The State filed its motions to consolidate today and asking for an extension to file briefs. Their description of the issues is creative if nothing else: "prohibit carrying immediately-operable firearms in public". Lawyers should have a field day with that one!!
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Moore/Shepard 4/23/12 update...
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Posted 23 April 2012 - 03:31 PM
So, they would be ok if we carried muzzleloaders or flintlocks?
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Posted 23 April 2012 - 04:44 PM
they asked for an extension? Never saw that one coming
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Posted 23 April 2012 - 06:56 PM
Sigma, on 23 April 2012 - 04:44 PM, said:
they asked for an extension? Never saw that one coming
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Posted 23 April 2012 - 07:26 PM
Well they could have used the dog ate my homework excuse.......
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Posted 06 May 2012 - 06:38 PM
The state's extension request is denied. They're only getting one week extension, and it appears that both Shepard and Moore will be heard in the last week of May or the First week of June. Awesome, and super quick!
Order re: Motions to consolidate and extend time. The motions to consolidate are DENIED. Appellees do not need a formal order of consolidation in order to file one brief addressing two appeals. They may file one brief, or two, at their option. The motions for an extension of time is GRANTED, but only until May 9, 2012 (in both appeals). This should allow enough time to prepare a single brief covering the two cases. Appellees previously told the court that the two suits are functionally identical. There is accordingly no need for time beyond the 30-day extension already granted, and this one-week increment. The court’s last regular sitting of the current term is June 8, 2012. If the court were to delay the appellees’ briefs until June 1 or June 11 (the alternate dates appellees propose), that would postpone oral argument until next September, an unnecessary delay. Appellees must file their brief (or briefs) in both cases by May 9, and appellants their reply briefs by May 23. That will permit oral argument the last week of May or the first full week of June. [14] [6391925-3] [14] [6391925-2] JKL [6392901] [12-1269, 12-1788] (AM)
04/30/2012 16 NOTICE: Attorney Alan Gura will not be available for oral argument 06/01/2012, 06/04/2012, 06/05/2012, 06/06/2012, 06/12/2012, 06/13/2012, 08/07/2012, 08/08/2012. [16] [6393938] [12-1269]--[Edited 05/01/2012 by AB] (Gura, Alan
Order re: Motions to consolidate and extend time. The motions to consolidate are DENIED. Appellees do not need a formal order of consolidation in order to file one brief addressing two appeals. They may file one brief, or two, at their option. The motions for an extension of time is GRANTED, but only until May 9, 2012 (in both appeals). This should allow enough time to prepare a single brief covering the two cases. Appellees previously told the court that the two suits are functionally identical. There is accordingly no need for time beyond the 30-day extension already granted, and this one-week increment. The court’s last regular sitting of the current term is June 8, 2012. If the court were to delay the appellees’ briefs until June 1 or June 11 (the alternate dates appellees propose), that would postpone oral argument until next September, an unnecessary delay. Appellees must file their brief (or briefs) in both cases by May 9, and appellants their reply briefs by May 23. That will permit oral argument the last week of May or the first full week of June. [14] [6391925-3] [14] [6391925-2] JKL [6392901] [12-1269, 12-1788] (AM)
04/30/2012 16 NOTICE: Attorney Alan Gura will not be available for oral argument 06/01/2012, 06/04/2012, 06/05/2012, 06/06/2012, 06/12/2012, 06/13/2012, 08/07/2012, 08/08/2012. [16] [6393938] [12-1269]--[Edited 05/01/2012 by AB] (Gura, Alan
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Posted 06 May 2012 - 06:59 PM
TyGuy, on 23 April 2012 - 03:31 PM, said:
So, they would be ok if we carried muzzleloaders or flintlocks?
My old wheel-lock is seen as an assault weapon. Probably not.
Yas, on 23 April 2012 - 07:26 PM, said:
Well they could have used the dog ate my homework excuse.......
LOL! Or the machine's check bounced.
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Posted 06 May 2012 - 08:32 PM
Gray Peterson, on 06 May 2012 - 06:38 PM, said:
The state's extension request is denied. They're only getting one week extension, and it appears that both Shepard and Moore will be heard in the last week of May or the First week of June. Awesome, and super quick!
Great news!
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Posted 06 May 2012 - 08:36 PM
Molly B., on 06 May 2012 - 08:32 PM, said:
Gray Peterson, on 06 May 2012 - 06:38 PM, said:
The state's extension request is denied. They're only getting one week extension, and it appears that both Shepard and Moore will be heard in the last week of May or the First week of June. Awesome, and super quick!
Great news!
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Posted 06 May 2012 - 08:46 PM
Good, better than 2-3 years. I'm getting tired of the delay tactics.
