what was the vote on the detention center issue?
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, May 30 2012 11:33 PM
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 12:57 PM
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 12:58 PM
TyGuy, on 31 May 2012 - 12:57 PM, said:
what was the vote on the detention center issue?
55 YES - 61 NO and a couple present I think - postponed consideration.
At least Acevedo took a loss before going home.
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 01:02 PM
Ok, the video skipped so I heard "55 present". I laughed, but then I realized it was probably a mistake.
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 01:07 PM
HB4819 is up.
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 01:08 PM
amendment 1, 4819 crossbow something or other just passed 118-0
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 01:08 PM
The House concurs with Senate Amendment No 1 to HB4819 and the bill has passed.
Three you go Uncle Harley - off to the governor for this one.
Three you go Uncle Harley - off to the governor for this one.
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 01:09 PM
Shoulda attached RTC to that one. Concealed crossbows sound bad a!
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 01:18 PM
TyGuy, on 31 May 2012 - 01:09 PM, said:
Shoulda attached RTC to that one. Concealed crossbows sound bad a!
Uncle Harley's 2 for 2 isn't he??
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 01:20 PM
well another year and we got ???? . Sorry to do this to the Chicago member here, put Let the city opt out. Let the people thaat live there enjoy the the problems they send to city hall and Springfield. If thats what it takes to get Conceal Carry , So be it
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 01:20 PM
abolt243, on 31 May 2012 - 01:18 PM, said:
TyGuy, on 31 May 2012 - 01:09 PM, said:
Shoulda attached RTC to that one. Concealed crossbows sound bad a!
Uncle Harley's 2 for 2 isn't he??
Yes he is ...
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 01:21 PM
ike, on 31 May 2012 - 01:20 PM, said:
well another year and we got ???? . Sorry to do this to the Chicago member here, put Let the city opt out. Let the people thaat live there enjoy the the problems they send to city hall and Springfield. If thats what it takes to get Conceal Carry , So be it
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 01:22 PM
TyGuy, on 31 May 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:
ike, on 31 May 2012 - 01:20 PM, said:
well another year and we got ???? . Sorry to do this to the Chicago member here, put Let the city opt out. Let the people thaat live there enjoy the the problems they send to city hall and Springfield. If thats what it takes to get Conceal Carry , So be it
Never got in the record...it is bottled up in committee.
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 01:23 PM
TyGuy, on 31 May 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:
ike, on 31 May 2012 - 01:20 PM, said:
well another year and we got ???? . Sorry to do this to the Chicago member here, put Let the city opt out. Let the people thaat live there enjoy the the problems they send to city hall and Springfield. If thats what it takes to get Conceal Carry , So be it
No, but it looks like Madigan won't let it hit the floor.
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 01:23 PM
Ike, the only problem with that is the lawsuits would have to start all over again. In my heart of hearts I do agree with your submission though.
"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks"
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 01:23 PM
mauserme, on 31 May 2012 - 11:42 AM, said:
mstrat, on 31 May 2012 - 11:40 AM, said:
SB2539 isn't even on the calendar. There's pretty much a 0% chance it will come up for a vote, no?
If Speaker Madigan would relaese the bill there is still time to run it.
It's entirely up to him at thispoint.
Interesting that last year Madigan let a carry bill come to the floor when he knew the votes weren't there to pass it...but this year he isn't taking that chance.
Maybe he knows this time we have the 71 votes.
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 01:23 PM
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 01:25 PM
Farmer - are we certain that it won't be brought up? Did I miss something procedural? Should I stop listening, or is there still hope, even the slightest faint hope, that it could come up today?
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 01:29 PM
You didn't ask me, I realize, but I don't see it happening today.
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 01:30 PM
No, it's over Ty Court case is being heard next Friday I think it is
"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks"
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Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 01:32 PM
Drylok, on 31 May 2012 - 01:30 PM, said:
No, it's over Ty Court case is being heard next Friday I think it is
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 01:35 PM
Isn't there a way to sue Madigan for blocking a bill from a vote just because he dosen't like it? If not, sounds like a good idea for a bill next session. HB1 "The speaker can not keep a bill from a floor vote without good reason." And NOT, "Just Because".
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 01:37 PM
Drylok, on 31 May 2012 - 01:30 PM, said:
No, it's over Ty Court case is being heard next Friday I think it is
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I don't think you can sue but you can scream and shout and slam your microphone down - that you can do.
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TyGuy, on 31 May 2012 - 01:37 PM, said:
Drylok, on 31 May 2012 - 01:30 PM, said:
No, it's over Ty Court case is being heard next Friday I think it is
No, the bill was never let out of committee.
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 01:38 PM
Talonap, he is not breaking any rules by doing this and it would take a constitutional amendment to fix it. But I agree, NO speaker should ever block a bill from going to the floor ever.
"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks"
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Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
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Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 01:38 PM
Drylok, on 31 May 2012 - 01:30 PM, said:
No, it's over Ty Court case is being heard next Friday I think it is
Would we have had the votes if it were called?
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 01:38 PM
It's stuck in committee man - the Speaker has to determine to bring a bill to a reading out of committee. It's just the reality right now, and there's not way Madigan is going to let it come to the floor today. He's scared.
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C0untZer0, on 31 May 2012 - 01:37 PM, said:
I don't think you can sue but you can scream and shout and slam your microphone down - that you can do.
Damn right, and I welcome more of that
"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks"
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Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
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Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 01:42 PM
TyGuy, on 31 May 2012 - 01:25 PM, said:
Farmer - are we certain that it won't be brought up? Did I miss something procedural? Should I stop listening, or is there still hope, even the slightest faint hope, that it could come up today?
As long as they are in session there is a faint chance. Also, there is always the chance of a special session.
Keep in mind though that if it sits until the Fall session, there won't be enough time to override a veto (should Quinn fulfill one of his promises) if he vetoes it late enough. He has 60 days to sit on it and if the veto session ends earlier than his 60 day limit, he can veto it with no chance of an override (at least no chance to my knowledge).
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 01:44 PM
Even the we get the court decision we want, whats that going to do? Just spark an appeal on their side? Either way, We still sit here without CCW. Exactly, what they want!
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