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#1 Kenny

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 12:05 PM

The Winnebago Cty. States Attorney Joe Bruscatto has agreed to speak. I will call out to Giovanni's today & may be able to get the ball room. I will work on getting more speakers too.

I just talked to Joe CastroGiovanni and he will gladly donate the Ballroom at Giovanni's he is looking for dates that it is open in the next month or 2 I will post dates here when I get them. Man this is kind of easy to set up so far.


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Posted 08 April 2010 - 12:18 PM

View PostKenny, on 08 April 2010 - 12:05 PM, said:

The Winnebago Cty. States Attorney Joe Bruscatto has agreed to speak. I will call out to Giovanni's today & may be able to get the ball room. I will work on getting more speakers too.

I just talked to Joe CastroGiovanni and he will gladly donate the Ballroom at Giovanni's he is looking for dates that it is open in the next month or 2 I will post dates here when I get them. Man this is kind of easy to set up so far.

Careful! Don't jinx yourself.

Let me know how I can help.
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes,
but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda,
they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."  — Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 12:26 PM

View PostBuzzard, on 08 April 2010 - 12:18 PM, said:

View PostKenny, on 08 April 2010 - 12:05 PM, said:

The Winnebago Cty. States Attorney Joe Bruscatto has agreed to speak. I will call out to Giovanni's today & may be able to get the ball room. I will work on getting more speakers too.

I just talked to Joe CastroGiovanni and he will gladly donate the Ballroom at Giovanni's he is looking for dates that it is open in the next month or 2 I will post dates here when I get them. Man this is kind of easy to set up so far.

Careful! Don't jinx yourself.

Let me know how I can help.

When I get a date you can pass out flyers & hang them at Schryver's for me!!


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Posted 08 April 2010 - 12:33 PM

Think we can get Mr. Vandermyde to come?

(And hopefully hang out awhile afterwards.)
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes,
but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda,
they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."  — Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 12:36 PM

View PostKenny, on 08 April 2010 - 12:26 PM, said:

View PostBuzzard, on 08 April 2010 - 12:18 PM, said:

View PostKenny, on 08 April 2010 - 12:05 PM, said:

The Winnebago Cty. States Attorney Joe Bruscatto has agreed to speak. I will call out to Giovanni's today & may be able to get the ball room. I will work on getting more speakers too.

I just talked to Joe CastroGiovanni and he will gladly donate the Ballroom at Giovanni's he is looking for dates that it is open in the next month or 2 I will post dates here when I get them. Man this is kind of easy to set up so far.

Careful! Don't jinx yourself.

Let me know how I can help.

When I get a date you can pass out flyers & hang them at Schryver's for me!!

I'm sorry, the wife doesn't allow me to date other people,

but I'd be glad to hang up flyers.
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes,
but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda,
they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."  — Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle

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Posted 09 April 2010 - 08:13 AM

We have the Banquet room for Wed May 26th!! i will try to get some specifics here shortly.


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Posted 10 April 2010 - 08:58 AM

Date: Wednesday May 26th 7-??

Date: Giovanni's
      610 North Bell School Road
      Rockford, IL 61107-5202
      (815) 398-6411

Speakers: Valinda Rowe ------IllinoisCarry spokesperson            (confirmed)
          Todd Vandermyde----NRA Lobbyist                          (maybe)
          Joe Bruscatto  ----Winnebago County States Attorney -----(confirmed)
          Jason Plummer -----Candidate for LT Governor ------------(maybe)
          Mike Weisman ------ Vice President of the ISRA ----------(I need to talk to him)

I am working on lining up other speakers, anybody have any ideas?

Do we want the Sheriff & his opponent to speak? they are both pro carry.
How about Dave Syverson? Dave Winters?


I plan on inviting all the politicians that are running for office & giving them time on the mic (rhetoric limited to RTC topic) after the speakers are done. depending on how many show up we will limit their time on the mic. I will invite Brady & Quinn and all others as well.


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Posted 10 April 2010 - 09:24 AM

You gonna have time for all those speakers??
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes,
but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda,
they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."  — Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle

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Posted 10 April 2010 - 09:32 AM

View PostBuzzard, on 10 April 2010 - 09:24 AM, said:

You gonna have time for all those speakers??


There are only 2 confirmed, the rest I am asking for input who we should have?

We have the ballroom until midnight.


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Posted 10 April 2010 - 10:30 AM

I'd love to hear Sen. Dave Syverson tell his version of sitting on the Public Health committee and answering to Sen. Ira Silverstein's comment that "Twenty one states have a mandatory bicycle helmet law. Why shouldn't Illinois?" I'd bet it would get a HUGE cheer from the audience! It sure did in that Capital Public Health committee meeting!! You should ask him.

Just remind him it was Sen. Ira Silverstein's mandatory bicycle helmet law - SB2627.

You can read my version here.

And try to get Todd there so we can hang later.
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes,
but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda,
they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."  — Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle

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Posted 10 April 2010 - 11:20 AM

Posted on the IllinoisCarry Community Calendar.
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes,
but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda,
they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."  — Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle

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Posted 10 April 2010 - 08:50 PM

Here is a link to the Facebook event so you can pass it around to all your friends.

http://www.facebook....59247924&ref=nf


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Posted 11 April 2010 - 03:12 PM

Wednesday? poop. I was hoping for a Sunday when I'd have a night off...

I'll see if the company can cut me a vacation day then. I figure with speakers, you need someone in the audience, right?

Politicos speaking would be good, but the dream-team would be Mr O McDonald and the Chicago pres of CORE. (happily imagining all the Chicago based uber-control-freak's heads melting hearing that on the news....heh heh heh)

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 07:43 AM

Here is the official flyer. print it & hang it up everywhere you can. Buzz I will let you get Schryver's, it will save me an hour & a half drive. I will drop them at Gander Mtn, Dicks, MC Sports, Bullet Stop & Gilmore's.

