OK ladies and gentlemen, here's a call to action.
Thanks to Ranger for bringing this new method of communication with our elected officials to our attention. If you look in post #12 of this thread, Ranger does a great job of explaining the process to electronically file "witness slips" to express your support or opposition to bills that are to be heard in a committee. Let's give this a try and see how many slips we can get filed between now and 11:00 a.m. Wednesday the 29th when the Exec committee meets. We'll not file slips in Ag in support of those bills, we feel they will get passed out without too much trouble. But, there are four bills in Executive committee that we should state opposition on: HB4149 = Private sale at FFL; HB4456 = Private sale at FFL; HB5167 = Ammo Tax; and HB5831 = Handgun registration.
Here's the procedure:
Go here, then > Hearings> Executive Committee> Wed Feb 29, 2012> 11:00 a.m.> "locate bill number"> create slip. This brings up the digital slip. Fill out all fields indicated with a red star. You can put "none" for Agency/Title or any others that don't apply. You'll want to check "Record of Appearance Only" at the bottom. Copy the security text at the bottom, I think it is case sensitive. Click "create witness slip". Click "Yes".
You're done!! You can then go back to the committee list and start over to create another slip for a different bill.
Let's get these done, pass the word!! Oppose HB 4149, 4456, 5167 and 5831 in Executive Committee! If you want to make a call to the individual members of the committee, that would certainly be appropriate to as long as it's done respectfully and in good taste!! But, if you don't have time to make all those calls, this is another way to voice your opinion to our elected officials. Let me know if you need help, if I've made a mistake or if you find an easier way!!
Sic 'em!!
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 09:44 AM
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 09:50 AM
Aren't witness slips primarily intended for companies and other organizations? e.g. so they can officially go "on record" regarding a particular issue?
They don't actually put any pressure on legislators, do they?
They don't actually put any pressure on legislators, do they?
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 09:52 AM
Mine are done!!! How about yours??
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The Roman Empire fell due to a large, corrupt government, overspending, an overextended military, insecure borders, and the illegal immigration of Goths, barbarians (anyone who was not educated), and religious fanatics. Sound familiar?
"..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.."
--Samuel Adams
Luke 11:21 - "When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed." NASB
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 09:53 AM
Done, Done, Done, and Done
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 09:56 AM
Done X4
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 09:56 AM
mstrat, on 28 February 2012 - 09:50 AM, said:
Aren't witness slips primarily intended for companies and other organizations? e.g. so they can officially go "on record" regarding a particular issue?
They don't actually put any pressure on legislators, do they?
They don't actually put any pressure on legislators, do they?
No, they are intended for anyone that wants to show support or opposition to the bill that is being considered by the committee. I've filled them out when attending the meeting in person, just to show my position and everyone is encouraged to do the same. We've run this by the people on the ground in S-field, it's another way to influence our legislators and those that sit on committees. The action of the committee members affect everyone in the state as they determine what bills are debated and ultimately voted on and which ones aren't. IIRC, the committee clerk tallies the witness slips and announces the totals during the meeting.
Besides, aren't corporations, companies and organizations people too??
Tim
Are you a member of the ISRA?? If not, why not?? Join over 18,000 other Illinois gun owners in the fight for your rights!!!
The Roman Empire fell due to a large, corrupt government, overspending, an overextended military, insecure borders, and the illegal immigration of Goths, barbarians (anyone who was not educated), and religious fanatics. Sound familiar?
"..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.."
--Samuel Adams
Luke 11:21 - "When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed." NASB
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 09:57 AM
All done. That was easy.
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 10:16 AM
Done...now time for my weekly call to Madigan's office.
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 10:22 AM
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 10:24 AM
What is HCA 1 on 5831? I opposed it, hope that's right!
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 10:32 AM
Cec, on 28 February 2012 - 09:57 AM, said:
All done. That was easy.
The wife and me are done as well!
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 10:36 AM
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Done and great job
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 10:43 AM
Stevepk, on 28 February 2012 - 10:24 AM, said:
What is HCA 1 on 5831? I opposed it, hope that's right!
Done x4
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 10:54 AM
Stevepk, on 28 February 2012 - 10:24 AM, said:
What is HCA 1 on 5831? I opposed it, hope that's right!
HCA 1 was where they lowered the fees. HCA1 It didn't change the evil concept, but made the fees $20 instead of $65. It's still a terrible bill, but now sligthly less so. I put "no position" on HCA1, since HCA1 does not make the bill worse. (Of course, I put "oppose" on the main bill, which is the point of this exercise.)
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 11:03 AM
Done just under the wire.
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 11:23 AM
Done and Witness Slip page bookmarked for future use.
Question: Is there a similar Witness Slip page for the Senate side?
Question: Is there a similar Witness Slip page for the Senate side?
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but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda,
they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles." — Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle
but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda,
they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles." — Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 11:28 AM
I would have done it but I don't have a computer.
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 11:32 AM
Buzzard, on 28 February 2012 - 11:23 AM, said:
Done and Witness Slip page bookmarked for future use.
