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#1 User is offline   abolt243 

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Posted 07 March 2009 - 05:55 AM

ACTION NEEDED!!!
START CALLS/FAXES ON MONDAY THE 9TH!!
The LTC bill SB1976, sponsored by Senators Jones and Rutherford, is scheduled to be heard in the Senate Public Health committee on Tues, March 10 at 1:00 PM. This is the Senate bill that mirrors HB462. The Public Health committee is a very hostile committee for this bill, and it is not expected to pass. In spite of that, we would like to innundate every one of those committee members with phone calls and faxes beginning on Monday, the 9th and continuing to Noon on Tuesday the 10th. We must show these committee members that we are serious about LTC, we are aware of the bills as they pass through the legislature and that we will support them, regardless of their perceived chances.

Please call both their Springfield and district offices. If there is a fax number available, fax a short note in support of SB1976. Make your calls and faxes cordial, concise, and to the point. The people that answer the phone are just doing their job, and may or may not have an opinion on the bill, so don't go into detail about your support unless asked. You may be asked to supply your name, address and a phone number if you'd like a call back.

For those of you new to this process (I was scared to death the first time I called!) this might serve as an example for you:

"Hello, I'm Tim Bowyer of Shelbyville, IL. I'm calling this morning to ask Senator Delgado to support Senate Bill 1976 when it comes before the Public Health Committee. "

Yes, call them all, even though you're not in their district. Phone calls do count, regardless of where they come from. The members of the committee are listed below with their office numbers and fax numbers when availabe.

Fire up those phones!!!

Senator William Delgado
Springfield Office
217-782-5652
217-557-3930 FAX
Chicago Office
773-292-0202
773-292-1903 FAX

Senator Mattie Hunter
Springfield Office
217-782-5966
District Office
312-949-1908
312-949-1958 FAX

Senator Susan Garrett
Springfield, IL
217-782-3650
District Office
847-433-2002
847-433-8002 FAX

Senator Michael Noland
Springfield, IL
217-782-7746
217-782-2115 FAX
District Office
847-214-8864
847-214-8867 FAX

Senator Jeffrey M. Schoenburg
Springfield Office
217-782-2119
District Office
847-492-1200
847-492-1202 FAX

Senator Heather Steans
Springfield Office
217-782-8492
District Office
773-769-1717
773-769-6901

Senator Dave Syverson
Springfield Office
217-782-5413
District Office
815-987-7555
815-987-7563 FAX

Senator Dan Cronin
Springfield Office
217-782-8107
District Office
630-792-0040
630-792-8620 FAX

Senator Chris Lauzen
Springfield Office
217-782-0052
District Office
630-264-2334
630-264-1566 FAX

Senator Carole Pankau
Springfield Office
217-782-9463
217-557-3908 FAX
District Office
630-582-0390
630-582-0391 FAX

This post has been edited by abolt243: 09 March 2009 - 12:24 PM
Reason for edit: Rep. Noland phone no. correction

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 09:02 AM

Thanks abolt, I have called everyone. The phone number for Senator Noland should be 217-782-7746 at the Springfield office. Jim.
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 09:37 AM

Phone calls made to both offices of each Senator. Sounds like we're doing a number on lighting up their lines. They said they're getting a lot of calls on this bill. :thumbsup: Senators Syverson and Cronin are firmly on our side and it seems like there was one other. Lauzen maybe? I should have taken notes during the calls. The ones that didn't know the Senator's position I figure are against the bill and don't want to say so. Hope I'm wrong on that.
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 09:54 AM

Have to add, too bad the bill isn't numbered 200 lower!

Calls made.
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 10:05 AM

Senator Heather Steans
Springfield Office
217-782-8492
District Office
773-769-1717
773-769-1717 6901

Correction on the fax number for Sen. Steans.

Faxes sent
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 10:10 AM

View PostLou, on Mar 9 2009, 11:05 AM, said:

Senator Heather Steans
Springfield Office
217-782-8492
District Office
773-769-1717
773-769-1717 6901

Correction on the fax number for Sen. Steans.

Faxes sent



Edited lists to correct the number, thanks Lou.
Are you a member of the ISRA?? If not, why not?? Join over 18,000 other Illinois gun owners in the fight for your rights!!!

The Roman Empire fell due to a large, corrupt government, overspending, an overextended military, insecure borders, and the illegal immigration of Goths, barbarians (anyone who was not educated), and religious fanatics. Sound familiar?

"..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.."
--Samuel Adams

Luke 11:21 - "When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed." NASB

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 10:12 AM

View Postsctman800, on Mar 9 2009, 10:02 AM, said:

Thanks abolt, I have called everyone. The phone number for Senator Noland should be 217-782-7746 at the Springfield office. Jim.


Repeat! The gentleman who answered the phone asked that I PLEASE get the word out that the correct number is ...7746.

I said, "You must be getting swamped?"

His reply: "You have no idea!" :thumbsup:
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 10:18 AM

I called all Senators. Got lots of voicemail boxes. The few Senators I did talk to did indicate that their phones were ringing off the hook on this issue.

Keep it up!

