
Has Obama gone too far?
#1
Posted 18 March 2012 - 08:29 PM
Read her March 17 entry. Looks like the President has signed an Executive Order taking over pretty much eveything and can instill martial law during peacetime.
#2
Posted 18 March 2012 - 08:46 PM
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Read her March 17 entry. Looks like the President has signed an Executive Order taking over pretty much eveything and can instill martial law during peacetime.
Every President updates the sdme order during (usually) their first year in office. Here's is a copy of the 1988 Order signed by Prsiednt Reagan:
Executive Order 12656
This order is changed to reflect the changing needs of the country and/or the availability/non availability of assests and supplies. For instance i the 1988 version there is no reference to the Internet and starting with President (the first one) references to that were first taken into account.
If anything, President OIbama has been pretty law. This may be his last year in Office, he should have had it done at least two years ago.
If he had anything to hide, all he had to do was declared it "Secret" and not let anyone read it. he has issued several highly classified and undisclosed Executiove Orders and I would be very much more frearful of what they contain.
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#3
Posted 19 March 2012 - 03:36 AM
#4
Posted 19 March 2012 - 04:47 AM
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#5
Posted 19 March 2012 - 05:14 AM
He doesn't have the authority to suspend elections. He could try, but I don't think it would work out very well for him.I am about as anti-Obama as they come, but the conspiracy theories run rampant on theses forums. Do you really think BO will suspend the elections? Come on...
#6
Posted 19 March 2012 - 05:27 AM
He doesn't have the authority to suspend elections. He could try, but I don't think it would work out very well for him.I am about as anti-Obama as they come, but the conspiracy theories run rampant on theses forums. Do you really think BO will suspend the elections? Come on...
Given how many election authorities there are and that none of them work for him directly one would think it would not be real easy to directly do so.
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#7
Posted 19 March 2012 - 05:58 AM
Obama has neither the leadership skills or the support to attempt something like that. The military would not obey his orders and the populance would rise up in armed defiance.
That's not to say that something like that isn't possible but it's not with this president and this political climate. At best, all that could be achieved would be an open civil war.
Edited by BudMan5, 19 March 2012 - 05:58 AM.
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#8
Posted 19 March 2012 - 08:54 AM
If the thief is found breaking in, and he is struck so that he dies, there shall be no guilt for his bloodshed.
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#9
Posted 19 March 2012 - 09:05 AM
Yes sir. And if he gets another 4 years, he'll make pretty significant progress.But he can chip away little by little at the protections we have in the constitution like he is already doing.

#10
Posted 19 March 2012 - 09:13 AM
I have a feeling he's going to take over. I've been saying since he got elected that he will use some crisis, real or manufactured, to declare martial law and suspend the elections. As arrogant and narcissistic as he is, he's going to be very dangerous to the country if reelected or as especially as a lame duck because if he loses the election he's going to be really pi$$ed.
Four years ago we had people on this forum that insisted GW was going to do the same thing.

Didn't happen then, won't happen now.
I do not agree with BHO on much of anything, but the man is not a lunatic.
A bit of a fanatic in his ideology, but not crazy.

#11
Posted 19 March 2012 - 09:31 AM
I have a feeling he's going to take over. I've been saying since he got elected that he will use some crisis, real or manufactured, to declare martial law and suspend the elections. As arrogant and narcissistic as he is, he's going to be very dangerous to the country if reelected or as especially as a lame duck because if he loses the election he's going to be really pi$ed.
I had the same thoughts about W. I can't remember the particular laws that were passed at the time that prompted those thoughts, but there were some power grabs that really gave me pause, along with a lot of other Americans. When it comes down to it though, they're simply figureheads, they don't have the real power.
Arms are the only true badge of liberty. The possession of arms is the distinction of a free man from a slave. - Andrew Fletcher 1698
#12
Posted 19 March 2012 - 10:00 AM

Arms are the only true badge of liberty. The possession of arms is the distinction of a free man from a slave. - Andrew Fletcher 1698
#13
Posted 19 March 2012 - 10:34 AM
To acknowledge this, I think will help those of us who oppose the diminishing of liberty to appear less as conspiracy nuts and more like those who've become reasonably concerned with the direction of our Republic.
I use to think of any conversation was as a result of conspiracy nuts. I read Matt Bracken's book, "Enemies, Foreign and Domestic" which was about an out of control ATF conducting a plot directed at getting the citizens to approve the seizure of all guns in America and laughed at the impossibility of it. Well written book but ridiculous unbelieveable plot.
Then we all found out about Fast and Furious. The people that run the ATF and also the people in the Justice Department had that very intent with Fast and Furious
I think our way of life, the liberties that we enjoy here under a constitution that protects us from an out of control government is rapidly coming to an end.
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#14
Posted 19 March 2012 - 12:26 PM
... At best, all that could be achieved would be an open civil war.
lol... Well, that's reassuring , Bud
#15
Posted 19 March 2012 - 01:47 PM
http://barnhardt.biz/
Read her March 17 entry. Looks like the President has signed an Executive Order taking over pretty much eveything and can instill martial law during peacetime.
Every President updates the sdme order during (usually) their first year in office. Here's is a copy of the 1988 Order signed by Prsiednt Reagan:
Executive Order 12656
This order is changed to reflect the changing needs of the country and/or the availability/non availability of assests and supplies. For instance i the 1988 version there is no reference to the Internet and starting with President (the first one) references to that were first taken into account.
If anything, President OIbama has been pretty law. This may be his last year in Office, he should have had it done at least two years ago.
If he had anything to hide, all he had to do was declared it "Secret" and not let anyone read it. he has issued several highly classified and undisclosed Executiove Orders and I would be very much more frearful of what they contain.
In Section 201( b ), he added the words "under both emergency and non-emergency conditions".
Reason enough for me to he concerned.
Edited by Bill Matio, 19 March 2012 - 01:47 PM.
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#16
Posted 23 March 2012 - 09:17 PM
Edited by TriumphRider, 23 March 2012 - 09:18 PM.
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#17
Posted 23 March 2012 - 09:57 PM
#18
Posted 23 March 2012 - 10:16 PM
Mike Savage is a joke that everyone but him is in on.
Same can be said of one particular member here. (wink)
#19
Posted 23 March 2012 - 10:29 PM
Toodle-pip. (Triple bonus points if anyone can tell me where that originated from)
#20
Posted 24 March 2012 - 09:11 AM
& nudge, nudge, say no more, know what you mean mate. Appreciate your discretion, didn't see the need to call the bloke out by name, reality speaks for itself.
Toodle-pip. (Triple bonus points if anyone can tell me where that originated from)
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#21
Posted 24 March 2012 - 09:20 AM

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Have all boated who fish?
#22
Posted 24 March 2012 - 11:50 AM
Good riddance!
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#23
Posted 24 March 2012 - 04:34 PM
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