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#1 Cratch

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 10:29 PM

Question..I am about to sell a small semi-auto on Gunbroker.I understand that I have to ship to the buyer's FFL.Can I use UPS or Fed Ex,do I have to field strip the gun.What our our laws? I have shipped several firearms back to the manufacturer,but the transactions were always set up by the manufacturer.
Would it be cheaper for me to have a local FFL dealer handle the shipping? Thanks in advance.

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 10:49 PM

Howdy,

I use the FFL for regular firearms, but when I ship C&R gun, I use FEDEX. I have provided them with my license & they bend over backwards for my shipments. I believe interstate firearm shipments must go FFL to FFL, but I not 100% positive about that. Good luck with your shipment.

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 11:18 PM

First you need to make sure the receiving FFL will accept a fire arm from a non FFL. If they will accept it direct from you.Just send a copy of your FOID with the gun. You do not need to field strip the gun if you use UPS or Fed Ex.
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Posted 14 March 2011 - 11:50 PM

Please triple check that the firearm isn't loaded...

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Posted 15 March 2011 - 12:37 AM

Thanks.Do I inform Fedex that there is a firearm in the package?

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Posted 15 March 2011 - 12:50 AM

Thanks.Do I inform Fedex that there is a firearm in the package?


I shipped a pistol to the manufacturer once for factory repair via FedEx. I disclosed that it was a gun. They were put off at first and then checked the regulations. It was allowable. It had to be shipped next day air. Ultimately... no problem. I presume the same would apply for shipping to an FFL. You must, I would think, make arrangements with the receiving FFL first. They may have knowledge of any other details.
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Posted 15 March 2011 - 12:53 AM

this explains all you need to know
http://www.gunbroker...aspx?faqid=1118
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Posted 15 March 2011 - 06:16 AM

Question..I am about to sell a small semi-auto on Gunbroker.I understand that I have to ship to the buyer's FFL.Can I use UPS or Fed Ex,do I have to field strip the gun.What our our laws? I have shipped several firearms back to the manufacturer,but the transactions were always set up by the manufacturer.
Would it be cheaper for me to have a local FFL dealer handle the shipping? Thanks in advance.


When I was looking into shipping a handgun it seemed to be a lot cheaper to send it via FFL to FFL. Going through FEDEX or UPS you have to use next day air which is very expensive. If you go through a FFL it cost the transfer fee plus about $15 to send it USPS Priority Mail.
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Posted 15 March 2011 - 11:09 AM

Interstate shipment does not require that the gun be shipped by an FFL. But, as noted above, it may be cheaper to do it that way if you have an FFL that will charge a reasonable fee and not gouge you.

You can ship via Fedex or UPS but Fedex requires priority overnight, their most expensive option. UPS is a bit more flexible. You still have to ship via overnight but they will accept your firearm for their cheapest rate which is Next Day Air Saver. In either case you must notify them that you're shipping a firearm. And, you cannot ship from a UPS Store or a Fedex Office or Fedex Kinko's. You have to ship from one of their hubs. There are a lot of geniuses on the various gun forums that like to brag that they ship via ground and claim that the shipments contain tools or machine parts. I can tell you from personal experience DON"T DO IT.

When I was young and foolish I shipped a S&W Model 29 via ground and did not declare the contents as being a firearm. It was either lost or stolen in transit and when I filed an insurance claim I was told where to stick it. It was bad enough losing an expensive firearm but that was nothing compared to the grief of filing a report with the local police and the ATF.

Here's a link to the FAQ section of the ATF's website that deals with unlicensed persons: http://atf.gov/firea...d-persons.html. Everything that you need to know can be found there.
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Posted 15 March 2011 - 01:20 PM

Thanks to everyone!

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Posted 15 March 2011 - 05:29 PM

It is costing me $45.00 on the Florida end for the seller to have his FFL guy ship it to my FFL guy. It's just a matter of both FFL guys sending and recieving each other's FFL license number.
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Posted 15 March 2011 - 05:40 PM

It is costing me $45.00 on the Florida end for the seller to have his FFL guy ship it to my FFL guy. It's just a matter of both FFL guys sending and recieving each other's FFL license number.


There's more to it then that.

FFLs have to keep records that are subject to inspection by the ATF forever. I think it is ten years but that might as well be ten years.

They have expenses including the NICS and licensing fees to the Fed goverent and in many cases, their local governments. they have to pay sales taxes nd other business taxes. If they have even one employee that brings up all kinds of different expenses.

All that hhas to be paid for by charging for services as well as goods.

Even a "hobby" FFL has expoenses and the aggravation of the ATF hovering over their heads.

Shop around, there are FFLs that do it cheaper. Our own Kenny of KapGuns only charges $20 per transaction for Illinois Carry members and he also only charges actual cost to shipa firearm via USPS (usiually about $10 for maiing "if it fits it ships" and another $8-$10 for insurance.

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Posted 15 March 2011 - 06:38 PM


It is costing me $45.00 on the Florida end for the seller to have his FFL guy ship it to my FFL guy. It's just a matter of both FFL guys sending and recieving each other's FFL license number.


Shop around, there are FFLs that do it cheaper. Our own Kenny of KapGuns only charges $20 per transaction for Illinois Carry members and he also only charges actual cost to shipa firearm via USPS (usiually about $10 for maiing "if it fits it ships" and another $8-$10 for insurance.


That's my add on cost for the Florida FFL guy to handle and ship it. I don't have any control over that.
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