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Illinois General Assembly 2/29/2012

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#31 Steve O

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:00 PM

They will buy ammo in Indiana :thumbsup:
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“To prohibit a citizen from wearing or carrying a war arm… is an unwarranted restriction upon the constitutional right to keep and bear arms. If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of constitutional privilege.” [Wilson v. State, 33 Ark. 557, at 560, 34 Am. - 1878"]

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:01 PM

And there it is "anything against ammunition"

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:01 PM

How does Todd keep his cool?

Stopping ammunition is positive?
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:02 PM

View Postabolt243, on 29 February 2012 - 11:59 AM, said:

View PostJoeyl, on 29 February 2012 - 11:55 AM, said:

Hehe, hope they have an effect.

It's for the children!!!

did you hear arroyo??  Anything that limits ammo he's for!!
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#35 mauserme

    Eliminating the element of surprise one bill at a time.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:02 PM

Representative just stated he needs to read more about the bill but will "support anything against ammunition".
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:02 PM

:thumbsup:
"The more criminal the leadership of a country becomes, the easier it is for the average person to find himself labeled a criminal by that same leadership." ME

"A government that does not trust it’s law-abiding citizens to keep and bear arms is itself unworthy of trust.” James Madison.

“To prohibit a citizen from wearing or carrying a war arm… is an unwarranted restriction upon the constitutional right to keep and bear arms. If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of constitutional privilege.” [Wilson v. State, 33 Ark. 557, at 560, 34 Am. - 1878"]

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:02 PM

Favorably reported to the full house.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:02 PM

Man is this ever infuriating.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:03 PM

They reported the ammo bill favorably! Never even told the tally of the witness slips!  What a crock!

Edited by chicago guy, 29 February 2012 - 12:03 PM.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:03 PM

Senate Bill ###?  for handgun registration is up.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:05 PM

Firearm registration does NOTHING to stop illegal firearms.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:05 PM

I can't watch at work, but if cassidy is speaking, she is new and picking a gun issue as your first big push is probably a really dumb move... She has been lit up by media on this, as we all know.

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Stung by the result of McDonald v. City of Chicago, 130 S. Ct. 3020 (2010), the City quickly enacted an ordinance that was too clever by half. Recognizing that a complete gun ban would no longer survive Supreme Court review, the City required all gun owners to obtain training that included one hour of live‐range instruction, and then banned all live ranges within City limits. This was not so much a nod to the importance of live‐range training as it was a thumbing of the municipal nose at the Supreme Court.

#43 mauserme

    Eliminating the element of surprise one bill at a time.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:07 PM

View PostTyGuy, on 29 February 2012 - 12:03 PM, said:

Senate Bill ###?  for handgun registration is up.

HB5831

Edited by mauserme, 29 February 2012 - 12:07 PM.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:07 PM

getting mad...about lunchtime. I will probably be going in a few minutes...

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:09 PM

Processing applications within 30 days? you know just like the ISP does with FOID applications....RIIIIIGGGGHHHHTTTT.....

I know she didn't mention a specific time to approve applications...but still.

Edited by tricky1, 29 February 2012 - 12:10 PM.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:10 PM

It's pretty obvious Madigan stacked the Executive committee.  

He needs to be voted out.  

Or as John Kass said; give him the Moutza - NAH!
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:11 PM

If they do not already know who the last legal owner was, how do they know that most illegal guns come from within the state?

Edited by 4thestars, 29 February 2012 - 12:11 PM.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:12 PM

I'm out...I'll check back for the rest when I get back

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:13 PM

Why does she get all this time when they don't bother reading a single slip?
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:14 PM

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:15 PM

View Posttricky1, on 29 February 2012 - 12:12 PM, said:

I'm out...I'll check back for the rest when I get back


For the children!!
Are you a member of the ISRA?? If not, why not?? Join over 18,000 other Illinois gun owners in the fight for your rights!!!

The Roman Empire fell due to a large, corrupt government, overspending, an overextended military, insecure borders, and the illegal immigration of Goths, barbarians (anyone who was not educated), and religious fanatics. Sound familiar?


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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:20 PM

Still following along here

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:20 PM

If the ammo "sin" tax passes I am going to start buying ammo exclusively online just for the principal of the issue, or driving over the border to Indiana or Wisconsin. Saying that a lawful gun owner buying ammunition somehow causes inner city violence is not only moronic, it is downright insulting. Basically they are saying that by buying ammo I mine as well be a criminal. ####ING Illinois.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:21 PM

She can read her stats all she wants, but how does reporting my gun stolen keep it from being used in a crime?

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:22 PM

yup, I'll buy out of state too.

Come on housing market turn around.  I need to sell and get the heck out of dodge.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:25 PM

View Post4thestars, on 29 February 2012 - 12:21 PM, said:

She can read her stats all she wants, but how does reporting my gun stolen keep it from being used in a crime?


Seriously, is she saying that as a victim of theft, I would be the cause of the thief selling the stolen item used to hurt someone?

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:26 PM

Bingo!!!!
Are you a member of the ISRA?? If not, why not?? Join over 18,000 other Illinois gun owners in the fight for your rights!!!

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:26 PM

Hells YEAH!!!!!
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:27 PM

BOOM!  The Univ of Chicago said in 95 that the best way to reduce crime is CCW!

GO GET EM!
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:27 PM

Hells YEAH!!!!!  EDIT: Sorry, double post cause the site's a bit overloaded I think...

Edited by dnielson, 29 February 2012 - 12:28 PM.

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