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#31 Lou

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 10:05 AM

I doubt there will be much chance of actual news coverage, but maybe we can catch the attention of John Kass at the Tribune. I've enjoyed his pieces on RTC.


A plea for a few inches of column space was made to John KASS last week but I happen to know that her has an editor who kelps him on a leash - a long for sure but one who does have a lot of influence over what he writes.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 10:06 AM

CBS local news reports on the Monday, Feb 20 Logan Square at the end of this piece:

http://chicago.cbslo...ry-legislation/

Molly B. wrote that Radie, the woman interviewed by CBS news, will be one of our speakers tonight

http://illinoiscarry...showtopic=28979
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Posted 20 February 2012 - 10:43 AM

Mrs. FF recently purchased a projector for conducting training, but also for these events. She got a great deal on a folding screen, but it turns out the screen dimensions are 9' x 12'. Yep. Tried to figure out how it sets up, but it is too darn big even in our living room. Going to have to save this for outdoor events.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 10:48 AM

Will anyone there be selling gold I gold shirts? I need one (XXL) so I may grace you with my presence. I haven't attented a meeting in a while and I may bring a guest to hear this too. ;)

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 03:53 PM

Dropped off a bunch of flyers at a trendy/hipsterish Logan Square coffee shop. I would like to see some of their faces when they read the flyer. Wonder if any will be curious enough to show up tonight.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 05:57 PM

on my way...see you guys there!

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 06:19 PM

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 08:12 PM

WBEZ 91.5 NPR public radio had a one minute blurb featuring the Town hall meeting around 4pm this afternoon. It sounded favorable.


http://www.wbez.org/...west-side-96573


Gun rights advocates are conducting a town hall meeting in Chicago’s Logan Square neighborhood tonight. The Illinois Rifle Association and other gun rights groups are expected at the meeting. The groups say they aim to educate citizens on the right to carry concealed handguns in public and to gather support for a reintroduction of a concealed-carry bill in Illinois.

Illinois is currently the only state in the country that does not permit concealed guns to be carried in public.

Miguel Nogueras lives near the Logan Square neighborhood on the Northwest Side. He is among local residents who pushed for the gun rights forum after several violent incidents in the area.

Nogueras says he encountered a pointed gun twice--once right outside his own home. “The criminal element knows we are unarmed,” he says. He believes that concealed carry will level the playing field between criminals and victims and act as a deterrent for those who think about committing a crime.

“I think as we have more of those discussions, hopefully the citizens will rise up and push their elected officials to vote finally to allow for citizens to be able to defend themselves in this state,” said Nogueras.

A concealed-carry bill was introduced last year, and ended up six votes short of passing in the Illinois House.



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Posted 20 February 2012 - 08:57 PM

If anyone at the Logan Square Town Hall can read this, are there any TV crews there?

Edited by BudMan5, 20 February 2012 - 08:58 PM.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 09:07 PM

Any word yet how this went?

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 09:34 PM

Fox Chicago just had a short story on it with some video. From their video it does not look like it is well attended
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Posted 20 February 2012 - 09:47 PM

It ended just before 9, and CBS was there for a while, along with some other media whose identities I don't know. I'd say about 50-75 people were there.
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Posted 20 February 2012 - 09:51 PM

It ended just before 9, and CBS was there for a while, along with some other media whose identities I don't know. I'd say about 50-75 people were there.


What was the general tone of the meeting?

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 09:57 PM


It ended just before 9, and CBS was there for a while, along with some other media whose identities I don't know. I'd say about 50-75 people were there.


What was the general tone of the meeting?

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The tone was all positive. Although there was a Chicago police officer that tried to hijack the "question and answer" segment with a rant about Chicago politicians...
Stung by the result of McDonald v. City of Chicago, 130 S. Ct. 3020 (2010), the City quickly enacted an ordinance that was too clever by half. Recognizing that a complete gun ban would no longer survive Supreme Court review, the City required all gun owners to obtain training that included one hour of live‐range instruction, and then banned all live ranges within City limits. This was not so much a nod to the importance of live‐range training as it was a thumbing of the municipal nose at the Supreme Court.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 10:14 PM

There was a shout on FOX-32 as well. They didn't go into bash-em mode for some reason. It was actually a neutral report. They did bracket it with gun violence reports.

