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[Lou]

SB1963

In the bad column for me:

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Creates the Concealed Carry Permit Pilot Program Act. Establishes a 2 year pilot program based in the City of Peoria that allows the City to issue a permit to a resident of Peoria, who meets the qualifications provided in this Act, authorizing the resident to carry a concealed handgun within the boundaries of the City of Peoria. Amends the Criminal Code of 1961 to make conforming changes. Effective immediately.

We already have 48 pilot programs and they've been proven successful.  This would put of RTC for another 2 years!!!!

[Lou]

SB2026

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Amends the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act. Provides that a person who is not a federally licensed importer, manufacturer, or dealer and who desires to sell or transfer a firearm of a size that may be concealed upon the person to another person, who is not a federally licensed importer, manufacturer, or dealer, shall do so only at the place of business of a federally licensed firearm dealer. Provides that the federally licensed firearm dealer shall conduct a background check on the prospective recipient of the firearm and follow all other applicable federal, State, and local laws as if he or she were the seller of the firearm. Provides that the purchaser or transferee may be required by the federally licensed firearm dealer to pay a fee not to exceed $10 per firearm, plus other authorized fees. Makes exceptions for (i) the transfer of a firearm between spouses, a parent and child, or other family members, (ii) transfers by persons acting pursuant to operation of law or a court order, or (iii) transfers on the grounds of a gun show. Provides that the Department of State Police shall develop an Internet based system for individuals to request the Department of State Police to conduct an instant criminal background check prior to the sale or transfer of a handgun. Provides that the Department of State Police shall have the system completed and available for use by July 1, 2012.

If it's from Kotowski ya just gotta know it's in the BAD column.

[Federal Farmer]

Lou, on 10 February 2011 - 01:52 PM, said:

http://www.ilga.gov/...sionID=84&GA=97

I'm not sure how to classify this one: SB1910

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Provides that the unlawful use of weapons provision that prohibits the possession of any device or attachment of any kind designed, used, or intended for use in silencing the report of any firearm does not apply to or affect Full time peace officers of any duly authorized police agency of the State or of any political subdivision of the State who have received advanced, specialized training to deal with high risk incidents including, but not limited to, hostage or barricade incidents, or both, search and arrest warrants, and manhunts, and are serving as part of a Special Emergency Response Team (SERT), Tactical Response Team (TRT) or Special Weapons and Tactics (SWAT) team comprised of a group of officers. Effective immediately.

Since no device silences the report, means we are ok for suppressors now?  

[Lou]

SB2064

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Amends the Illinois Vehicle Code. Provides that the Secretary of State may suspend or revoke the registration of a vehicle or a certificate of title, registration card, registration sticker, registration plate, disability parking decal or device, or any nonresident or other permit when the Secretary has determined that a vehicle was used in violation of provisions of the Criminal Code of 1961 concerning firearms or in the commission of any felony under the law of any state or the federal government in which a firearm was used.

Another useless law.

[Lou]

Federal Farmer, on 10 February 2011 - 02:02 PM, said:

Lou, on 10 February 2011 - 01:52 PM, said:

http://www.ilga.gov/...sionID=84&GA=97

I'm not sure how to classify this one: SB1910

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Provides that the unlawful use of weapons provision that prohibits the possession of any device or attachment of any kind designed, used, or intended for use in silencing the report of any firearm does not apply to or affect Full time peace officers of any duly authorized police agency of the State or of any political subdivision of the State who have received advanced, specialized training to deal with high risk incidents including, but not limited to, hostage or barricade incidents, or both, search and arrest warrants, and manhunts, and are serving as part of a Special Emergency Response Team (SERT), Tactical Response Team (TRT) or Special Weapons and Tactics (SWAT) team comprised of a group of officers. Effective immediately.

Since no device silences the report, means we are ok for suppressors now?  

Shhh.  The trolls will amend the bill if they actually knew what they were talking about.

[45superman]

Lou, on 10 February 2011 - 01:57 PM, said:

SB1963

In the bad column for me:

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Creates the Concealed Carry Permit Pilot Program Act. Establishes a 2 year pilot program based in the City of Peoria that allows the City to issue a permit to a resident of Peoria, who meets the qualifications provided in this Act, authorizing the resident to carry a concealed handgun within the boundaries of the City of Peoria. Amends the Criminal Code of 1961 to make conforming changes. Effective immediately.

We already have 48 pilot programs and they've been proven successful.  This would put of RTC for another 2 years!!!!