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Posted 06 May 2012 - 08:55 PM
Even better, it appears that the 7th Circuit is getting tired of delaying tactics...
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Posted 06 May 2012 - 09:18 PM
This is the link to the actual file. It's tagged with 7th Circuit...
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Posted 06 May 2012 - 09:39 PM
More pressure on the legislature I hope.
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Posted 06 May 2012 - 10:03 PM
Gray Peterson, on 06 May 2012 - 06:38 PM, said:
The state's extension request is denied. They're only getting one week extension, and it appears that both Shepard and Moore will be heard in the last week of May or the First week of June. Awesome, and super quick!
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Good news, thanks Gray. I read it here first, thanks for your post. Now it's off to the races, to see whether it is your case, or Shepard or Moore or Woolard, or the others that will get cert at scotus. Thanks for your good work.
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Posted 06 May 2012 - 10:31 PM
Exciting times now for us !
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must file their brief (or briefs) in both cases by May 9, and appellants their reply briefs by
May 23. That will permit oral argument the last week of May or the first full week of June.
must file their brief (or briefs) in both cases by May 9, and appellants their reply briefs by
May 23. That will permit oral argument the last week of May or the first full week of June.
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 01:51 AM
Howard Roark, on 06 May 2012 - 10:03 PM, said:
Good news, thanks Gray. I read it here first, thanks for your post. Now it's off to the races, to see whether it is your case, or Shepard or Moore or Woolard, or the others that will get cert at scotus. Thanks for your good work.
My biggest concern is getting a good carry case up to SCOTUS, whether it be Moore or mine. This ain't about names, the cause matters more.
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 05:13 AM
Gray: Thanks so much for keeping us informed on this very important case. Thanks also, of course, for being plaintiff and for all the sacrifices that entails!
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 07:34 AM
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More pressure on the legislature I hope.
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:05 AM
Is this still at the level of the 7th?
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Is this still at the level of the 7th?
Yes. And it's judge Easterbrook... (good for us)
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 10:49 AM
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TyGuy, on 07 May 2012 - 09:05 AM, said:
Is this still at the level of the 7th?
Yes. And it's judge Easterbrook... (good for us)
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 11:00 AM
Maybe you are thinking about Wilson v Chicago. ISC remanded back to trial court on 2-615 motion.
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 11:11 AM
NakPPI, on 07 May 2012 - 09:55 AM, said:
TyGuy, on 07 May 2012 - 09:05 AM, said:
Is this still at the level of the 7th?
Yes. And it's judge Easterbrook... (good for us)
I don't really care that your message was sent from an SCH-I500 using Tapatalk 2 ... but I would very much like to know why you say judge Easterbrook is "good for us."
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 11:23 AM
GarandFan, on 07 May 2012 - 11:11 AM, said:
NakPPI, on 07 May 2012 - 09:55 AM, said:
TyGuy, on 07 May 2012 - 09:05 AM, said:
Is this still at the level of the 7th?
Yes. And it's judge Easterbrook... (good for us)
I don't really care that your message was sent from an SCH-I500 using Tapatalk 2 ... but I would very much like to know why you say judge Easterbrook is "good for us."
Wasn't Easterbrook the judge for Wilson? Or am I confused??
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RANDY, on 07 May 2012 - 11:00 AM, said:
Maybe you are thinking about Wilson v Chicago. ISC remanded back to trial court on 2-615 motion.
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GarandFan, on 07 May 2012 - 11:11 AM, said:
NakPPI, on 07 May 2012 - 09:55 AM, said:
TyGuy, on 07 May 2012 - 09:05 AM, said:
Is this still at the level of the 7th?
Yes. And it's judge Easterbrook... (good for us)
I don't really care that your message was sent from an SCH-I500 using Tapatalk 2 ... but I would very much like to know why you say judge Easterbrook is "good for us."
I'm not a fan. He's the guy who wrote, in McDonald, that the state could ban self-defense.
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I'm not a fan. He's the guy who wrote, in McDonald, that the state could ban self-defense.
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That was written when the second amendment didn't apply to the states. The 7th circuit was basically a pass through in McDonald because they couldn't make that leap before the supreme court did.
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Molly B., on 07 May 2012 - 02:53 PM, said:
GarandFan, on 07 May 2012 - 11:11 AM, said:
I don't really care that your message was sent from an SCH-I500 using Tapatalk 2 ...
You do know that is automatically inserted at the end of a message when using some apps and smart phones - right?
You can remove that from postings with your phone, but most people don't.
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Molly B., on 07 May 2012 - 02:53 PM, said:
GarandFan, on 07 May 2012 - 11:11 AM, said:
I don't really care that your message was sent from an SCH-I500 using Tapatalk 2 ...
You do know that is automatically inserted at the end of a message when using some apps and smart phones - right?
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