Edited by TFC, 20 February 2012 - 10:16 PM.

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Based on the restrictions on carry in Chicago/Cook County, I was right.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 10:25 PM

CBS just had a VERY short piece up, showing a few seconds of Radi talking, a quick crowd shot, and then they ended with saying the Chicago Police think there are already too many guns on the street.
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Posted 20 February 2012 - 10:28 PM



It ended just before 9, and CBS was there for a while, along with some other media whose identities I don't know. I'd say about 50-75 people were there.


What was the general tone of the meeting?

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The tone was all positive. Although there was a Chicago police officer that tried to hijack the "question and answer" segment with a rant about Chicago politicians...


I believe he was a precinct captain, and not a police officer, unless I missed that.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 10:33 PM

Yes, the tone was all very positive, no anti-RTC people to disrupt the speakers. Very, very intense crowd,
attentive and many stayed afterwards to ask questions and talk. The police officer I think was trying to make
a statement about what we are up against in this fight against the Chicago machine and how powerful it is.

I didn't get to count the crowd. I was hoping for 50-75 or so since this was more of a neighborhood type
meeting instead of our usual county-wide type meetings. I was VERY pleased with the turnout and with the
large number of news media who came. I'm sure different ones will pop in with the media they encountered.
A reporter with the Chicago Tribune was there. Univision ran the meeting as their lead story and broadcast live
from Logan Square. Several other neighborhood papers were there as well as some college media.

One thing I found very exciting was getting to meet some individuals who are very influential in the Puerto
Rican and Hispanic community who want to see more of these meetings throughout their community and are
willing to help make that happen! One gentleman paid for advertising on a prominent radio program.

Overall, a very positive meeting and have full confidence it will lead to further discussions and meetings in our favor!
"It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." --Samuel Adams

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 10:37 PM

I just got back from the meeting. I did a quick head count to the best of my ability and it looked like 85 people or so (including speakers and booth tables). I think the seats were about 1/2 full. Overall it was very positive but I would have liked to see the entire place packed. I must say it was rather loud in there, cool old building but with the creaky wooden floors and people around the sides talking while some of the speakers spoke. Maybe it was quieter up front but I was near the back. I saw 2 news vans parked out front and they were inside. CBS and some other. I stuck around until the speakers were done and a few questions asked. I saw a lot of familiar faces and that is good, but we need to continue to draw more new people in if we are to change opinions considering CCW here in Chicago.


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I purchased the 1st place winning ticket for the Springfield Handguns while there, but there is still hope for all of you to get that 2nd place ticket. :whistle: :thumbsup:

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 10:44 PM

You are mistaken, for Howard sold ME that 1st place ticket.
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Posted 20 February 2012 - 10:50 PM

You are mistaken, for Howard sold ME that 1st place ticket.


Ahem I see a theme hear, Hey Howard just how many "first place" tickets did you sell??? I know the meeting was in Chicago but still???
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Posted 20 February 2012 - 11:55 PM

It was very nice to see so many of you lovely people again tonight, as well as Otis McDonald and his wife, candidate Vincent Romano, our usual tireless second amendment superstars, and some very enthused area residents, who, on the whole, seemed pretty relieved not to find themselves alone in seeking second amendment rights. Some knew it will be a reinstatement of our rights, some did not know this and were simply glad to know there is hope and support for the end of being powerless.

The speeches were enjoyable; everyone brought something new to the table and, as our M.C. told us in closing, there was some good educatin' to be had (ok, I paraphrased --- she said she had learned a lot). Mind you, our M.C. had been a newswoman for more than 20 years ...

Radie's words and delivery packed a lot of punch. It would have been impossible not to be moved by her delivery, pace and eye contact as she related her experiences against men whose violence and physical power outpaced her own -- but not that of the firearm with which she capably defended herself.

Molly mixes calm and passion more magically everytime I hear her, allowing you to easily feel the terror of being unarmed and the sensibility of being seen as a human being with dignity by other states. She sprinkles this magic with common sense fact and, by the time she's done, careful listeners have learned a textbook's worth of how very different and ridiculous the laws and politicians of Illinois are in comparison to the rest of America.

