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Lemont (House District 82) Right to Carry Town Hall Meeting - Fri. Apr. 27


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#31 abolt243

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 12:36 PM



Don't know yet, but if he does I will be reminding everyone how important it is that we welcome him to hear
our side of the issue.

To attack or be rude to him will not work in our favor. I hope he will come and we can show him the people in
his new district support this issue!



No worry. I have been practicing holding my tongue. If he doesn't see the light and come to our side though we need to find an independent to challenge him in the general election!!!


And that's the way to take care of it. It's entirely possible that any of the reps that voted no on 148 a year ago are now having second thoughts. Lots of changes in the landscape and public perception of carry, not to mention that we are the very last state without. And WI just issued their 100,000th license, less than six months after going live with them!! Most people don't like to be pressured. Mr. Durkin may well be one of those people that simply dig in their heels the harder they are pushed. I'm thinking that treating him with respect and dignity while quietly explaining our position would be the way to go. "More flies with honey" approach.

If that doesn't work, then we'll talk about the election this fall if there's still time to get someone on the ballot.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 02:08 PM




Don't know yet, but if he does I will be reminding everyone how important it is that we welcome him to hear
our side of the issue.

To attack or be rude to him will not work in our favor. I hope he will come and we can show him the people in
his new district support this issue!



No worry. I have been practicing holding my tongue. If he doesn't see the light and come to our side though we need to find an independent to challenge him in the general election!!!


And that's the way to take care of it. It's entirely possible that any of the reps that voted no on 148 a year ago are now having second thoughts. Lots of changes in the landscape and public perception of carry, not to mention that we are the very last state without. And WI just issued their 100,000th license, less than six months after going live with them!! Most people don't like to be pressured. Mr. Durkin may well be one of those people that simply dig in their heels the harder they are pushed. I'm thinking that treating him with respect and dignity while quietly explaining our position would be the way to go. "More flies with honey" approach.

If that doesn't work, then we'll talk about the election this fall if there's still time to get someone on the ballot.

AB



I think that's the best approach to take. I get the distinct impression that he feels he knows what's best for his constituents. We have to be firm but polite as I wouldn't put it past him to vote "no" out of spite or stubbornness if we don't play our cards right.

On the positive side, I do think we are closer to getting a yes vote from him than we have ever been. First, his district now contains more of Will County than it had previously. Second, there are increased concerns about crime and violence in the area, particularly following the murder of Kelli O'Loughlin in Indian Head Park (in his district). When talking to Representative Durkin shortly after the O'Loughlin tragedy, I mentioned that my wife has to come home to an empty house fairly often. She deserves the ability to be able to choose how to protect herself. This argument seemed to gain the most traction with him, and he was clearly sympathetic to the concerns of women. I think our best strategy, if he is present, is to encourage the women in our lives to attend and participate in this discussion. It's a lot easier to, in effect, tell a 6'2" 250lb man that he doesn't need a gun to protect himself than it is to do the same to a woman, especially in front of a crowd.

I'm looking forward to this meeting. As for fliers, I've only been able to post at Bass Pro in Bolingbrook near the exit (management won't allow any other areas, I wanted the gun counter!!!), The Indian Prairie Library, Jewel on 75th and Cass. If anyone has ideas, please let me know. It seems several places (Caribou Coffee, Dominicks) have removed their bulletin boards and no longer have areas for public posting. Still have to check Starbucks, my gym, etc.

Edited by Ilannoyed, 20 April 2012 - 02:09 PM.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 03:25 PM

Rep. Durkin called today to say he is working closely with Todd on this issue and though he has a long-standing prior commitment and cannot attend, he is sending someone to represent him, to listen to our panelists and speak with us. I agree with Ilannoyed that it will be very important to have as many women there as we possibly can so that Rep. Durkin's representative can report back to him that this is very important to the women in his district.
"It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." --Samuel Adams

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 03:28 PM

We will be needing some extra hands and feet to help unload and set up equipment for this meeting and to staff the IllinoisCarry table.
We will begin setting up at 5:30 or so. Any volunteers??
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 05:33 PM

My Plane lands at O'Hare at 4:45 so I might not make it to setup but I will gladly help with cleanup.
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 06:21 PM

We will be needing some extra hands and feet to help unload and set up equipment for this meeting and to staff the IllinoisCarry table.
We will begin setting up at 5:30 or so. Any volunteers??


