Jump to content


Photo

NBC news tonight

Chicago shootings

This topic has been archived. This means that you cannot reply to this topic.
17 replies to this topic

#1 brokenelbow

  • Members
  • 16 posts
  • Joined: 05-May 10

Posted 02 September 2012 - 04:52 PM

On NBC news tonight they did an article on all the shootings in Chicago this year. How much longer can the chicago politicians and our governer stick their heads in the sand and ignore the fact that other states with conceal carry are not having these problems on their streets?

It obvious to me that criminals run the Chicago streets and they don't obey laws. They clearly know that law abiding citizens obey the law and are not armed so they do what they want.

It it not time to make a change? How many more will be killed before a logical solution is approved in Illinois?

#2 Lou

    Resident Old Guy

  • Supporting Members Team
  • 10,912 posts
  • Joined: 18-May 04

Posted 02 September 2012 - 05:20 PM

On NBC news tonight they did an article on all the shootings in Chicago this year. How much longer can the chicago politicians and our governer stick their heads in the sand and ignore the fact that other states with conceal carry are not having these problems on their streets?

It obvious to me that criminals run the Chicago streets and they don't obey laws. They clearly know that law abiding citizens obey the law and are not armed so they do what they want.

It it not time to make a change? How many more will be killed before a logical solution is approved in Illinois?


I think the sad part is that we even have to ask that question.

The current solution is obviously a failure. It is WAY past time we try something else.

People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. -  George Orwell

A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again. 


#3 colt-45

    Member

  • Members
  • 2,358 posts
  • Joined: 29-April 11

Posted 02 September 2012 - 07:01 PM


On NBC news tonight they did an article on all the shootings in Chicago this year. How much longer can the chicago politicians and our governer stick their heads in the sand and ignore the fact that other states with conceal carry are not having these problems on their streets?

It obvious to me that criminals run the Chicago streets and they don't obey laws. They clearly know that law abiding citizens obey the law and are not armed so they do what they want.

It it not time to make a change? How many more will be killed before a logical solution is approved in Illinois?


I think the sad part is that we even have to ask that question.

The current solution is obviously a failure. It is WAY past time we try something else.

been asking that for 20years now.

#4 3ddiver

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 915 posts
  • Joined: 08-January 09

Posted 02 September 2012 - 07:28 PM

But on Meet the Press this morning Rahm said crime was down 10% in Chicago. He repeated that a couple of times and was not challenged on it either. The shootings are just gang on gang and they are sending more police to get it under control :rolleyes:

#5 abolt243

    Tim Bowyer

  • Moderator
  • 11,323 posts
  • Joined: 30-April 07

Posted 02 September 2012 - 07:33 PM

But on Meet the Press this morning Rahm said crime was down 10% in Chicago. He repeated that a couple of times and was not challenged on it either. The shootings are just gang on gang and they are sending more police to get it under control :rolleyes:


Only because they're going back and recategorizing past crimes to "massage" the numbers.

It's the Chicago way.

AB
Are you a member of the ISRA?? If not, why not?? Join over 18,000 other Illinois gun owners in the fight for your rights!!!

The Roman Empire fell due to a large, corrupt government, overspending, an overextended military, insecure borders, and the illegal immigration of Goths, barbarians (anyone who was not educated), and religious fanatics. Sound familiar?


"..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.."
--Samuel Adams

Luke 11:21 - "When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed." NASB


#6 SFC Stu

    Member

  • Members
  • 1,463 posts
  • Joined: 12-April 05

Posted 02 September 2012 - 07:42 PM

And why would anyone believe Rahm??

#7 Lou

    Resident Old Guy

  • Supporting Members Team
  • 10,912 posts
  • Joined: 18-May 04

Posted 02 September 2012 - 07:44 PM


But on Meet the Press this morning Rahm said crime was down 10% in Chicago. He repeated that a couple of times and was not challenged on it either. The shootings are just gang on gang and they are sending more police to get it under control :rolleyes:


Only because they're going back and recategorizing past crimes to "massage" the numbers.

It's the Chicago way.

AB


If you have a shooting with 5 victims and you count it as 1 shooting it makes the numbers look better.
If the Rahmfather thinks he's doing such a great job how about he takes a nice long walk through Englewood without his security detail?
Think he's up to the task?

People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. -  George Orwell

A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again. 


#8 abolt243

    Tim Bowyer

  • Moderator
  • 11,323 posts
  • Joined: 30-April 07

Posted 02 September 2012 - 07:50 PM

He'd dance right around those gangbangers!!!
Are you a member of the ISRA?? If not, why not?? Join over 18,000 other Illinois gun owners in the fight for your rights!!!

The Roman Empire fell due to a large, corrupt government, overspending, an overextended military, insecure borders, and the illegal immigration of Goths, barbarians (anyone who was not educated), and religious fanatics. Sound familiar?


