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[ilphil]

45superman, on Feb 5 2009, 12:34 PM, said:

Mac, on Feb 5 2009, 12:30 PM, said:

HB0687 Firearm owner Identification card public liability insurance in the amount of 1,000,000.00. This needs to be watched in my opinion.


Mac

It sure as bloody hell does--thanks.  I don't remember them trying this particular insanity before.

I see you guys beat me to the punch on HB0687. This could be one of the most dangerous bills out there IMHO.

[rubble]

Since this state is the capital of slip-n-fall attorneys, HB0687, is more about attorney job security then anything else.

[TTIN]

More shells?

HB1205 TRANSPORTATION-TECH
<LI>HB1206 TRANSPORTATION-TECH
<LI>HB1207 TRANSPORTATION-TECH
<LI>HB1208 TRANSPORTATION-TECH
<LI>HB1209 TRANSPORTATION-TECH
<LI>HB1210 TRANSPORTATION-TECH
<LI>HB1211 TRANSPORTATION-TECH
<LI>HB1212 TRANSPORTATION-TECH
<LI>HB1213 TRANSPORTATION-TECH
<LI>HB1214 $CDB-CAPITAL PROJECTS-TECH

<LI>HB1215 $CDB-CAPITAL PROJECTS-TECH
<LI>HB1216 $CDB-CAPITAL PROJECTS-TECH
<LI>HB1217 $CDB-CAPITAL PROJECTS-TECH
<LI>HB1218 $CDB-CAPITAL PROJECTS-TECH
<LI>HB1219 GAMING-TECH
<LI>HB1220 GAMING-TECH
<LI>HB1221 GAMING-TECH
<LI>HB1222 GOVERNMENT-TECH
<LI>HB1223 GOVERNMENT-TECH
<LI>HB1224 GOVERNMENT-TECH
<LI>HB1225 FINANCE-TECH
<LI>HB1226 FINANCE-TECH
<LI>HB1227 FINANCE-TECH
<LI>HB1228 FINANCE-TECH
<LI>HB1229 REVENUE-TECH
<LI>HB1230 FINANCE-TECH
<LI>HB1231 STATE GOVERNMENT-TECH
<LI>HB1232 STATE GOVERNMENT-TECH
<LI>HB1233 EDUCATION-TECH
<LI>HB1234 EDUCATION-TECH
<LI>HB1235 CIVIL LAW-TECH
<LI>HB1236 TRANSPORTATION-TECH
<LI>HB1237 TRANSPORTATION-TECH
<LI>HB1238 TRANSPORTATION-TECH
<LI>HB1239 EMPLOYMENT-TECH
<LI>HB1240 EMPLOYMENT-TECH
<LI>HB1241 EMPLOYMENT-TECH
<LI>HB1242 LOCAL GOVERNMENT-TECH
<LI>HB1243 LOCAL GOVERNMENT-TECH
<LI>HB1244 LOCAL GOVERNMENT-TECH
<LI>HB1245 REGULATION-TECH
<LI>HB1246 REGULATION-TECH
<LI>HB1247 REGULATION-TECH
<LI>HB1248 ELECTIONS-TECH
<LI>HB1249 ELECTIONS-TECH
<LI>HB1250 ELECTIONS-TECH
<LI>HB1251 AGRICULTURE-TECH
<LI>HB1252 AGRICULTURE-TECH
<LI>HB1253 AGRICULTURE-TECH
<LI>HB1254 STATE GOVERNMENT-TECH
<LI>HB1255 STATE GOVERNMENT-TECH
<LI>HB1256 STATE GOVERNMENT-TECH
<LI>HB1257 REVENUE-TECH
<LI>HB1258 REVENUE-TECH
<LI>HB1259 CRIMINAL LAW-TECH
<LI>HB1260 CRIMINAL LAW-TECH
<LI>HB1261 CRIMINAL LAW-TECH
<LI>HB1262 SAFETY-TECH
<LI>HB1263 SAFETY-TECH
<LI>HB1264 SAFETY-TECH
<LI>HB1265 CIVIL LAW-TECH
<LI>HB1266 CIVIL LAW-TECH
<LI>HB1267 CIVIL LAW-TECH
<LI>HB1268 BUSINESS-TECH
<LI>HB1269 BUSINESS-TECH
<LI>HB1270 BUSINESS-TECH
<LI>HB1271 HOUSING-TECH
<LI>HB1272 HOUSING-TECH
<LI>HB1273 HOUSING-TECH
<LI>HB1274 VETERANS-TECH
<LI>HB1275 VETERANS-TECH
<LI>HB1276 VETERANS-TECH
<LI>HB1277 EDUCATION-TECH
<LI>HB1278 EDUCATION-TECH
<LI>HB1279 AGING-TECH
<LI>HB1280 AGING-TECH
<LI>HB1281 AGING-TECH
<LI>HB1282 EDUCATION-TECH
<LI>HB1283 IDOT-ROAD SALT GRANTS
<LI>HB1284 $IDOT-ROAD SALT
<LI>HB1285 SUMMER GENERAL PRIMARY
<LI>HB1286 PROP TAX-EXEMPT DISABLED VETS
<LI>HB1287 PROP TAX-PTELL-DEBT SERVICE
<LI>HB1288 AGING-TECH
<LI>HB1289 ELECTIONS-TECH
<LI>HB1290 TRANSPORTATION-TECH