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Posted 29 April 2010 - 10:35 AM

Here is the Winnebago county Town hall Meeting Press release. If anybody wants to help with the organization & planning feel free to call me. Anybody can print out the flyers & post them anywhere.

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 06:51 AM

Winnebago County residents are being invited to participate in a Town Hall Meeting
intended to raise awareness and support for the passage of Right to Carry legislation in
Illinois. The Town Hall Meeting will be held Wed. May 26, 2010 from 7:00 - 9:00 pm,
at Giovanni's Convention Center, 610 North Bell School Road, Rockford, IL.

See you there tonight!!


"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes,
but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda,
they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."  — Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 07:59 AM

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 09:16 AM

View PostKenny, on 26 May 2010 - 07:59 AM, said:

Should have said you are expecting 2 or 3 hundred. Other than that good job!
"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks"
-Thomas Jefferson-

Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
-Aaron Lewis-

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 02:46 PM

Come on, DL...you sound like one of those parents that, after the 3rd and 3 play is over (unsuccessful) states, "What he should've called was..."

Good job, Kenny!!!
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Posted 27 May 2010 - 06:16 AM

View PostOl, on 26 May 2010 - 02:46 PM, said:

Come on, DL...you sound like one of those parents that, after the 3rd and 3 play is over (unsuccessful) states, "What he should've called was..."

Good job, Kenny!!!
lol Well I just know the media will remember his estimate and then when there's 500 in attendance they'll say "gee they didn't get near as many as they expected"

So how did it go?
"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks"
-Thomas Jefferson-

Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
-Aaron Lewis-

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Posted 27 May 2010 - 07:03 AM

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Posted 27 May 2010 - 07:05 AM

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Posted 27 May 2010 - 07:09 AM

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Posted 27 May 2010 - 12:01 PM

Last night at the Winnebago Co. RTC Town Hall Meeting, a show of hands clearly showed that it was mostly gun owners in attendance. It was also determined that a large percentage of the audience were visitors to this site. While that is good, it was also conceded that the evenings speakers were "preaching to the choir."

I got the same impression when I organized the Ogle Co. Concealed Carry Town Hall Meeting over a year ago. We seem to only get gun owners in attendance at these meetings with very few people that aren't already quite familiar with concealed carry and how it works.

I suggest we need to improve on our promotion of these events. If we want to increase our numbers, we need to start looking in new places. We need to get more fliers out to public places besides just the gun shops. Supermarkets, accounting offices, hairdressers and barber shops. Any place where law-abiding people do their business.

In other words, if we only post fliers in the choir room, then we shouldn't be surprised when only the choir shows up to sing praises to concealed carry.
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes,
but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda,
they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."  — Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle

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Posted 27 May 2010 - 12:20 PM

View PostBuzzard, on 27 May 2010 - 12:01 PM, said:

Last night at the Winnebago Co. RTC Town Hall Meeting, a show of hands clearly showed that it was mostly gun owners in attendance. It was also determined that a large percentage of the audience were visitors to this site. While that is good, it was also conceded that the evenings speakers were "preaching to the choir."

I got the same impression when I organized the Ogle Co. Concealed Carry Town Hall Meeting over a year ago. We seem to only get gun owners in attendance at these meetings with very few people that aren't already quite familiar with concealed carry and how it works.

I suggest we need to improve on our promotion of these events. If we want to increase our numbers, we need to start looking in new places. We need to get more fliers out to public places besides just the gun shops. Supermarkets, accounting offices, hairdressers and barber shops. Any place where law-abiding people do their business.

In other words, if we only post fliers in the choir room, then we shouldn't be surprised when only the choir shows up to sing praises to concealed carry.
I agree with what you're saying and I think the organizers are doing their best to advertise in unique areas.
We're trying to incorporate language in the flier for our town hall to say something like "if you support the right to carry or have questions or concerns about this issue please join us....."
Fliers and donations are going to and coming from individuals who aren't involved that much, farm emplement stores, grocery stores, pizza joints and so forth.
"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks"
-Thomas Jefferson-

Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
-Aaron Lewis-

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Posted 27 May 2010 - 08:35 PM

It's my feeling that the point we have to make is, a person's life, and the lives of his/her family members are no less valuable at WalMart, or an I-90 rest area, than they are at home! Why should I be allowed to defend my family only in my home?  The natural right to defend oneself/family doesn't end at home!

i.e., seems to me that most folks agree that the gentleman that recently shot the intruder into his home had every right to do so, regardless of whatever Chicago gun ban.  If the incident had occurred at some I-90/94 rest stop, should he not have that same right?  How does location preclude the natural right to self defense?  "Oh, my!  I'm at an interstate rest stop...I'll just have to dial 911 and hope they get here in time!"

Bu!! $H!+

Rant over.
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Posted 27 May 2010 - 08:47 PM

View PostOl, on 27 May 2010 - 08:35 PM, said:

It's my feeling that the point we have to make is, a person's life, and the lives of his/her family members are no less valuable at WalMart, or an I-90 rest area, than they are at home! Why should I be allowed to defend my family only in my home?  The natural right to defend oneself/family doesn't end at home!

i.e., seems to me that most folks agree that the gentleman that recently shot the intruder into his home had every right to do so, regardless of whatever Chicago gun ban.  If the incident had occurred at some I-90/94 rest stop, should he not have that same right?  How does location preclude the natural right to self defense?  "Oh, my!  I'm at an interstate rest stop...I'll just have to dial 911 and hope they get here in time!"

Bu!! $H!+

Rant over.

Well put Sir!
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