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[45superman]

Synopsis As Introduced
Creates the Sport Shooting and Training Range Act. Contains legislative findings and intent. Provides that the Illinois Environmental Protection Agency shall make a good faith effort to provide U. S. Environmental Protection Agency publications to owners or operators of sport shooting or training ranges and provide environmental practices assistance. Provides for environmental stewardship plans at ranges and for Illinois EPA assistance with contamination. Sets forth procedures regarding contamination investigations and corrective actions. Provides for immunity from legal actions brought by the State, local governments, persons, or non-governmental entities based upon projectiles on the range or in the environment, if an operator made a good faith effort to comply with the Environmental Protection Act. Provides for withdrawal of claims by the State and local governments against ranges pending in a State court or administrative agency. Provides for criminal penalties when a State or local governmental employee while officially acting maliciously violates the Act. Provides that no municipality or county shall zone or rezone any property that includes a range if the zoning or rezoning would cause the range to be eliminated or to cease operation, unless the owner petitions for or consents to the zoning or rezoning. Contains provisions regarding: costs; preemption; conflicting laws; construction; and other matters. Amends the Environmental Protection Act to conform to the new Act.

http://ilga.gov/legi...p...ID=76&GA=96

[Buzzard]

And why is a shooting range an environmental issue? Lead comes from the ground naturally!

[45superman]

Buzzard, on Feb 5 2009, 03:23 PM, said:

And why is a shooting range an environmental issue? Lead comes from the ground naturally!

I hear you, Buzz, but that's going to be one of the backdoor attacks on gun owners--and it looks as if Sen. Clayborne is trying to help us out.

[Lion of Lincoln]

Buzzard, on Feb 5 2009, 03:23 PM, said:

Lead comes from the ground naturally!

It does, but it doesn't typically occur in nature as a metallic element.

http://en.wikipedia....Lead#Occurrence

[Lion of Lincoln]

Buzzard, on Feb 5 2009, 03:23 PM, said:

And why is a shooting range an environmental issue?

It DOES have the potential to be an environmental hazard.  But gun-haters are trying to overstate the risk in order to further their agenda.  Any little thing they think will remove guns from the people they'll run with.  And when that aspect of their agenda is proven fraudulent, the go on to the next one and pretend like the previous one never existed.  Fad politics.

[Buzzard]

Lion of Lincoln, on Feb 5 2009, 05:46 PM, said:

Buzzard, on Feb 5 2009, 03:23 PM, said:

And why is a shooting range an environmental issue?

It DOES have the potential to be an environmental hazard.  But gun-haters are trying to overstate the risk in order to further their agenda.  Any little thing they think will remove guns from the people they'll run with.  And when that aspect of their agenda is proven fraudulent, the go on to the next one and pretend like the previous one never existed.  Fad politics.

I guess we will have to classify all Civil War battlefield states as being hazzardous to your health. Stupid Liberals.

[Lion of Lincoln]

Buzzard, on Feb 5 2009, 05:09 PM, said:

Lion of Lincoln, on Feb 5 2009, 05:46 PM, said:

Buzzard, on Feb 5 2009, 03:23 PM, said:

And why is a shooting range an environmental issue?

It DOES have the potential to be an environmental hazard.  But gun-haters are trying to overstate the risk in order to further their agenda.  Any little thing they think will remove guns from the people they'll run with.  And when that aspect of their agenda is proven fraudulent, the go on to the next one and pretend like the previous one never existed.  Fad politics.

I guess we will have to classify all Civil War battlefield states as being hazzardous to your health. Stupid Liberals.

It's like when all the leftists were up-in-arms about depleted uranium being used on the battlefield and they tried to connect every single miscarriage, deformity, or death before old age to depleted uranium in Iraq.  The problem is whatever danger exists due to depleted uranium isn't because its radioactive, but because it is a heavy metal.  And in order for depleted uranium to cause problems, it has to be ingested via inhalation or ingestion.  And there's virtually no risk of that happening.  

Unless you're breathing lead paint dust, eating lead paint chips or drinking/eating from lead contaminated kitchenware, you're risk is very low.  Especially if you're an adult.

[c-rock]

I thought lead bullets in the ground, over time will seal itself from leaching. Lead in other forms is the most dangerous.  If its in a liquid state mixed with other chemicals, that is supposed to be the worse.

[Lou]

[quote name='Lion of Lincoln' post='138370' date='Feb 5 2009, 07:13 PM'][quote name='Buzzard' post='138356' date='Feb 5 2009, 05:09 PM'][quote name='Lion of Lincoln' post='138353' date='Feb 5 2009, 05:46 PM'][quote name='Buzzard' post='138335' date='Feb 5 2009, 03:23 PM']And why is a shooting range an environmental issue?[/quote]


It DOES have the potential to be an environmental hazard.  But gun-haters are trying to overstate the risk in order to further their agenda.  Any little thing they think will remove guns from the people they'll run with.  And when that aspect of their agenda is proven fraudulent, the go on to the next one and pretend like the previous one never existed.  Fad politics.
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I guess we will have to classify all Civil War battlefield states as being hazzardous to your health. Stupid Liberals.
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It's like when all the leftists were up-in-arms about depleted uranium being used on the battlefield and they tried to connect every single miscarriage, deformity, or death before old age to depleted uranium in Iraq.  The problem is whatever danger exists due to depleted uranium isn't because its radioactive, but because it is a heavy metal.  And in order for depleted uranium to cause problems, it has to be ingested via inhalation or ingestion.  And there's virtually no risk of that happening.  

Unless you're breathing lead paint dust, eating lead paint chips or drinking/eating from lead contaminated kitchenware, you're risk is very low.  Especially if you're an adult.
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See - you guys just don't understand.
Environmentalist wackos do not have to use logic and common sense.
It's all about "saving the planet for our children."
Sheesh.......................

[rubble]

I don't think the environment has anything to do with it.  Its just an angle for anti-gunners to use to close shooting ranges.  The government has unlimited resources, (due to the general apathy of the citizenry for decades), and getting the EPA engaged in closing ranges is an effective move for the libs.