HB1296 EMPLOYMENT-TECH

HB1303 REGULATION-TECH
<LI>HB1304 PUBLIC EMPLOYEE BENEFITS-TECH
<LI>HB1305 PUBLIC EMPLOYEE BENEFITS-TECH
HB1330     REVENUE-TECH
HB1337     AGING-TECH

HB1338     TRANSPORTATION-TECH
<LI>HB1339     REGULATION-TECH
<LI>HB1340     EDUCATION-TECH
<LI>HB1342     VETERANS-TECH
<LI>HB1343     VETERANS-TECH
<LI>HB1344     VETERANS-TECH

That should keep me busy for awhile.

[rubble]

In motorcycling its said there are two kinds of riders-

Those that have gone down and those that will.

I'm looking at the bills the same way, either they're anti-gun or they can be changed to become one.

So as far as I'm concerned all bills are shell bills.

Yes, that makes looking at each one over and over very tedious but we have good reason to do so.

[Ol'Coach]

Some shell bills that will bear watching.

They seem innocent enough, but they are all shell bills in "Criminal law":

Bill Status of HB2563  96th General Assembly
  
Short Description:  CRIMINAL LAW-TECH

House Sponsors
Rep. Arthur L. Turner

Last Action
Date Chamber Action
  2/20/2009 House Filed with the Clerk by Rep. Arthur L. Turner

Statutes Amended In Order of Appearance
720 ILCS 5/10-8 from Ch. 38, par. 10-8


Synopsis As Introduced
Amends the Criminal Code of 1961. Makes a technical change in a Section concerning the unlawful sale of public conveyance travel tickets to a minor.

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Bill Status of HB2564  96th General Assembly
Short Description:  CRIMINAL LAW-TECH

House Sponsors
Rep. Arthur L. Turner

Last Action
Date Chamber Action
  2/20/2009 House Filed with the Clerk by Rep. Arthur L. Turner

Statutes Amended In Order of Appearance
720 ILCS 5/11-9.1 from Ch. 38, par. 11-9.1


Synopsis As Introduced
Amends the Criminal Code of 1961. Makes a technical change in a Section concerning the sexual exploitation of children.

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Bill Status of HB2565  96th General Assembly

Short Description:  CRIMINAL LAW-TECH

House Sponsors
Rep. Arthur L. Turner

Last Action
Date Chamber Action
  2/20/2009 House Filed with the Clerk by Rep. Arthur L. Turner

Statutes Amended In Order of Appearance
730 ILCS 5/3-5-2 from Ch. 38, par. 1003-5-2


Synopsis As Introduced
Amends the Unified Code of Corrections. Makes a technical change in a Section concerning prisoner records maintained by the Department of Corrections.

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Bill Status of HB2566  96th General Assembly

Short Description:  CRIMINAL LAW-TECH

House Sponsors
Rep. Arthur L. Turner

Last Action
Date Chamber Action
  2/20/2009 House Filed with the Clerk by Rep. Arthur L. Turner

Statutes Amended In Order of Appearance
730 ILCS 5/3-2-5 from Ch. 38, par. 1003-2-5


Synopsis As Introduced
Amends the Unified Code of Corrections. Makes a technical change in a Section concerning the organization of the Department of Corrections and the Department of Juvenile Justice.

[Lou]

Quote

Bill Status of HB2564 96th General Assembly
Short Description: CRIMINAL LAW-TECH

House Sponsors
Rep. Arthur L. Turner

Last Action
Date Chamber Action
2/20/2009 House Filed with the Clerk by Rep. Arthur L. Turner

Statutes Amended In Order of Appearance
720 ILCS 5/11-9.1 from Ch. 38, par. 11-9.1


Synopsis As Introduced
Amends the Criminal Code of 1961. Makes a technical change in a Section concerning the sexual exploitation of children.