Question: Is there a similar Witness Slip page for the Senate side?
Question: Is there a similar Witness Slip page for the Senate side?
Good question!! It doesn't appear that the Senate has set up the same system for their committees. To access this site directly, go to ILGA.GOV home page, under House click on committees. In the paragraph at the top of the committee listing, you'll find the link to the digital witness slips. That same link is not shown when you click committee under the Senate side.
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Are you a member of the ISRA?? If not, why not?? Join over 18,000 other Illinois gun owners in the fight for your rights!!!
The Roman Empire fell due to a large, corrupt government, overspending, an overextended military, insecure borders, and the illegal immigration of Goths, barbarians (anyone who was not educated), and religious fanatics. Sound familiar?
"..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.."
--Samuel Adams
Luke 11:21 - "When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed." NASB
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 11:33 AM
Xwing, on 28 February 2012 - 10:54 AM, said:
Stevepk, on 28 February 2012 - 10:24 AM, said:
What is HCA 1 on 5831? I opposed it, hope that's right!
HCA 1 was where they lowered the fees. HCA1 It didn't change the evil concept, but made the fees $20 instead of $65. It's still a terrible bill, but now sligthly less so. I put "no position" on HCA1, since HCA1 does not make the bill worse. (Of course, I put "oppose" on the main bill, which is the point of this exercise.)
Exactly right. HCA1 I believe stands for House Committee Amendment number one. They would have to approve the bill, then approve the amendment.
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Are you a member of the ISRA?? If not, why not?? Join over 18,000 other Illinois gun owners in the fight for your rights!!!
The Roman Empire fell due to a large, corrupt government, overspending, an overextended military, insecure borders, and the illegal immigration of Goths, barbarians (anyone who was not educated), and religious fanatics. Sound familiar?
"..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.."
--Samuel Adams
Luke 11:21 - "When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed." NASB
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 11:34 AM
202s, on 28 February 2012 - 11:03 AM, said:
Done just under the wire.
The hearing is tomorrow, so you have lots of time to get all your friends that don't post here to file their slips too!!
Tim
Are you a member of the ISRA?? If not, why not?? Join over 18,000 other Illinois gun owners in the fight for your rights!!!
The Roman Empire fell due to a large, corrupt government, overspending, an overextended military, insecure borders, and the illegal immigration of Goths, barbarians (anyone who was not educated), and religious fanatics. Sound familiar?
"..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.."
--Samuel Adams
Luke 11:21 - "When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed." NASB
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Eliminating the element of surprise one bill at a time.
Posted 28 February 2012 - 11:58 AM
Maybe you want to look at these bills too:
Business & Occupational Licenses Committee 2/29/12
HB4679 Firearm Dealers Security Act
Juducuary II Committee 3/1/12
HB3809 Gangs No Firearm
HB4457 UUW Enhanced Penalties
Business & Occupational Licenses Committee 2/29/12
HB4679 Firearm Dealers Security Act
Juducuary II Committee 3/1/12
HB3809 Gangs No Firearm
HB4457 UUW Enhanced Penalties
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that was neat! all done
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 01:01 PM
I would truely love to be a fly on the wall to see the reaction to all these slips. LOL
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 01:30 PM
papa, on 28 February 2012 - 01:01 PM, said:
I would truely love to be a fly on the wall to see the reaction to all these slips. LOL
I would imagine that we will have a "fly" or two there!!
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Are you a member of the ISRA?? If not, why not?? Join over 18,000 other Illinois gun owners in the fight for your rights!!!
The Roman Empire fell due to a large, corrupt government, overspending, an overextended military, insecure borders, and the illegal immigration of Goths, barbarians (anyone who was not educated), and religious fanatics. Sound familiar?
"..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.."
--Samuel Adams
Luke 11:21 - "When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed." NASB
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 02:14 PM
I suspect they will quickly tire of the onslaught and disable the service...
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Badda Bing badda Bang badda Boom... 4 slips submitted !
BTW, the form allows people from out-of-state to file a slip also.
BTW, the form allows people from out-of-state to file a slip also.
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 02:48 PM
This is an awesome addition....have to wonder though how long it will be before they turn the function off... Nice find...
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abolt243, on 28 February 2012 - 09:56 AM, said:
mstrat, on 28 February 2012 - 09:50 AM, said:
Aren't witness slips primarily intended for companies and other organizations? e.g. so they can officially go "on record" regarding a particular issue?
They don't actually put any pressure on legislators, do they?
They don't actually put any pressure on legislators, do they?
No, they are intended for anyone that wants to show support or opposition to the bill that is being considered by the committee. I've filled them out when attending the meeting in person, just to show my position and everyone is encouraged to do the same. We've run this by the people on the ground in S-field, it's another way to influence our legislators and those that sit on committees. The action of the committee members affect everyone in the state as they determine what bills are debated and ultimately voted on and which ones aren't. IIRC, the committee clerk tallies the witness slips and announces the totals during the meeting.
Besides, aren't corporations, companies and organizations people too??
Tim
Good to know, thanks. Mine are submitted in quadruplicate
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