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[Mac]

John Bradley's bill for concealed carry has been filed today 1-16-09 with the clerk. Lets hope it gets voted on this time and passes.


Mac

Synopsis As Introduced
Creates the Family and Personal Protection Act. Establishes statewide uniform standards for the issuance of permits to carry concealed firearms in this State. Vests in the Department of State Police the authority to issue concealed firearms permits to qualified applicants. Requires an applicant to complete a training course in handgun use, safety, and marksmanship. Also requires instruction in the law relating to firearm use. Creates the Citizen Safety and Self-Defense Trust Fund administered by the Department. The moneys in the Fund shall be used to administer the Act. Establishes restrictions on carrying concealed firearms. Establishes standards for the training course and for certifying instructors. Amends the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act. Provides that the Family and Personal Protection Act supersedes an ordinance of a unit of local government inconsistent with that Act. Prohibits a home rule unit from regulating the issuance of permits to carry concealed firearms. Amends the Criminal Code of 1961. Exempts, from an unlawful use of weapons and aggravated unlawful use of weapons violation, persons who carry or possess firearms in accordance with the Family and Personal Protection Act. Effective immediately.

http://www.ilga.gov/...s...ID=76&GA=96

[abolt243]

Mac, on Jan 16 2009, 03:42 PM, said:

John Bradley's bill for concealed carry has been filed today 1-16-09 with the clerk. Lets hope it gets voted on this time and passes.


Mac

While this would certainly be better than what we have, and I'll wholeheartedly back it if it gets up a head of steam, it's simply HB1304 from last year reintroduced.  Provides issuance through the ISP.  It would be a good place to start, but there will be others introduced this session that will appeal to you even more!!!!  


Tim

[Mac]

without sounding over confident here so early in the legislative session, I have a better feeling about this year than last year. With IGOLD coming up in March and the possibility of having far more people participating in that, the idea that Jones is out of the Senate, Quinn being pro 2A, all the counties backing the resolution, and Blago leaving office and possibly taking other Chicago cronies with him. Is it my imagination or is King richard laying low these days? I must say this is going to get interresting!


Mac

[abolt243]

Mac, on Jan 16 2009, 09:14 PM, said:

without sounding over confident here so early in the legislative session, I have a better feeling about this year than last year. With IGOLD coming up in March and the possibility of having far more people participating in that, the idea that Jones is out of the Senate, Quinn being pro 2A, all the counties backing the resolution, and Blago leaving office and possibly taking other Chicago cronies with him. Is it my imagination or is King richard laying low these days? I must say this is going to get interresting!


Mac

I feel a little bit the same way Mac.  We've got a couple of real obstacles in Cullerton and Madigan, but if we can get the bills through committee and on the floor, we might have a chance at getting them debated anyway!!  It will actually be a good thing to have several different versions of an LTC bill.  Remember, with a few concessions, we will only need 60 in the House and 30 in the Senate.

Let's get this Impeachment stuff out of the way and get started!!

Tim

[Kipp Jones]

Did I miss something, was it confirmed Quinn is pro 2A?

[abolt243]

Kipp Jones, on Jan 16 2009, 10:45 PM, said:

Did I miss something, was it confirmed Quinn is pro 2A?

Still waiting on confirmation, but a good source says yes.  No direct actions yet to point that way though.

Tim

[Kipp Jones]

While I am a conservative and usually vote Republican, I have no issue voting for a pro CCW Democrat. IL Democrats should take note. If they pass CCW in IL, they will get my vote. They need it in future elections. They should look at it this way, allowing CCW in IL does not cost the state a dime, if anything it increases revenue.

[spec4]

Cullerton in sSringfield is the same as Daley in Springfield.  We need to keep an eye on this guy, I guarantee you he is bad news.

[Buzzard]

I believe that having Cullerton as Senate President will be a big problem getting a LTC bill to advance - let alone getting it to a vote.

[GWBH]

Buzzard, on Jan 17 2009, 12:55 PM, said:

I believe that having Cullerton as Senate President will be a big problem getting a LTC bill to advance - let alone getting it to a vote.

So much for government "serving the people"...


I'd really like to see the County Sheriff as the issuing authority - on a "shall issue" LTC law!!
(Want my cake and eat it too)

[abolt243]

GWBH, on Jan 17 2009, 02:07 PM, said:

Buzzard, on Jan 17 2009, 12:55 PM, said:

I believe that having Cullerton as Senate President will be a big problem getting a LTC bill to advance - let alone getting it to a vote.

So much for government "serving the people"...


I'd really like to see the County Sheriff as the issuing authority - on a "shall issue" LTC law!!
(Want my cake and eat it too)

Patience O wizened one!!  You may get several to look at before this session is over!!

Tim

[BShawn]

abolt243, on Jan 16 2009, 10:04 PM, said:

Mac, on Jan 16 2009, 09:14 PM, said:

without sounding over confident here so early in the legislative session, I have a better feeling about this year than last year. With IGOLD coming up in March and the possibility of having far more people participating in that, the idea that Jones is out of the Senate, Quinn being pro 2A, all the counties backing the resolution, and Blago leaving office and possibly taking other Chicago cronies with him. Is it my imagination or is King richard laying low these days? I must say this is going to get interresting!


Mac

I feel a little bit the same way Mac.  We've got a couple of real obstacles in Cullerton and Madigan, but if we can get the bills through committee and on the floor, we might have a chance at getting them debated anyway!!  It will actually be a good thing to have several different versions of an LTC bill.  Remember, with a few concessions, we will only need 60 in the House and 30 in the Senate.