Ya know Coach - that was the exact wording for SB1007 last session that morphed into an standard capacity magazine ban.

[Ol'Coach]

Lou, on Feb 20 2009, 02:35 PM, said:

Quote

Bill Status of HB2564 96th General Assembly
Short Description: CRIMINAL LAW-TECH

House Sponsors
Rep. Arthur L. Turner

Last Action
Date Chamber Action
2/20/2009 House Filed with the Clerk by Rep. Arthur L. Turner

Statutes Amended In Order of Appearance
720 ILCS 5/11-9.1 from Ch. 38, par. 11-9.1


Synopsis As Introduced
Amends the Criminal Code of 1961. Makes a technical change in a Section concerning the sexual exploitation of children.

Ya know Coach - that was the exact wording for SB1007 last session that morphed into an standard capacity magazine ban.

Hey, that's right!  Completely slipped my mind...a common occurrence!

[GarandFan]

Art Turner has been known in the past to be anti-gun rights.

http://reparthurturner.com/issues.html

Turner is dedicated to reducing gun violence and he has already passed a law to close the gun shoe loophole that was a major source of guns for gangs and now he is working to pass an assault weapons ban to get dangerous weapons off our streets.

Gun shows a "major source of guns for gangs?"  Not according to the BATFE.

[Ol'Coach]

Yet another:

Bill Status of HB2610 96th General Assembly

Short Description:  CRIM CD-DOMEST BATTERY-ADVISE

House Sponsors
Rep. Constance A. Howard

Last Action
Date Chamber Action
  2/20/2009 House Filed with the Clerk by Rep. Constance A. Howard

Statutes Amended In Order of Appearance
720 ILCS 5/12-3.2 from Ch. 38, par. 12-3.2
720 ILCS 5/12-3.3


Synopsis As Introduced
Amends the Criminal Code of 1961. Provides that upon conviction of domestic battery or aggravated domestic battery, the court shall advise the defendant orally or in writing that an individual convicted of domestic battery or aggravated domestic battery may be subject to federal criminal penalties for possessing, transporting, shipping, or receiving any firearm or ammunition in violation of the federal Gun Control Act of 1968. Provides that a notation shall be made in the court file that the admonition was given. Effective immediately.

[Matt H]

GarandFan, on Feb 20 2009, 03:10 PM, said:

Art Turner is notoriously anti-gun rights.

http://reparthurturner.com/issues.html

Turner is dedicated to reducing gun violence and he has already passed a law to close the gun shoe loophole that was a major source of guns for gangs and now he is working to pass an assault weapons ban to get dangerous weapons off our streets.

Gun shows a "major source of guns for gangs?"  What a lying sack of ****.

'Course he has no idea what a "gun show loophole" or an "assault weapon" is, either ... but that doesn't matter now, does it?

Its not the "gun show loophole" he's trying to close, its the gun SHOE loophole.  I guess the gangbangers must be wearing semi-auto Nikes.

[abolt243]

hodgie, on Feb 20 2009, 03:27 PM, said:

GarandFan, on Feb 20 2009, 03:10 PM, said:

Art Turner is notoriously anti-gun rights.

http://reparthurturner.com/issues.html

Turner is dedicated to reducing gun violence and he has already passed a law to close the gun shoe loophole that was a major source of guns for gangs and now he is working to pass an assault weapons ban to get dangerous weapons off our streets.

Gun shows a "major source of guns for gangs?" What a lying sack of ****.

'Course he has no idea what a "gun show loophole" or an "assault weapon" is, either ... but that doesn't matter now, does it?

Its not the "gun show loophole" he's trying to close, its the gun SHOE loophole. I guess the gangbangers must be wearing semi-auto Nikes.

Yeah, but you should have seen ol' Art at the Sparta shooting grounds last summer at the "Legislative Sportsmen's Caucus" I attended there.  He was a grinnin' and glad handin' everyone just like he was the next great saviour of all second amendment rights. IIRC, he and his brother had an old Winchester 97 that they were going over to trap range to shoot.  Family heirloom or some such stuff.  

Does the word hypocrite fit here???