Again i will be there.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 09:50 PM

If I don't have to work, I'll be there!!
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Posted 26 April 2012 - 02:34 PM

Molly,
I am 99% sure that I can help with everything tomorrow. Setup, takedown, man the illinoiscarry table. Whatever you need. I will confirm tomorrow.
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Posted 26 April 2012 - 02:57 PM

Wonderful guys! Looking forward to seeing all of you!
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Posted 26 April 2012 - 09:37 PM

For those planning to attend the Lemont meeting tomorrow night here is the map to the center.

http://www.lemonttow... ... ding_1.pdf

google has not updated their map and this is a new area of town

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 08:09 AM

I am a definate will be there to help. If anyone is interested I will be having an early supper at Bass Pro. They have a great walleye plate and catfish too. I should be there around 4:30. I will be wearing a black baseball cap with CarrySafely.com on it in red letters.
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Posted 27 April 2012 - 08:50 AM

I am a definate will be there to help. If anyone is interested I will be having an early supper at Bass Pro. They have a great walleye plate and catfish too. I should be there around 4:30. I will be wearing a black baseball cap with CarrySafely.com on it in red letters.
Boog


Last night Molly B said to be there at 5:30 so enjoy your meal or go over to the quarries and catch some nice bass.

I will be there with my IGOLD hoodie and black staff hat.

Come on in and say HI

I may be outside directing traffic again tonight. It helped last night.

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 08:52 AM

I should have said I will be at Bass Pro at 4:30. That will give me time to eat and be at meeting by 5:30 to help
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Posted 27 April 2012 - 08:54 AM

I may be outside directing traffic again tonight. It helped last night.


Yes! It was very helpful! Would love to have you do a repeat performance tonight!
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Posted 27 April 2012 - 02:47 PM

I should have said I will be at Bass Pro at 4:30. That will give me time to eat and be at meeting by 5:30 to help
Boog

I won't be at bass pro. I gotta watch a horse race, but will be at meeting around 5:30
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Posted 27 April 2012 - 02:50 PM

My flight out of Dallas just got delayed several hours (after waiting in a hot plane for an hour) so I'm going to miss the meeting :-(

I was really looking forward to meeting some of the fine folks from this forum, especially Molly B.

Good luck everyone.
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."
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Posted 27 April 2012 - 09:37 PM

Unfortunately I got there about and hour and 15 minutes late - caught the last 45 minutes. Did I miss any thing spectacular???

Also, had a conversation with a visitor to the meeting. She stated she believed that our lovely Rep. Jim Durkin either was a supporter, or was supported by the Brady campaign??? Not wanting to start any rumors here. I did a quick search but couldn't find anything. Can anyone confirm???
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Posted 27 April 2012 - 11:14 PM

Great meeting, started with 125 chairs and had to add more - figure 150 + were there. Speakers all did a great job, lots of great questions at the end. All were encouraged/challenge to call their state sen. and state rep. first thing Monday morning. This was in the 82nd House District.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 10:11 AM

Rep. Durkin called today to say he is working closely with Todd on this issue and though he has a long-standing prior commitment and cannot attend, he is sending someone to represent him, to listen to our panelists and speak with us. I agree with Ilannoyed that it will be very important to have as many women there as we possibly can so that Rep. Durkin's representative can report back to him that this is very important to the women in his district.


I'm curious if Durkin really did send anyone??

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 11:06 PM

Lemont town hall meeting gets some press coverage!
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 11:08 PM

I'm curious if Durkin really did send anyone??


Yes, he really did. He sent his friend Attorney Patrick Walsh from Willowbrook.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 11:51 PM

That is great that they reported on it. Also glad to hear no one opposed it.

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 09:15 AM

Rep. Jim Durkin opposes it!!!
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