB1263 or HB815. In addition, I do not support the more recent 98th General Assembly's SB42 or any assault weapons ban on law abiding citizens. I appreciate you sharing your ideas about how to make Illinois concealed carry law effective and efficient. Please know I am a strong proponent of our 2nd Amendment Right to conceal and carry, and I believe rights should be afforded to responsible law abiding gun owners. I look forward to hearing from you again with regard to this or any future legislative concern you may have.Sincerely, Joe SosnowskiState RepresentativeDistrict 69
PTDG1 Posted March 17, 2013 at 01:08 AM Posted March 17, 2013 at 01:08 AM Last week I came here to check the voting results from Springfield only to find Congressman Sosnowski voted Y on just about every restriction or he didn't vote at all. Have we just become a country of liars?
Elderberry Posted March 17, 2013 at 01:14 AM Posted March 17, 2013 at 01:14 AM Last week I came here to check the voting results from Springfield only to find Congressman Sosnowski voted Y on just about every restriction or he didn't vote at all. Have we just become a country of liars? There is one vote on that spreadsheet that you need to focus on and only one vote -- where did he stand on HB997. That is the indicator that he will vote you a good concealed carry bill when the big day finally gets here....
cm.stites Posted March 17, 2013 at 01:14 AM Posted March 17, 2013 at 01:14 AM last week was all about getting dirt for campaigns by madigan... alot of people voted yes or present on stuff they didnt want used against them until it came to final passage.
mauserme Posted March 17, 2013 at 03:23 PM Author Posted March 17, 2013 at 03:23 PM Updated to include 3/13/2013 votes.
Elderberry Posted March 19, 2013 at 09:25 PM Posted March 19, 2013 at 09:25 PM Reserved for update from 3/19/2013.... EDIT @ 9pm -- Still waiting on the clerk to post the tally sheets. Without those I have no idea who voted how... At this point it looks like it will be tomorrow... Sorry folks...
downrange Posted March 20, 2013 at 02:25 PM Posted March 20, 2013 at 02:25 PM House votes on HB1155, Amendments 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, and 53 finally posted by clerk. HFA47 http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/votehistory/98/house/09800HB1155_03192013_002000A.pdf HFA48 http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/votehistory/98/house/09800HB1155_03192013_003000A.pdf HFA49 http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/votehistory/98/house/09800HB1155_03192013_004000A.pdf HFA50 http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/votehistory/98/house/09800HB1155_03192013_005000A.pdf HFA51 http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/votehistory/98/house/09800HB1155_03192013_006000A.pdf HFA52 http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/votehistory/98/house/09800HB1155_03192013_007000A.pdf HFA53 http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/votehistory/98/house/09800HB1155_03192013_008000A.pdf
solareclipse2 Posted March 20, 2013 at 02:40 PM Posted March 20, 2013 at 02:40 PM Just looked all of the votes over. It's clear that my rep doesn't care in the slightest about what's in the interest of the people he represents. He voted yes on everything except the $1MM insurance amendment despite calls and e-mails pleading with him to vote no. Nobody actually representing his district could honestly vote yes to the things he's voting without being in someone's pocket.
lightforce1911 Posted March 20, 2013 at 04:39 PM Posted March 20, 2013 at 04:39 PM My rep John D'amico says hes pro 2nd. With these votes u can tell hes not.
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