AB

[Ol'Coach]

HB2541

96TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY
State of Illinois
2009 and 2010
HB2541


Introduced 2/20/2009, by Rep. Constance A. Howard


SYNOPSIS AS INTRODUCED:

730 ILCS 5/3-14-2   from Ch. 38, par. 1003-14-2
730 ILCS 5/3-14-7 new
730 ILCS 5/5-8-1   from Ch. 38, par. 1005-8-1

    Amends the Unified Code of Corrections. Provides that the supervising officer of a person on parole or mandatory supervised release shall request the Department of Corrections to issue a parole violation warrant, and the Department shall issue a parole violation warrant, under certain circumstances. Provides that the mandatory supervised release term for felony domestic battery, aggravated domestic battery, stalking, aggravated stalking, and a felony violation of an order of protection is 4 years. Provides that a person convicted of a felony domestic battery, aggravated domestic battery, stalking, aggravated stalking, or a felony violation of an order of protection shall be supervised during his or her term of parole or mandatory supervised release by a supervising officer who has completed not less than 40 hours of domestic violence and partner abuse intervention training.

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3     © A copy of the conditions of his parole or release shall
4 be signed by the parolee or releasee and given to him and to
5 his supervising officer who shall report on his progress under
6 the rules and regulations of the Prisoner Review Board. The
7 supervising officer shall report violations to the Prisoner
8 Review Board and shall have the full power of peace officers in
9 the arrest and retaking of any parolees or releasees or the
10 officer may request the Department to issue a warrant for the
11 arrest of any parolee or releasee who has allegedly violated
12 his parole or release conditions.
13      (c-1) The supervising officer shall request the Department
14 to issue a parole violation warrant, and the Department shall
15 issue a parole violation warrant, under the following
16 circumstances:
17        (1) If the parolee or releasee commits an act that
18     constitutes a felony using a firearm or knife,

[lordjoker1977]

SB1840

Sen. Gary Forby (D) 59th
Last Action

2/20/2009  Senate  Referred to Assignments

Statutes Amended In Order of Appearance
430 ILCS 65/4 from Ch. 38, par. 83-4
430 ILCS 65/8 from Ch. 38, par. 83-8


Synopsis As Introduced
Amends the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act. Changes, from 21 years of age or over to 18 years of age or over, the age at which a person may apply for and be issued a Firearm Owner's Identification Card without the consent of a parent or legal guardian. Effective immediately.

Actions
Date             Chamber    Action
  2/20/2009 Senate      Filed with Secretary by Sen. Gary Forby
  2/20/2009 Senate       First Reading
  2/20/2009 Senate      Referred to Assignments



SB 1842

Bill Brady,  different wording, same concept

[45superman]

'Kay--thanks.

It might be midday tomorrow before I get these these taken care of, but I'm not ignoring them.

[lordjoker1977]

SB 1873


Senate Sponsors
Sen. Dan Kotowski


2/20/2009 Senate Referred to Assignments

Statutes Amended In Order of Appearance
430 ILCS 65/1 from Ch. 38, par. 83-1


Synopsis As Introduced
Amends the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act. Makes a technical change in a Section concerning legislative policy.

Actions
Date           Chamber Action
  2/20/2009 Senate Filed with Secretary by Sen. Dan Kotowski
  2/20/2009 Senate First Reading
  2/20/2009 Senate Referred to Assignments

Quote

(430 ILCS 65/1) (from Ch. 38, par. 83‑1)
    Sec. 1. It is hereby declared as a matter of legislative determination that in order to promote and protect the health, safety and welfare of the public, it is necessary and in the public interest to provide a system of identifying persons who are not qualified to acquire or possess firearms, firearm ammunition, stun guns, and tasers within the State of Illinois by the establishment of a system of Firearm Owner's Identification Cards, thereby establishing a practical and workable system by which law enforcement authorities will be afforded an opportunity to identify those persons who are prohibited by Section 24‑3.1 of the "Criminal Code of 1961", as amended, from acquiring or possessing firearms and firearm ammunition and who are prohibited by this Act from acquiring stun guns and tasers.
(Source: P.A. 94‑6, eff. 1‑1‑06.)

SB1976

Short Description:  FIREARMS-CONCEALED CARRY

Senate Sponsors
Sen. John O. Jones

Last Action

2/20/2009 Senate Referred to Assignments

Statutes Amended In Order of Appearance
New Act
50 ILCS 705/10.6 new
720 ILCS 5/24-2 from Ch. 38, par. 24-2


Synopsis As Introduced
Creates the Family and Personal Protection Act. Permits the county sheriff to issue permits to carry concealed firearms to persons at least 21 years of age who meet certain requirements. Requires an applicant for a permit to have completed specified training requirements developed by the Illinois Law Enforcement Training Standards Board consisting of classroom instruction and live firing exercises. Preempts home rule. Amends the Illinois Police Training Act and the Criminal Code of 1961 to make conforming changes. Effective immediately.

