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Can a governor pardon himself or herself?
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borgranta
, Aug 11 2012 11:58 PM
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Posted 11 August 2012 - 11:58 PM
The 2nd amendment was intended not only for protecting against tyranny but also enforcing and protecting the rule of law and the sovereignty of the states and the country as a whole which could include repelling invasions. If the citizens were not disarmed in New Orleans after Katrina than the lawlessnes would have been either reduced or eliminated.
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Posted 12 August 2012 - 12:10 AM
You did what with who for how many cookies?
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Posted 12 August 2012 - 06:23 AM
Uh Borg ... your post it no make sense ...
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Posted 12 August 2012 - 06:54 AM
If it can be done Illinois governors will do it before leaving office. I think Blago would have done it if he could.
Edited by junglebob, 12 August 2012 - 06:55 AM.
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Remember the 1991 Luby Cafeteria Massacre of the Unarmed (Kileen, Texas before Texas Concealed Carry) Do we need 23 people to die in a similar incident before we're allowed effective self defense?
Three school masacres have been stopped by civilians with firearms. Two with handguns and the third by a guy with a shotgun. (Pearl, Ms; Appalacian School of Law; Edinboro,Pa)
Remember the 1991 Luby Cafeteria Massacre of the Unarmed (Kileen, Texas before Texas Concealed Carry) Do we need 23 people to die in a similar incident before we're allowed effective self defense?
Three school masacres have been stopped by civilians with firearms. Two with handguns and the third by a guy with a shotgun. (Pearl, Ms; Appalacian School of Law; Edinboro,Pa)
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Posted 12 August 2012 - 07:11 AM
All past convictions have been for federal charges.
IANAL but I don't think they have the power to pardon for federal crimes.
IANAL but I don't think they have the power to pardon for federal crimes.
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Posted 14 August 2012 - 10:46 AM
junglebob, on 12 August 2012 - 06:54 AM, said:
If it can be done Illinois governors will do it before leaving office. I think Blago would have done it if he could.
Yep. If it were a choide, Blago would've certainly done it.
He'd have the pardon pre-printed up, and just read it to himself once the jury said "Guilty".
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Posted 15 August 2012 - 10:06 PM
Xwing, on 14 August 2012 - 10:46 AM, said:
junglebob, on 12 August 2012 - 06:54 AM, said:
If it can be done Illinois governors will do it before leaving office. I think Blago would have done it if he could.
Yep. If it were a choide, Blago would've certainly done it.
He'd have the pardon pre-printed up, and just read it to himself once the jury said "Guilty".
Couldn't happen. Blago was no longer Governor by the time he was convicted. Same for all the other Governors convicted of mis-deeds in Illinois.
So I think the answer to the original question is... No, a governor cannot pardon himself.
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Posted 15 August 2012 - 11:18 PM
Lou, on 12 August 2012 - 07:11 AM, said:
All past convictions have been for federal charges.
IANAL but I don't think they have the power to pardon for federal crimes.
IANAL but I don't think they have the power to pardon for federal crimes.
Correct. State governors cannot pardon federal crimes, only state crimes. Blago is now a resident of FCI-Thornton in Colorado.
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Posted 16 August 2012 - 03:53 PM
Guys, just so you know, the OP misunderstood what was going in another thread...
http://illinoiscarry...showtopic=29295
In the other thread, the OP (borgranta) misunderstood and thought a governor had pardoned himself (governor). So the OP created this thread (the one you're reading now) to ask if a governor can pardon himself, but I had already clarified for the OP (borgranta) what really happened in the other thread.
No need to bump this thread again.
http://illinoiscarry...showtopic=29295
In the other thread, the OP (borgranta) misunderstood and thought a governor had pardoned himself (governor). So the OP created this thread (the one you're reading now) to ask if a governor can pardon himself, but I had already clarified for the OP (borgranta) what really happened in the other thread.
No need to bump this thread again.
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