I agree, and categorized it as "bad," but if the consensus is that it should be "neutral," I won't cry too loudly.

[Drylok]

Carry Bill

http://www.ilga.gov/...sionID=84&GA=97

[Drylok]

Another Carry Bill SB 2150

http://www.ilga.gov/...sionID=84&GA=97

[abolt243]

Drylok, on 11 February 2011 - 08:02 AM, said:

Carry Bill

http://www.ilga.gov/...sionID=84&GA=97

It's the pilot program for Peoria.  As someone has already said, we've got 40 other pilot programs for shall issue.  They're working fine, no need to "test" it in Illinois.  No state has repealed their carry law, and most have made them less restrictive over time.   This would only put off RTC statewide for another 5-7 years.  1 to get it set up, 2 in efffect, 1 to analyze it and then 2-3  more to pass and set up statewide.

Pass it for the state, then Peoria and everyone else will have it.  

AB

[ishmo]

abolt243, on 11 February 2011 - 08:08 AM, said:

Drylok, on 11 February 2011 - 08:02 AM, said:

Carry Bill

http://www.ilga.gov/...sionID=84&GA=97

It's the pilot program for Peoria. As someone has already said, we've got 40 other pilot programs for shall issue. They're working fine, no need to "test" it in Illinois. No state has repealed their carry law, and most have made them less restrictive over time. This would only put off RTC statewide for another 5-7 years. 1 to get it set up, 2 in efffect, 1 to analyze it and then 2-3 more to pass and set up statewide.

Pass it for the state, then Peoria and everyone else will have it.

AB

+1 there AB. We need to focus on getting a preemptive RTC bill passed this year. We can improve it later as other states have done and the anti's can analyze it all they want afterwards for as long as they want.

[45superman]

Thanks guys.  Of the latest bunch, the only ones I hadn't added yet were SB 2275, SB 2298, and SB 2300.  I decided against adding SB 2275, because I don't see how it affects anyone but parole/corrections agents.  2298 and 2300 are in the shell bills category.

[Drylok]

My bad on the pilot carry bill. That's what I get for glancing and not reading. Agreed that would be a retarded way of going about it

[Lou]

45,

I would also add SB2301 to shell bills to watch.  It's by Cullerton and I just don't trust him:

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Amends the Criminal Code of 1961. Makes a technical change in a Section concerning the use of force in defense of a person.

Sounds like they might want to undo stand your ground laws.

[45superman]

Agreed, Lou.  Added.

[mstrat]

Another CCW bill. And a reactionary bill to the AZ shooting.

For those that think the latter might be a good idea, let me caution you.  I've taught, my girlfriend is a teacher... and let me say: Kids are OFTEN "flagged" as behaving erratically, or a potential danger, etc - so that teachers can keep a close eye on them for their own good.  They're teenagers! Of course they're a little crazy.  They're under immense social pressure, and are figuring out who they are and developing their identities.

How many of you got into a fist fight in school? Or did unusually bad on your school works for a week or two because you were going through a breakup, or some other bad time?  You would be fingered by teachers and administration as someone to keep an eye one. This is a good thing; it helps ensure the loving adults in their lives pay special attention to the kids who need it most at any given time.

But we cannot - Must not let the revocation of fundamental rights be based upon a teacher or administrator's observance of teenager's "erratic" behavior.

From an adolescent psychology and developmental standpoint, it's perfectly normal to be out-of-line . The overwhelming majority of these teenagers will grow up to be perfectly healthy, rational adults. "Erratic" behavior during adolescence does not mean the person will be mentally unstable in later life.

For every 1 Tuscon shooter this law would keep firearms from, millions of peoples' rights will be infringed.

The bill states that the school would decide whose names to send to the state police - but public schools would, to cover their ass, be unofficially forced to report every single tiny incident to prevent later lawsuits. This would give the state the green light to confiscate firearms and revoke FOID cards for countless law-abiding, mentally stable, tax paying, productive citizens.

HB  1403 - CONCEALED CARRY-PERMITS - B. Mitchell ( R ), A. Brown ( R),  W Rosenthal ( R )
Creates the Family and Personal Protection Act. Permits the Department of State Police to issue permits to carry concealed firearms to persons at least 21 years of age who meet certain requirements. Provides that the county sheriff shall evaluate the application and accompanying material, and within 30 calendar days transmit the application, accompanying material, and any objections to the application, and application fees to the Department of State Police. Requires an applicant for a permit to have completed specified training requirements developed by the Illinois Law Enforcement Training Standards Board consisting of classroom instruction and live firing exercises. Preempts home rule. Amends the Illinois Police Training Act and the Criminal Code of 1961 to make conforming changes. Effective immediately.