I got responses from a few folks that said their Senator supported the bill

Steans - receptionist indicated she thinks the Senator supports
Syverson - definite YES!
Lauzen - Definitely Supports

Not sure about Pankau, as soon as I said the "6" in 1976 the receptionist said, "thank you." and hung up.
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 10:21 AM

View PostJohn Kopecky, on Mar 9 2009, 11:18 AM, said:

I called all Senators. Got lots of voicemail boxes. The few Senators I did talk to did indicate that their phones were ringing off the hook on this issue.

Keep it up!

I got responses from a few folks that said their Senator supported the bill

Steans - receptionist indicated she thinks the Senator supports
Syverson - definite YES!
Lauzen - Definitely Supports

Not sure about Pankau, as soon as I said the "6" in 1976 the receptionist said, "thank you." and hung up.

I'd probably count that as a NO vote.
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 10:24 AM

I guess everyone in Springfield goes to lunch at 11:00. I hate leaving messages, so I'll try back after lunch.... :thumbsup:
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 10:25 AM

View PostJohn Kopecky, on Mar 9 2009, 11:18 AM, said:

I called all Senators. Got lots of voicemail boxes. The few Senators I did talk to did indicate that their phones were ringing off the hook on this issue.

Keep it up!

I got responses from a few folks that said their Senator supported the bill

Steans - receptionist indicated she thinks the Senator supports
Syverson - definite YES!
Lauzen - Definitely Supports

Not sure about Pankau, as soon as I said the "6" in 1976 the receptionist said, "thank you." and hung up.



That's funny, I just talked to someone in his office and she said she was trying to get in touch with him to determine his position. Sounds like a definite "Maybe?"
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 10:31 AM

I recently saw a Grading of Illinois Reps from the Illinois State Rifle association but now I can't find it. Anyone have the link to that page?

I'd like to see how these stack up in terms of past performance.

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 10:36 AM

View PostJohn Kopecky, on Mar 9 2009, 11:31 AM, said:

I recently saw a Grading of Illinois Reps from the Illinois State Rifle association but now I can't find it. Anyone have the link to that page?

I'd like to see how these stack up in terms of past performance.

John



Found it...

http://icarry.org/mo...p?name=Senators
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 10:38 AM

View PostJohn Kopecky, on Mar 9 2009, 11:36 AM, said:

View PostJohn Kopecky, on Mar 9 2009, 11:31 AM, said:

I recently saw a Grading of Illinois Reps from the Illinois State Rifle association but now I can't find it. Anyone have the link to that page?

I'd like to see how these stack up in terms of past performance.

John



Found it...

http://icarry.org/mo...p?name=Senators


I'm not sure how up to date that one is, I suggest using these threads as they are for 2009

House - http://illinoiscarry...showtopic=14073

Senate - http://illinoiscarry...showtopic=13888
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 10:39 AM

View PostLou, on Mar 9 2009, 11:25 AM, said:

View PostJohn Kopecky, on Mar 9 2009, 11:18 AM, said:

I called all Senators. Got lots of voicemail boxes. The few Senators I did talk to did indicate that their phones were ringing off the hook on this issue.

Keep it up!

I got responses from a few folks that said their Senator supported the bill

Steans - receptionist indicated she thinks the Senator supports
Syverson - definite YES!
Lauzen - Definitely Supports

Not sure about Pankau, as soon as I said the "6" in 1976 the receptionist said, "thank you." and hung up.



That's funny, I just talked to someone in his office and she said she was trying to get in touch with him to determine his position. Sounds like a definite "Maybe?"


Pankau: as soon as I said, "SB1976" he interrupted and asked, "yes or no vote". Sounds to me like the Senator might just go with the flow.

Also...Sen Cronin's sec stated she wasn't sure of his postion, but knows he has had a lot of conversation with Todd Vandermyde.
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 10:45 AM

I called them all... - take it easy, I was nice!!
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 10:52 AM

View PostOl, on Mar 9 2009, 11:39 AM, said:

View PostLou, on Mar 9 2009, 11:25 AM, said:

View PostJohn Kopecky, on Mar 9 2009, 11:18 AM, said:

I called all Senators. Got lots of voicemail boxes. The few Senators I did talk to did indicate that their phones were ringing off the hook on this issue.

Keep it up!

I got responses from a few folks that said their Senator supported the bill

Steans - receptionist indicated she thinks the Senator supports
Syverson - definite YES!
Lauzen - Definitely Supports

Not sure about Pankau, as soon as I said the "6" in 1976 the receptionist said, "thank you." and hung up.



That's funny, I just talked to someone in his office and she said she was trying to get in touch with him to determine his position. Sounds like a definite "Maybe?"


Pankau: as soon as I said, "SB1976" he interrupted and asked, "yes or no vote". Sounds to me like the Senator might just go with the flow.

Also...Sen Cronin's sec stated she wasn't sure of his postion, but knows he has had a lot of conversation with Todd Vandermyde.



Here's my analysis

Delgado previously voted in favor of a "High Capacity Magazine Ban" in 2007. I wouldn't count on him for support.

http://votesmart.org...mp;can_id=18359

Hunter, Garrett, and Schoenburg get bad grades in the past.

