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[clamzo]

http://www.huffingto...l?ncid=webmail1

This has to be a reverse psych tactic from the antis.  I hope no one who actually supports the 2nd amendment would do this.

[cgs]

I've been to several ranges which absolutely prohibit any humanoid targets.  Rally that target is tacky in my opinion... and I hope the seller is donating to zimmerman's defense since he is profiting from zimmerman's situation.

[vezpa]

http://illinoiscarry...showtopic=30042

[Mr. Fife]

I've been to lots of ranges that use human looking targets, I've even seen bin Laden targets. This one seems to be in poor taste though given all the emotions involving the Zimmerman-Martin shooting. I personally would not spend my money on those targets. I'll stick to the BC-21 target so that I'll be proficient for the Illinois CCW test.

[Gunslinger]

Range that doesn't allow human targets? We shoot up maniquins from retail stores if we get lucky enough to find some being discarded.

[cgs]

"No human facsimile... targets are allowed."

http://bristolranges...Rifle_Range.htm


I commonly shoot at Bristol just because it's the fastest for me to get to.

[Gunslinger]

cgs, on 13 May 2012 - 09:20 AM, said:

"No human facsimile... targets are allowed."

http://bristolranges...Rifle_Range.htm


I commonly shoot at Bristol just because it's the fastest for me to get to.

I had less rules than that teaching my five year old neighbor to shoot.

[TFC]

Does this mean that I have to get rid of my unibomber targets?

[willxjcherokee]

I sometimes get silhouette targets and draw smiley faces on them :-D

[belercous]

The jerk who's selling these targets is not helping CC advocates & gun owners. Pretty poor taste as well.

[Smallbore]

I thought these types of targets are common in "shoot, don't shoot" training. Wouldn't this be a "good guy, don't shoot". So what's the problem?

[rock4xfab]

I have seen full Color Photos not just silhouettes being used by LEO'S at a local indoor range. I questioned it when I saw but never was given an answer. I know why BUT..

[belercous]

How do these types of targets look to the general public? I'm not too sure that shooting at humanoid targets is going to endear gun owners to the public at large. Anyone really think that the avg. Joe or Mary is going to have a positive view of firearms when they see these types of targets? Can't see the problem, eh?

Gun owners look real good when we shoot at human targets. What does this say? We own guns to kill people. We think it's cool to shoot people. An inoffensive bull's eye target wouldn't be cause for alarm, but we have to make it known that handgunners only have them in order to shoot people, just look at our targets. Does anyone think about the possible repercussions that proudly shooting at humanoid targets could bring for us? It doesn't look like enough do. SCOTUS can reverse itself with 1 vote, and we haven't yet got the "bear arms" clause recognized on even the fedral level, much less has it been incorporated to include the states.

SCOTUS does hear the popular sentiment, despite whatever theory of justice you may have heard; they won't get too far ahead of the curve. Remember, 1 vote away from losing it.

The point is; have some nuance or subtelty, since being "in your face" is not a way to win friends & influence your enemies. Have a bit of "class" about this, although it may be hard for some. Having Class has nothing to do with having money, just look at Donald Trump (lots $, not much class. I know people who live in trailer parks who've more Class than Trump)  Anyone can do it if they can restrain their basest instincts.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I see it as a dumb move to be promoting/showing off targets in the shape of a person. Again, what will a non-gun owner or someone on the fence of gun ownership think about this? What is to be gained from this?

[Smallbore]

I do not think the general public gives a hoot one way or another about a humanoid target. Never heard one compaint about Bid Laden being on a target. Never heard a complaint from a movie goer. The only ones complaining are activist.

[colt-45]

i'd sell them no matter what, they don't have a face in them so whats the problem. all bad guys wear hoodies or gang's.

[mikew]

Sometimes I use playing cards as targets for 7meter use.

The range officer at the municipal range in Texas City, TX, admonished me for shooting at face cards. :-(

[lockman]

Whatever the likely threats to a carrier would be acceptable for target use.

As for how this looks to the public, if they are offended then tough. I am sic of phony "feelings" and "PC" crap.

I told my kids I don't care what the school policy is, if they sit with their legs folded at the ankles it is indian style, not "criss-cross applesauce".

This whole target thing is no different.

[belercous]

I was just sayin' & still am, that shooting at humanoid targets doesn't instill trust in the general public about gun ownership. They will use it against us, why rub their nose in it? ("Look, they're practicing to kill people!") Shooting at humanoid targets does gun owners no favors. Being "in-your-face" about it does even less. Is this so hard to see? It seems like gun owners can be their own worst enemy.

I understand that it's difficult for many to put themselves in another's shoes (see something from a different viewpoint, empathize, be objective, etc.), but if one can't see both sides of a disagreement or understand the opposition's "take" on a subject, one is setting themself up to lose the argument. If one doesn't understand where one's opponent's are coming from, how can the opposition's concern's be neutralized?    

If I can hit a paper plate at 13 yds. (my range's shortest outdoor target board) with a handgun I pretty much think I'll be able to hit a human at a closer distance. I don't need to advertise to the world that I might someday need to shoot a person (which I hope never happens).

I believe that some gun owners simply "don't get it" and this concerns me. I, as a CC advocate, look like a potential killer by association. Thanks guys. Being brash, bold, cocky & inconsiderate is not the way gun owners, much less CC permit holders ought to present themselves to the public. It doesn't win friends or sway minds. I view this as a matter of common sense, but perhaps I'm mistaken.

We've come pretty far on 2A rights since I've been alive, now is not the time to gloat & rub it in to those on the fence about gun ownership, and CC in particular. We need to consolidate our gains. Why can't we wait until all our goals are accomplished? It just seems to me as if we (gun owners) are like a 16 yr old who's just got his license who puts the loudest legal mufflers on his car, plays the stereo at max & takes 90 degree corners in town at the posted speed limit. Just because it's legal doesn't mean that one ought to do it.

Words which some gun owners & especially CC advocates ought to research are: tact, prudence, acumen & discretion.

Rant over. Nothing personal. I've got to get up for a heavy day of boating & beer drinking tomorrow.

[BigJim]

Does that mean the Osama targets (with face) I used to shoot at were offensive?  If the were, who did they offend other then people who supported Osama?