HB 1461 - FIREARM OWNERS ID-REVOKE - W Cunningham (D)
Amends the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act. Provides that the Department of State Police may deny an application for or revoke and seize a Firearm Owner's Identification Card previously issued under the Act to a student or former student of a secondary school or institution of higher learning who has been identified by the administration of that school or institution as a person who has acted in a mentally erratic or violent nature while enrolled, thereby creating a possible threat to the safety of the student body, faculty, or staff of the school or institution. Provides that the administration of a secondary school or institution of higher learning may report to the Department of State Police the name and address of a student or former student who has acted in a mentally erratic or violent nature while enrolled. Provides that the Department of State Police may use such information to determine whether to deny an application for or to revoke and seize the student or former student's Firearm Owner's Identification Card. Provides that the administration of a secondary school or an institution of higher learning that reports the name and address of a student or former student to the Department of State Police as having acted in a mentally erratic or violent nature while enrolled are presumed to have acted in good faith and are immune from civil or criminal liability for making such report and the consequences of such report.

[45superman]

Thanks, I had already had HB 1403, but hadn't seen the HB 1461 idiocy.  Added.

[Lou]

I'd say HB1514 belongs in the good column:

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Synopsis As Introduced
Amends the Criminal Code of 1961. Provides that the waiting period for withholding delivery of a firearm after application for its purchase has been made does not apply to the transfer of an operable firearm in exchange for another operable firearm. Effective immediately.

[45superman]

Lou, on 15 February 2011 - 12:23 PM, said:

I'd say HB1514 belongs in the good column:

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Synopsis As Introduced
Amends the Criminal Code of 1961. Provides that the waiting period for withholding delivery of a firearm after application for its purchase has been made does not apply to the transfer of an operable firearm in exchange for another operable firearm. Effective immediately.

Yep.  Added.

Thanks, and good work.

[mstrat]

I don't know whether we even want to track this.  I have a feeling there is probably split views among us on support of this:
HB1599 - CRIM CD-ASSAULT WEAPONS - E. Acevedo (D)
Amends the Criminal Code of 1961 relating to unlawful use of weapons. Increases the penalties by one class if a semi-automatic assault weapon or high capacity ammunition was possessed in the commission of the offense. Defines "semi-automatic assault weapon" and "high capacity ammunition". Effective immediately.

Also not sure if we want to track these. They're regarding "arms", just not firearms:
HB1602 - WILDLIFE-PERMITS FOR CROSSBOW - Riley (D)
Amends the Wildlife Code. Provides that a person applying for a crossbow permit to hunt deer must (rather than will) be issued a permit by the Director after the receipt of a physician's statement confirming the applicant is handicapped. Effective immediately.

HB1603 - WILDLIFE-DEER CROSSBOW HUNTING - Riley (D)
Amends the Wildlife Code. Removes language limiting the use of crossbows to hunt deer during the open season for bow and arrow set annually by the Director to handicapped persons and persons age 62 or older. Effective immediately.

[mstrat]

Not sure if this has been discussed already, and also not sure if it's something we want to track (personally, i think it's disgusting as it further divides the nobles from the serfs):

SB2152 - CRIM CD-UNLAW WEAPONS-EXEMPT - McCann ( R )
Amends the Criminal Code of 1961. Provides that certain exemptions from violation of the statute concerning unlawful use of weapons and the statute concerning aggravated unlawful use of a weapon apply to the elected or appointed State's Attorney of a county as well as to a special investigator appointed by the State's Attorney under the Counties Code so long as they successfully complete a course consisting of not less than 40 hours of training that includes the theory of law enforcement, liability for acts, and the handling of weapons (rather than just to the special investigators). Effective immediately.

[Lou]

HB1696


Related to hunting:

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Synopsis As Introduced
Amends the Wildlife Code. Repeals the provision concerning the pheasant fund. Makes corresponding changes. Amends the State Finance Act and makes corresponding changes. Effective January 1, 2012.

Do we want to track these too?