Noland was against Concealed Carry in a 2004 survey. Or at least didn't support it at the time.

http://votesmart.org...an_id=33577#826

After reading Steans biography, I don't really see a Yes Vote there. At least on the face of it.

http://votesmart.org...p?can_id=101672

This would seem to indicate that likely we're facing a 6-4 defeat if Pankau votes Yes.

But don't be discouraged. Nothing freaks out a legislator like their phones ringing off the hook. Keep sending the word around, ask your spouse to call. In fact a few feminine voices on the other end of the line might be very effective as well.

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 12:52 PM

Feminine voice added!!
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 12:53 PM

Susan Garrett is our senator here in the 29th District.
She is about as anti-gun as possible. Not in the way of the Daleys, but in a North Shore, intellectual way. I think it's fair to say she doesn't even consider the 2nd Amendment to exist, not in any literal way. It's more of an old mistake that never got cleared up, to that way of thinking.
What's different now is that Garrett, like several other legislators, no longer trumpets anti-gun efforts. I'm not going to bother to look it up, but I think Garrett's had her name on a number of anti-gun bills in the past, such as the .50 cal ban, but those references are pretty much gone from her website, e-mails, and postal mailings. When they do appear, it's with the code words like "child safety", and the old rhetoric about getting guns out of American homes is harder to find.
The 29th is to the immediate north of Chicago and a repeal of the 2nd would be fairly easy to pass here.
The fact that the anti-gun noise has been suppressed is a modest hopeful sign, and should be encouraging to such get-calling campaigns like this.
Last year at IGOLD, I should add, Garrett had a morning committee meeting mysteriously last well into late afternoon, much longer than staff had said it would. Then, staff bugged out.
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 01:19 PM

email sent: :thumbsup:

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Dear Senator Garrett,



I'm writing you to ask your support for SB1976, the License to Carry bill. 48 states already have some sort of concealed carry available for law-abiding citizens and none of the Wild-West scenarios have come to pass. In fact it's just the oposite. Permit holders are routinely among those who have the profound respect for the law. Please help Illinois citizens join the rest of the country by supporting this important piece of legislation. We just want the right to protect ourselves from those who have no respect for the law.



Thank you for your time,





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Johnston City, IL

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 01:48 PM

Done!!!

Callin's easy as long as the dentist leaves me be...
I'd rather do a nice visit to the offices, you know, like the windmill scene in Frankenstein!!!

Ah, torches, lovely torches...

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 02:25 PM

Maybe some of the calls did help to shore up the base.

Sen Chris Lauzen from my district 25 signed up as a Chief Co-Sponsor of the bill this afternoon.

http://www.ilga.gov/...amp;LegID=44880
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 02:49 PM

View PostJohn Kopecky, on Mar 9 2009, 03:25 PM, said:

Maybe some of the calls did help to shore up the base.

Sen Chris Lauzen from my district 25 signed up as a Chief Co-Sponsor of the bill this afternoon.

http://www.ilga.gov/...amp;LegID=44880

OK, I'm new at this. Can any Senator sign up as a co-sponsor at this time or only those in the Public Health Committee? The reason I ask is that Senator Gary Forby promised to support LTC when introduced. I'm pretty sure he'd vote for it but I'd like to see more names as co-sponsor. May have to talk to him about that Wednesday.
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 04:14 PM

View PostPPK, on Mar 9 2009, 03:49 PM, said:

View PostJohn Kopecky, on Mar 9 2009, 03:25 PM, said:

Maybe some of the calls did help to shore up the base.

Sen Chris Lauzen from my district 25 signed up as a Chief Co-Sponsor of the bill this afternoon.

http://www.ilga.gov/...amp;LegID=44880

OK, I'm new at this. Can any Senator sign up as a co-sponsor at this time or only those in the Public Health Committee? The reason I ask is that Senator Gary Forby promised to support LTC when introduced. I'm pretty sure he'd vote for it but I'd like to see more names as co-sponsor. May have to talk to him about that Wednesday.


Any Senator who wants to support the bill can join as a cosponsor. I think it's an excellent idea to suggest that your Senator do so.
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 07:14 PM

View PostColonel, on Mar 9 2009, 02:48 PM, said:

Done!!!

Callin's easy as long as the dentist leaves me be...
I'd rather do a nice visit to the offices, you know, like the windmill scene in Frankenstein!!!

Ah, torches, lovely torches...

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LTC or it's torches and pitchfork time!! :ph34r:
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Posted 10 March 2009 - 04:48 PM

Any word on the outcome of the committee hearing?
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Posted 10 March 2009 - 04:51 PM

The GA bill status page hasn't been updated yet
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Posted 10 March 2009 - 05:49 PM

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Posted 10 March 2009 - 07:41 PM

View Postwazzle, on Mar 10 2009, 06:49 PM, said:



This whole Public Health Committee thing was too cute by half. And typical.

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Posted 10 March 2009 - 07:48 PM

And that's where things the Chicagoans don't like go to die.
See all those 773 and 847 area codes? It must have been swift.
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