Let's get this Impeachment stuff out of the way and get started!!

Tim

I like the feeling of this year too. Get 'em in there, and lets get a LTC

[cerebus]

The bill will make it out of committee but Bradley will never call it to a vote.  You can take that to the bank.

[papa]

cerebus ,  care to exsplain your feelings on your remark about him not calling it to a vote????

[GWBH]

cerebus,
I'd like to know why you feel that way as well,
Do you know something you'd care to let us all in on??

[abolt243]

Many bills never get called for a vote because the sponsor feels that they don't have the votes to pass it.  Once a bill is voted down in a session, it's dead and can't be recalled for a subsequent vote.  Maybe that's what he's talking about, he feels it won't be supported.

Tim

[1957Human]

Kipp Jones, on Jan 16 2009, 10:45 PM, said:

Did I miss something, was it confirmed Quinn is pro 2A?

I've followed Quinn's career for some years and would guess he'd leave it to the people to decide what they want as far as LTC is concerned.

Unlike most Top-Down Democrats, he's an honest-to-goodness, "Listen to the People"-type of populist politician. In one interview, he said, "[W]hy should taxpayers, who pay the bill, and who are paying the salaries of all those in government, be denied the opportunity, by referendum, to vote on issues involving their government spending and government taxation?" Not exactly your typical Chicago Democrat.

He also said, in another interview:

"But the safety valve of initiative or referendum, is when there is a subject, like today utility rates are not getting proper attention, the people have a place to go to and put their own measure on the ballot and resolve the question. To me that's the shortcoming of Illinois politics: a lot of issues never get resolved, never get squarely addressed. They just get just kicked from one year to the next. Initiative is a good way for the voters to put an end to that pretense. So yes, unequivocally I support initiative. I'm the biggest supporter of direct democracy in Illinois."

And I've never seen him speak out against gun ownership, so I'd presume that if the People want LTC, and vote that way by referenda (as is the case), he'd support that as well.

[Smittyp83]

I just called Rep Bradley's office to thank him for introducing this bill.  Emails are going out to my Rep & Sen to support it as well!

[abolt243]

Smittyp83, on Jan 23 2009, 02:42 PM, said:

I just called Rep Bradley's office to thank him for introducing this bill. Emails are going out to my Rep & Sen to support it as well!

Great! We need to get behind any Pro 2A bill that we see.  I would tell you all that there may be several carry bills introduced during this session, with some major differences among them.  Don't get "married" to any one bill this early in the legislative process.  There may be something come along later that you like even better!!!!  But, by all means, we need to thank our legislators for supporting the concept of civilian carry and develope the relationships that it will take to get a good carry bill passed!!

Tim

[rubble]

Ok, It passed the short debate in the Agriculture & Conservation Committee- Now what?  Why are there so many Dems. onboard and so little Reps? Something seems fishy.

[Molly B.]

rubble, on Feb 19 2009, 09:27 AM, said:

Ok, It passed the short debate in the Agriculture & Conservation Committee- Now what?  Why are there so many Dems. onboard and so little Reps? Something seems fishy.

Now it goes for second reading, amendments, etc. Sponsor spends time recruiting co-sponsors and drumming up votes - its a long process.

If you are talking about the balance of parties in committees - take a look at the make-up of all the committees - you will find everyone of them has majority of Dems.

That's because the majority party leader selects the committee members and the majority party always has the "majority" on the committees.

Just the way it's done.

That's why the parties always try to maintain a majority - control.

[rubble]

Molly B., on Feb 19 2009, 12:29 PM, said:

rubble, on Feb 19 2009, 09:27 AM, said:

Ok, It passed the short debate in the Agriculture & Conservation Committee- Now what?  Why are there so many Dems. onboard and so little Reps? Something seems fishy.

Now it goes for second reading, amendments, etc. Sponsor spends time recruiting co-sponsors and drumming up votes - its a long process.

If you are talking about the balance of parties in committees - take a look at the make-up of all the committees - you will find everyone of them has majority of Dems.

That's because the majority party leader selects the committee members and the majority party always has the "majority" on the committees.

Just the way it's done.

That's why the parties always try to maintain a majority - control.

OK- Thanks

[bluehandgun]

rubble, on Feb 19 2009, 09:27 AM, said:

Ok, It passed the short debate in the Agriculture & Conservation Committee- Now what?  Why are there so many Dems. onboard and so little Reps? Something seems fishy.

not all dems are anti-gun... to think that is wrong. i know my state rep is a dem in favor of gun rights!

[rubble]

bluehandgun, on Feb 19 2009, 05:25 PM, said:

rubble, on Feb 19 2009, 09:27 AM, said:

Ok, It passed the short debate in the Agriculture & Conservation Committee- Now what?  Why are there so many Dems. onboard and so little Reps? Something seems fishy.

not all dems are anti-gun... to think that is wrong. i know my state rep is a dem in favor of gun rights!

Point taken

[Ol'Coach]

In Illinois, it's more a matter of geography than it is party lines.

[constitutionalist]

Ol'Coach, on Feb 20 2009, 11:05 AM, said:

In Illinois, it's more a matter of geography than it is party lines.

Yup, most of your democrat Reps from southern Illinois are very conservative. I do know that Bradley and Blagojevich hated each other.