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#1 Len S

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 06:07 PM

I am really torn on this. I would rather cut off my right hand than vote democrat. I will vote for whoever the republicans put up there just to get Obama out of office. My problem is that the republicans know that we will do anything to get rid of Obama and they are going to feed us what they want, not what is good for the country or someone who really believes in the constitution and what this country is about. What is the answer?
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Posted 19 January 2012 - 06:13 PM

Plain and simple for me. Whoever wins the Rep. nomination will get my vote when the time comes.

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 06:25 PM

I think the biggest fear is another Obama SCOTUS nomination. If one of the majority dies or has to retire an Obama pick has the ability to change the US as he promised he would do.

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 06:28 PM

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 06:50 PM

A.B.0


what is ABO?

I will vote for anyone running against Obama

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 06:54 PM


A.B.0


what is ABO?

I will vote for anyone running against Obama


ABO = anyone but Obama

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 07:42 PM

+1 ABO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted 19 January 2012 - 08:01 PM

ABO + a brazillion!!!!
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Posted 19 January 2012 - 09:04 PM

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 12:24 AM

Obama's won reelection, that's pretty well decided by now. Gotta love Romney for trying though. Too bad he's wasted his shot.

Thing is, Obama's reelection won't change the compostion of SCOTUS. The oldest members of the Court are left-wingers. Obama can only replace like with like. The last time a pres. was able to change the Court was when Bush (pere) got C. Thomas Justice Marshall's seat. He replaced a hard-core liberal with a hard-core conservative. Big coup for the GOP.

Justice Thomas has been able to avoid the label of "intellectual" as no one accuses him of putting too much thought into a decision. Funny how he never asks questions during oral arguments, almost like his mind was mase up from the case synopisis.

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 12:40 AM

Well there you have it. No sense in wasting our time to go vote. :wub:

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 12:48 AM

There are 3 republican candidates who will essentially lead to an obama win.
Those 3 candidates take key issues off the table, and give obummer an out on some of his biggest failures.

Dr Paul would be our best bet against obama. His platform offers more to everyone, and commands the independent vote.
When you look at his record, and compare it to the other candidates', he's also the most conservative candidate up there.

We've been playing the "lesser evil" game for way too long. Corruption is so rampant now, that we dont have any more capacity for evil.
Its go time now - conservative voters need to suck it up, and quit letting the media/corporate interests choose our candidates.
Yes, obummer is terrifying, but so are the other establishment candidates... Who supports NDAA? Who signed on to SOPA until the blackout? Trust me, the other candidates, they're ALL THE SAME.



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Posted 20 January 2012 - 08:31 AM

I will vote for anyone BUT Obama. He really is my generations Jimmy Carter.

That being said I strongly believe if we end up with the wrong republican in office it is going to be Bush Sr. all over again with someone like Hillary in the white house in 2016.

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 09:15 AM

Mitt Romney is an elitist snob, who scares me with his moderate perspectives. I think this Cayman Islands tax shelter thing will continue to blow up in his face, disenfranching many supporters. I worry about this guy the most.

Gingrich, sure the guy is entrenched establishment through and through, and definitely knows his way around DC. However, his personal charactor flaws I think are only the tip of the iceberg. He will bring record cronyism with his administration, as he pays back years of favors.

Paul seemed irrelevant. Sure he got his sound bites in, but it sure seemed he was left sitting on the bench as the outsider looking in for a chance to play. He's just missing the gumption to leverage his strengths and is just a little too radical for most people I think.

Santorum, He's looking better and better. While losing his seat certainly caused him to stumble out of the gates, the guy is pretty clean, has a solid conservative history, with few very very monor blemishes. With this IA finally tally, I think with a win in SC, he could really start making a big move. Imho, he's the best shot we have to someone trustworthy, responsible, and has demonstrated unwavering support to our conservative causes. I'm hoping he can continue to perform, as he would be the only candidate that I could vote for that wouldn't have me crossing my fingers for luck.

All my .02 fwiw.

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 11:03 AM

ABO, the country can't handle 4-more years with this moron at the helm.

The rejection of the Keystone pipeline was the final nail in the coffin.
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Posted 20 January 2012 - 12:43 PM

Paul or Johnson.

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 02:01 PM

Ron Paul and Barack Obama have the same stance on Iran, ignore it.

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 02:41 PM

ABO, the country can't handle 4-more years with this moron at the helm.

The rejection of the Keystone pipeline was the final nail in the coffin.



The people who live in the states where the pipeline was proposed, didn't want it. They're rightfully concerned about a leak/spill contaminating their aquifer. Considering that's prime US farm land, I think they're right to be worried.

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 03:12 PM

The people who live in the states where the pipeline was proposed, didn't want it. They're rightfully concerned about a leak/spill contaminating their aquifer. Considering that's prime US farm land, I think they're right to be worried.