[Lou]

HB 1708

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Amends the Criminal Code of 1961. Provides that the offense of unlawful use of weapons relating to the possession of any device or attachment of any kind designed, used, or intended for use in silencing the report of a firearm and the offense of aggravated discharge of a machine gun or a firearm equipped with a device designed or used for silencing the report of a firearm do not apply to a peace officer while serving as a member of a tactical response team or special operations team. Provides that a peace officer may not personally own or apply for ownership of a device or attachment of any kind designed, used, or intended for use in silencing the report of any firearm. Provides that these devices shall be owned and maintained by lawfully recognized units of government whose duties include the investigation of criminal acts.

Those evil "silencers"

[45superman]

Thanks, guys.  I categorized HB 1599 as "bad," didn't bother with the crossbow hunting bills, called SB 2152 as "bad," for the same reasons you don't like it, Mstrat, and categorized the suppressor one as "neutral."

If anyone disagrees with my assessments, let me know.

[Lou]

HB1781

This is a shell bill so it is hard to say what the intent is.  Does anyone know Jack Franks?

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Synopsis As Introduced
Amends the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act. Makes a technical change in the Section relating to grounds for denying an application for and for revoking and seizing a Firearm Owner's Identification Card.

[Lou]

HB1724

A hunting bill.  I don't know if this is good or bad.  Anyone??

Synopsis As Introduced

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Amends the Wildlife Code. Provides for the hunting and trapping of river otters. Provides that the season limit for river otter shall not exceed 5 river otters per person per season. Provides that possession limits shall be 10 per person per season limit except that this restriction shall not apply to fur buyers, tanners, manufacturers, and taxidermists. Requires that the pelts of river otters shall be tagged in accordance with federal regulations. Provides that the Department may require harvest registration and set forth procedures, fees for registration, and the process of tagging pelts in administrative rules. Sets fees for registration and tagging shall not exceed $5 per pelt. Effective immediately.

[Lou]

HB1782

Another FOID shell bill by Jack Franks

Synopsis As Introduced

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Amends the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act. Makes a technical change in a Section concerning a legislative declaration.

[Lou]

HB1855

I think this can be put in the bad column.  Seems about par for the course coming from Acevedo.

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Amends the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act. Provides that the Department of State Police may revoke and seize a Firearm Owner's Identification Card previously issued under the Act of a person who fails to report the loss or theft of a handgun a second time to the local law enforcement agency within 72 hours after obtaining knowledge of the second loss or theft. Amends the Criminal Code of 1961. Provides that if a person who possesses a valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card and who possesses or acquires a handgun thereafter loses or misplaces the handgun, or if the handgun is stolen from the person, the person must report the loss or theft to the local law enforcement agency within 72 hours after obtaining knowledge of the loss or theft. Effective immediately.

[Lou]

HB1871

CRIM CD-LG CAPACITY AMMUNITION


Bad column:

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Amends the Criminal Code of 1961. Provides that beginning 90 days after the effective date of this amendatory Act, it is unlawful for any person within this State to knowingly manufacture, deliver, sell, purchase, or possess or cause to be manufactured, delivered, sold, purchased, or possessed a large capacity ammunition feeding device. Provides that these provisions do not apply to a person who possessed a prohibited weapon, device, or attachment before the effective date of this amendatory Act. Provides that on or after the effective date of this amendatory Act, such person may transfer such device only to an heir, an individual residing in another state maintaining that device in another state, or a dealer licensed as a federal firearms dealer. Specifies penalties for violations. Provides exemptions. Provides that the provisions of the Act are severable. Effective immediately.

[Lou]

HB1906

Another bad bill

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Creates the Handgun Dealer Licensing Act. Provides for the regulation of handgun dealers through licensure by the Department of State Police. Provides that no person may sell or otherwise transfer, expose for sale or transfer, or have in his or her possession with the intent to sell or transfer any concealable firearm without being licensed under the Act. Provides, however, that the prohibition does not apply to a person who makes occasional sales, exchanges, or purchases of concealable firearms for the enhancement of a personal collection or as a hobby, or who sells all or part of his or her personal collection of firearms. Sets forth provisions concerning application, fees, duration of licensure, license retention requirements, submissions to the Department, penalties, revocation, and suspension. Grants rulemaking authority to the Department and provides that for the purpose of determining compliance with the Act, the Act may be enforced by any municipality in which a licensee is located or, if a licensee is not located in a municipality, by the county in which a licensee is located. Effective immediately.

[Federal Farmer]

Bad - HB1906 Handgun Dealer Licensing Act.

Bad - HB1871 - High Cap Magazines.