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#1 Thirdpower

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Posted 05 May 2009 - 03:44 PM

Right on the heels of the "Rightwing Extremist" report now comes the "Domestic Extremist" report.

I am officially a domestic extremist under multiple Gov't definitions.

(U) alternative media (U//FOUO) A term used to describe various information
sources that provide a forum for interpretations of events and
issues that differ radically from those presented in mass
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(U) militia movement (U//FOUO) A rightwing extremist movement composed of groups or individuals who adhere to an antigovernment
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So I'm a "Domestic Terrorist" in Missouri, and a "Rightwing/Domestic Extremist" according to various Federal reports.

And they always seem to come from 'rogue' departments w/o 'official approval' when they are leaked.

Armed and Safe notes that the .gov is preparing for this eventuality. And look who's on the bill. Our good buddy Mark Kirk.

http://daysofourtrai...t-were-all.html
http://www.foxnews.c...tremist-groups/
http://www.govtrack....?bill=h111-2159
http://turnerradione...ism-lexicon.pdf

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Posted 05 May 2009 - 06:41 PM

Let me interpet part of this

interpretations of events and
issues that differ radically from those presented in mass
media products and outlets.


MSM events and issues that differ from the main stream media

Sure has Obama and Nappy writtian all over it.
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Posted 05 May 2009 - 07:00 PM

This is ridiculous... These clowns obviously have nothing to do.

Essentially, if you stand in the way of their agenda you are a domestic terrorist.

I would not say the bush years were very good, but seems like the worst years will be under barry. I can't f'n stand fascists...

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Posted 05 May 2009 - 07:09 PM

(U) alternative media (U//FOUO) A term used to describe various information
sources that provide a forum for interpretations of events and
issues that differ radically from those presented in mass
media products and outlets.


That's f---ing alarming.

And I mean it.

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Posted 05 May 2009 - 07:17 PM

Take part in a tea party? Domestic terrorist. Anti-technology? Domestic terrorist.

This is unacceptable. DHS is being turned into the Gestapo.
"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." Thomas Jefferson

"Government is not reason; it is not eloquence. It is force. And force, like fire, is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." George Washington

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Posted 05 May 2009 - 07:35 PM

Does anyone have a link or copy of the actual DHS document (and not just the FOX article)?

Original post has a link to the same one I have.
"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." Thomas Jefferson

"Government is not reason; it is not eloquence. It is force. And force, like fire, is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." George Washington

Laws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. Jefferson's "Commonplace Book," 1774_1776, quoting from On Crimes and Punishment, by criminologist Cesare Beccaria, 1764

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Posted 05 May 2009 - 11:24 PM

3rd-P I foresee a meteoric and distinguished rise to the top for you!

Shall I ask my local postmaster to save a special spot on the wall for you?

I'll see what I can do , but no promises.... :Drunk emoticon:

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Posted 06 May 2009 - 04:59 AM

Does anyone have a link or copy of the actual DHS document (and not just the FOX article)?

Original post has a link to the same one I have.

Article in the Washington Times has a link:

http://www.washingto...ism-dictionary/

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Posted 06 May 2009 - 08:14 AM

3rd-P I foresee a meteoric and distinguished rise to the top for you!

Shall I ask my local postmaster to save a special spot on the wall for you?

I'll see what I can do , but no promises.... :Drunk emoticon:


This is the modern AmeriKa. More than likely I'll just stop posting one day. Never to be heard from again.

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Posted 06 May 2009 - 08:41 AM

It is indeed sad to see RINO Mark Kirk's name right up there in HR2159 with such names as Charles The Tax Cheat Rangle and Caroyn Second Amendment Denier McCarthy. A man is know by the company he keeps.

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Posted 06 May 2009 - 05:05 PM

This country is turning into the 4th reich. What the **** is going on here.

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Posted 06 May 2009 - 06:05 PM

Obama's pushing the envelope pretty hard...
So much for the man who is called the "great unifier".

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 10:52 AM

And another bill our buddy Kirk has signed onto. This one's intent to stop 'cyberbullying' but would effectively ban all 'electronic' communication:

http://thomas.loc.go...?c111:H.R.1966:

http://www.wired.com...stile-bloggers/

http://waronguns.blo...in-trouble.html

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 05:53 PM

Obama's pushing the envelope pretty hard...
So much for the man who is called the "great unifier".

It's easy to unify if you 'cleanse' the opposition first.
"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." Thomas Jefferson

"Government is not reason; it is not eloquence. It is force. And force, like fire, is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." George Washington

Laws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. Jefferson's "Commonplace Book," 1774_1776, quoting from On Crimes and Punishment, by criminologist Cesare Beccaria, 1764

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 06:19 PM

I was going to reference "Great unifier" with Hitler, but I'm sick of the comparisons, and I don't think it would intellectually portray my thoughts. Not that that's what I'm known for :)

Obama's bipartisanship ended the second he got in office. He immediately excluded republicans from monetary issues.
Look at the vote tallies since he became elected. I think Bush had more support among dems than BO has among repubs.
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Posted 15 May 2009 - 11:38 AM

The way our country is heading is scary! The Dems are moving closer and closer to totalitarianism, and many RINOs are happily along for the ride.

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