Where is the concern over the hundreds thousands of miles of pipeline already running in the Ogallala aquifer?
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Posted 20 January 2012 - 03:18 PM

A. B. O. !!!!!!!!!!


Of course I'd like an actual conservative. But the stakes are so high; if Obama wins re-election, he likely will get to determine the U.S. Supreme Court composition, and will destroy what little is left of our rights. In addition, he hasn't yet fully committed his left-wing wackiness. He's done some much already while knowing he has to get re-elected. Once he is, there is nothing stopping his Socialism dream from coming true.
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Posted 20 January 2012 - 03:23 PM

Ditto on the ABO.

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 03:48 PM

I'm a Ron Paul supporter at this point. He's not perfect but he's asking the questions that need to be asked about the current state of this country. Questions Obama and Romney won't ask.

I always send this article to lefty friends when they ask about RP:
http://www.salon.com...paul_fallacies/

The author is a big lefty and very pro-Constitution - just anti 2nd I'm pretty sure...



The unfortunate thing is that no matter who we end up voting for in IL, all our electoral college votes are going to Obama.
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Posted 20 January 2012 - 09:55 PM

ABO ought to be a big voter-getter for independents come Nov. The GOP's slogan for `12 "At least he's not Obama" ought to attract all kinds of votes. I'd say let me know how that works out for ya'll, but the answer's pretty clear.

Still taking bets that Obama wins in Nov.

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 10:29 PM

ABO ought to be a big voter-getter for independents come Nov. The GOP's slogan for `12 "At least he's not Obama" ought to attract all kinds of votes. I'd say let me know how that works out for ya'll, but the answer's pretty clear.

Still taking bets that Obama wins in Nov.

It has already turned this independent off. But that isn't a surprise, same game as always. Whip up fear, present con-men, and rinse wash repeat.

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 11:01 PM

ABO ought to be a big voter-getter for independents come Nov. The GOP's slogan for `12 "At least he's not Obama" ought to attract all kinds of votes. I'd say let me know how that works out for ya'll, but the answer's pretty clear.

Still taking bets that Obama wins in Nov.

I'm not the gambling type, but I am willing to pledge a $10 contribution to IllinoisCarry if Obama wins reelection, as long as you pledge a $10 contribution to IC if ABO wins in November.

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 11:13 PM

STM; I'm not a gambler either, but I'm not gambling, that's why I offered the bet. But, you're on. Great idea, no losers, I like it.

Any other takers on the same terms? Even if you lose, we all win.

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 11:21 AM


ABO, the country can't handle 4-more years with this moron at the helm.

The rejection of the Keystone pipeline was the final nail in the coffin.



The people who live in the states where the pipeline was proposed, didn't want it. They're rightfully concerned about a leak/spill contaminating their aquifer. Considering that's prime US farm land, I think they're right to be worried.



Source please.

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 12:30 PM



ABO, the country can't handle 4-more years with this moron at the helm.

The rejection of the Keystone pipeline was the final nail in the coffin.



The people who live in the states where the pipeline was proposed, didn't want it. They're rightfully concerned about a leak/spill contaminating their aquifer. Considering that's prime US farm land, I think they're right to be worried.



Source please.


The Nebraska legislature, as well as the Governor, wanted to change the route. they didn't want it going thru their state. Other people in other states said similar things.

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 01:18 PM

The Nebraska legislature, as well as the Governor, wanted to change the route. they didn't want it going thru their state. Other people in other states said similar things.


When did the Governor of Nebraska or the Nebraska Legislature say that they didn't want the pipeline running thru their state? Trans Canada had agreed to reroute around the questionable sandhills region but I have been unable to find where they said the state was off limits in its entirety.

http://www.politico....ake-111473.html

Nebraska's Republican Gov. Dave Heineman, whose state is a key part of the Keystone XL oil pipeline debate, expressed his disappointment with the final decision the Obama administration made yesterday to kill the project.

"I want to say I'm very disappointed," Heineman told POLITICO. "I think the president made a mistake."

"Really what he was saying in denying the permit was 'no' to American jobs and 'yes' to a greater dependence on Middle Eastern oil," he said. "We want to put America back to work."

The White House has used Heineman as political cover in the fight, pointing to the fact that the original route approved by the State Department was opposed by Heineman for ecological reasons. He said that his Legislature and his administration were working to get the final approvals in place and that the State Department should have approved conditionally while Nebraska worked out the final route. The company seeking to build the pipeline, TransCanada, was perfectly willing to begin construction at either end and finish in Nebraska, according to Heineman.



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Posted 22 January 2012 - 05:28 AM

I will never vote for Romney. He is no more a friend to gun ownwers than obumma has been. Check his record and his past stances.

Also check his court appointments. Only slightly better than oba's record

If he gets the nod I will be voting 3rd party