"..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.."
--Samuel Adams

Luke 11:21 - "When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed." NASB


#9 Tvandermyde

    Member

  • Members
  • 5,832 posts
  • Joined: 29-March 09

Posted 02 September 2012 - 08:04 PM

got a link?
While a 9 mm or .40 caliber bullet may or may not expand, it is an undeniable fact that a .45 caliber bullet will never shrink.

#10 abolt243

    Tim Bowyer

  • Moderator
  • 11,323 posts
  • Joined: 30-April 07

Posted 02 September 2012 - 08:08 PM

got a link?


It's the lead story here right now, not sure how long it'll stay there. Scroll down to get to the Chicago violence segment.
Are you a member of the ISRA?? If not, why not?? Join over 18,000 other Illinois gun owners in the fight for your rights!!!

The Roman Empire fell due to a large, corrupt government, overspending, an overextended military, insecure borders, and the illegal immigration of Goths, barbarians (anyone who was not educated), and religious fanatics. Sound familiar?


"..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.."
--Samuel Adams

Luke 11:21 - "When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed." NASB


#11 Mr. Fife

    Nip it

  • Members
  • 7,984 posts
  • Joined: 03-July 10

Posted 02 September 2012 - 08:31 PM

It's the lead story here right now, not sure how long it'll stay there.


Dang, he's supposedly only 52 but he looks like a recycled zombie.

Have all boated who fish? Have all boated who fish?


#12 Drylok

    Member

  • Members
  • 8,691 posts
  • Joined: 15-February 08

Posted 03 September 2012 - 05:31 AM

I agree but I don't think it's fair to say that shall issue states don't have crime/gang problems. And ccw won't deter the ruthless gang bangers from committing crimes against the innocent but it will without doubt give the innocent a fighting chance in such an attack.
"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks"
-Thomas Jefferson-

Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
-Aaron Lewis-

#13 Gunslinger

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 575 posts
  • Joined: 28-March 12

Posted 03 September 2012 - 06:38 AM

Gangs are a result of the state and federal government regulating things they have no right regulating.
The Second Amendment IS my concealed weapons permit.... Period!-Ted Nugent

Example of Combat Logic:

Marine #1-"You can't just add zeros to the end of a 6 digit grid to make a 10 digit...."
Marine #2-"Sure you can, the GPS accepted it and now we are on our way!"

#14 Gooch

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 534 posts
  • Joined: 21-November 07

Posted 03 September 2012 - 06:38 AM

Yea...... CCW will not fix Chicago's gang problem. It will certainly give law abiding victims who chose to carrry a fighting chance, but most of these murders are gang bangers on gang bangers fighting over territory and drug sales. This problem is generational ..... and there is no good solution. (I mean, I have a few good solutions but I won't mention them here) ;)

Gooch

#15 Gooch

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 534 posts
  • Joined: 21-November 07

Posted 03 September 2012 - 06:40 AM

Gangs are a result of the state and federal government regulating things they have no right regulating.


I believe gangs are a result of bad parenting. When you have 14, 15, 16 year old kids out on the street @ 1am there is nothing good that will become of it.

Gooch

#16 Gunslinger

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 575 posts
  • Joined: 28-March 12

Posted 03 September 2012 - 07:16 AM

It all stems from prohibiting items and services that are desired by the public
The Second Amendment IS my concealed weapons permit.... Period!-Ted Nugent

Example of Combat Logic:

Marine #1-"You can't just add zeros to the end of a 6 digit grid to make a 10 digit...."
Marine #2-"Sure you can, the GPS accepted it and now we are on our way!"

#17 Indigo

    Just another silver-haired devil

  • Supporting Members Team
  • 2,593 posts
  • Joined: 30-April 11

Posted 03 September 2012 - 04:44 PM

It all stems from prohibiting items and services that are desired by the public


When was the most recent news story about Al Capone's boys doing a drive-by over bootlegging turf? The War on Drugs is an abysmal failure. License the production and distribution of drugs, and the economic incentives for the gang bangers vanish. Who would buy on the corner when you can go to a DRUG store (like a liquor store) and get reliable, cheap, pure drugs without the threat of arrest?
  • They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it’s not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance

#18 Gunslinger

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 575 posts
  • Joined: 28-March 12

Posted 03 September 2012 - 05:50 PM

ImageUploadedByTapatalk1346716384.543268.jpg

ImageUploadedByTapatalk1346716393.837663.jpg
The Second Amendment IS my concealed weapons permit.... Period!-Ted Nugent

Example of Combat Logic:

Marine #1-"You can't just add zeros to the end of a 6 digit grid to make a 10 digit...."
Marine #2-"Sure you can, the GPS accepted it and now we are on our way!"