Actions
Date                 Chamber Action
  2/20/2009 Senate Filed with Secretary by Sen. John O. Jones
  2/20/2009 Senate First Reading
  2/20/2009 Senate Referred to Assignments

[Ol'Coach]

HB2690 covers a lot of territory.

Link to HB2690  


Short Description:  WILDLIFE-MILITARY-NO FEE

House Sponsors
Rep. David R. Leitch

Last Action
Date Chamber Action
  2/23/2009 House Filed with the Clerk by Rep. David R. Leitch

Statutes Amended In Order of Appearance
20 ILCS 805/805-305 was 20 ILCS 805/63a23
515 ILCS 5/20-47
520 ILCS 5/3.1 from Ch. 61, par. 3.1
520 ILCS 5/3.1-4


Synopsis As Introduced
Amends the Department of Natural Resources (Conservation) Law of the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois, the Fish and Aquatic Life Code, and the Wildlife Code. Provides that veterans seeking certain fee and license waivers may apply for those waivers either at the Department's office in Springfield or through the Department's website (now, only at the Department's office in Springfield). In the Department of Natural Resources (Conservation) Law of the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois, inserts a provision requiring a service member who is applying for a waiver of certain camping fees to do so within 2 years after returning from active duty (now, similar provisions exist in the Fish and Aquatic Life Code as well as the Wildlife Code). In the Wildlife Code, provides that any person on active duty with the Armed Forces of the United States who is now and who was at the time of entering the Armed Forces a resident of Illinois and who entered the Armed Forces from this State (now, and who is also presently on ordinary leave from the Armed Forces) may hunt without procuring a license. Effective immediately.
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Among other things:

Quote

© The owners residing on, or bona fide tenants of, farm
6 lands and their children, parents, brothers, and sisters
7 actually permanently residing on their lands shall have the
8 right to hunt any of the species protected by Section 2.2 upon
9 their lands and waters without procuring hunting licenses; but
10 the hunting shall be done only during periods of time and with
11 devices and by methods as are permitted by this Act. Any person
12 on active duty with the Armed Forces of the United States who
13 is now and who was at the time of entering the Armed Forces a
14 resident of Illinois and who entered the Armed Forces from this
15 State, and who is presently on ordinary leave from the Armed
16 Forces, and any resident of Illinois who is disabled may hunt
17 any of the species protected by Section 2.2 without procuring a
18 hunting license, but the hunting shall be done only during such
19 periods of time and with devices and by methods as are
20 permitted by this Act. For the purpose of this Section a person
21 is disabled when that person has a Type 1 or Type 4, Class 2
22 disability as defined in Section 4A of the Illinois
23 Identification Card Act. For purposes of this Section, an
24 Illinois Disabled Person Identification Card issued pursuant
25 to the Illinois Identification Card Act indicating that the
26 person named has a Type 1 or Type 4, Class 2 disability shall




HB2690 - 7 - LRB096 09801 JDS 19964 b

1 be adequate documentation of the disability.

[bob]

illinisnare, on Jan 14 2009, 09:07 PM, said:

What are these 'shell' bills?

A shell bill is just a place holder for something else that will eventually be inserted. Legislators often use these bills to try and sneak a bill in during the amendment process that would have garnered a lot of opposition if people knew what it really was.

[bob]

hodgie, on Jan 14 2009, 09:36 PM, said:

HB 0172 firearms preemption

So am i right in assuming this one would get rid of all the mishmash of city and county restrictions and revert back to the "regular" if you will, state firearms code?

Read carefully.

Quote

430 ILCS 65/13.1)  (from Ch. 38, par. 83-13.1)  
7      Sec. 13.1. Municipal regulation; county regulation  
8  preempted.  
9      (a) The provisions of any ordinance enacted by any  
10  municipality which requires registration or imposes greater  
11  restrictions or limitations on the acquisition, possession and  
12  transfer of firearms than are imposed by this Act, are not  
13  invalidated or affected by this Act.  
14      ( A county, including a home rule county, may not require  
15  registration of firearms or impose greater restrictions or  
16  limitations on the acquisition, possession, transportation,  
17  carrying, and transfer of firearms, firearm attachments, and  
18  firearm ammunition than are imposed by this Act and the  
19  Criminal Code of 1961. This Section is a denial and limitation  
20  under subsection (i) of Section 6 of Article VII of the  
21  Illinois Constitution on the concurrent exercise by a home rule  
22  county of powers and functions exercised by the State.