Andre Queen is the kind of speaker to which toastmasters aspire. If we ever reach a point where there are no more Illinoisians left to train and certify, he could have a very successful career teaching public speaking.

This was the first time I'd heard Marie Queen speak, and the warmth of her personality comes through in most every sentence she speaks. Very easy for the women in the audience, especially, to relate to her words.

Mike Weisman was as engaging as ever. His style keeps the audience alert, with the nuances of voice and tone and volume he brings, and it's gratifying to have him on any panel, as I know he will always be abreast of the most recent events and news, and include them in his presentation with an eye on how they affect those of us who live here. Mike is one of those rare individuals who honestly has something in common with people of any race or neighborhood, and it is never long before those to whom he speaks feel the same strong level of comfort that he does in speaking with them.

Ed Arroyo, chief of police for the city of Hinckley, IL rounded out the panel of speakers. For (I believe?) 30 years prior to that position, he'd been an ATF officer. It was good to have him and his wealth of experience speaking out to the audience from the LEO perspective. It really put paid to the white shirt statements trotted out by the CPD -- whose blue shirted beat officers, as everyone knows, have been asking for citizen carry for years.

In fact, as echoed by one of the reporters at tonight's meeting, there have been noticeably fewer of these mouthpieces at each meeting, and fewer citizens quoting the misconceptions fed to us over the past few decades. Imagine: 30 years of misinformation taught to Chicagoans concerning firearm truths ... and in less than two years of the truth finally crossing our city border -- our citizenry are no longer accepting what they were once told. Ah, the power of relying upon our own eyes and ears!

All in all, I agree with Molly wholeheartedly: attentive crowd, great panel, eager residents, friendly newspeople -- and priceless volunteers!

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 12:02 AM

A note from Miguel Nogueras, the gentleman who invited us to host a community meeting in this neighborhood.

My interview with WBEZ regarding tonight's forum. I was surprised that WBEZ did a decent job reporting on our town hall meeting! Thank you Valinda, Mike, Paula, Illinois Carry, ISRA, and everyone involved for bringing the forum to our community, it had a positive impact that will continue to vibrate throughout the community for days, months, and years to come!

http://www.wbez.org/...west-side-96573


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Posted 21 February 2012 - 12:26 AM

It sounds like this was a great night. There may have only been 80 people there but those 80 people will each touch others. They will be sharing what they learned at this meeting and the word will spread even farther.

The dam has a crack in it and the flood is about to begin.

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 12:39 AM

Now we just need all in attendance that agree with our position to vote for those who ONLY also agree with our/Illinois Carry position!!!
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Posted 21 February 2012 - 12:55 AM

CBS just had a VERY short piece up, showing a few seconds of Radi talking, a quick crowd shot, and then they ended with saying the Chicago Police think there are already too many guns on the street.


How many Chicago LEO agencies have passed resolutions in support of ccw? 2 now?
"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks"
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Posted 21 February 2012 - 01:32 AM


CBS just had a VERY short piece up, showing a few seconds of Radi talking, a quick crowd shot, and then they ended with saying the Chicago Police think there are already too many guns on the street.


How many Chicago LEO agencies have passed resolutions in support of ccw? 2 now?


I believe the seargeants and lieutenants associations.

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 06:45 AM

This is the "top story" on fox Chicago this morning! They are showing clips of our beloved real estate agent speaking!

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Edited by NakPPI, 21 February 2012 - 06:46 AM.

Stung by the result of McDonald v. City of Chicago, 130 S. Ct. 3020 (2010), the City quickly enacted an ordinance that was too clever by half. Recognizing that a complete gun ban would no longer survive Supreme Court review, the City required all gun owners to obtain training that included one hour of live‐range instruction, and then banned all live ranges within City limits. This was not so much a nod to the importance of live‐range training as it was a thumbing of the municipal nose at the Supreme Court.

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 07:12 AM

My thanks to all who participated!

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 07:22 AM

It was am amazing event and I can not explain how impressed I was with Molly, Radie and the rest of the speakers. I mean truly an amazing job, presentation and impact, from all speakers at different levels.

I can not thank them enough for what they do. The time, courage and effort to put on these events and tell their stories is outstanding. It was also great to be among friends old and new.

Vince