So existing and future municiapl ordniances are unaffected, while prohibiting such powers to counties.

[45superman]

Ol'Coach, on Feb 20 2009, 03:23 PM, said:

Yet another:

Bill Status of HB2610 96th General Assembly

Short Description:  CRIM CD-DOMEST BATTERY-ADVISE

House Sponsors
Rep. Constance A. Howard

Last Action
Date Chamber Action
  2/20/2009 House Filed with the Clerk by Rep. Constance A. Howard

Statutes Amended In Order of Appearance
720 ILCS 5/12-3.2 from Ch. 38, par. 12-3.2
720 ILCS 5/12-3.3


Synopsis As Introduced
Amends the Criminal Code of 1961. Provides that upon conviction of domestic battery or aggravated domestic battery, the court shall advise the defendant orally or in writing that an individual convicted of domestic battery or aggravated domestic battery may be subject to federal criminal penalties for possessing, transporting, shipping, or receiving any firearm or ammunition in violation of the federal Gun Control Act of 1968. Provides that a notation shall be made in the court file that the admonition was given. Effective immediately.

How do we want to classify this one--bad or neutral?

[abolt243]

45superman, on Feb 24 2009, 04:57 PM, said:

Ol'Coach, on Feb 20 2009, 03:23 PM, said:

Yet another:

Bill Status of HB2610 96th General Assembly

Short Description: CRIM CD-DOMEST BATTERY-ADVISE

House Sponsors
Rep. Constance A. Howard

Last Action
Date Chamber Action
2/20/2009 House Filed with the Clerk by Rep. Constance A. Howard

Statutes Amended In Order of Appearance
720 ILCS 5/12-3.2 from Ch. 38, par. 12-3.2
720 ILCS 5/12-3.3


Synopsis As Introduced
Amends the Criminal Code of 1961. Provides that upon conviction of domestic battery or aggravated domestic battery, the court shall advise the defendant orally or in writing that an individual convicted of domestic battery or aggravated domestic battery may be subject to federal criminal penalties for possessing, transporting, shipping, or receiving any firearm or ammunition in violation of the federal Gun Control Act of 1968. Provides that a notation shall be made in the court file that the admonition was given. Effective immediately.

How do we want to classify this one--bad or neutral?

I'd say neutral.  It doesn't seem to affect the rights of law abiding gun owners.  It only affects those convicted of crimes.

[45superman]

abolt243, on Feb 24 2009, 05:39 PM, said:

I'd say neutral.  It doesn't seem to affect the rights of law abiding gun owners.  It only affects those convicted of crimes.

I was leaning to the neutral classification, too, but for me, the more important reason is that I don't see that it really involves any new penalties--the defendant is simply warned of his being subject to gun laws that are already in place.

[abolt243]

45superman, on Feb 24 2009, 05:44 PM, said:

abolt243, on Feb 24 2009, 05:39 PM, said:

I'd say neutral. It doesn't seem to affect the rights of law abiding gun owners. It only affects those convicted of crimes.

I was leaning to the neutral classification, too, but for me, the more important reason is that I don't see that it really involves any new penalties--the defendant is simply warned of his being subject to gun laws that are already in place.

Isn't is ironic, among other things, that we are so quick to make sure that convicted felons are aware of what laws apply to them now that they've broken others.  They're criminals, they break laws.  They don't care if it's illegal to own a firearm.  If they want one, they'll have it.  

On the other hand, the powers that be are so quick to deny rights to law abiding folks that won't break laws, and because of that put themselves in danger perpetrated by those people who don't obey laws.

[Lou]

What do we think about this one:   HB1032 ?
Aren't these guys our friends?

Short Description:  CRIM CD-USE STOLEN FIREARMS

House Sponsors
Rep. Robert F. Flider - Paul D. Froehlich

Hearings
Judiciary II - Criminal Law Committee Hearing Feb 26 2009 8:00AM Stratton Building Room D-1 Springfield, IL


Last Action
Date Chamber Action
  2/18/2009 House Assigned to Judiciary II - Criminal Law Committee

Statutes Amended In Order of Appearance
720 ILCS 5/24-3 from Ch. 38, par. 24-3
720 ILCS 5/24-3.7 new


Synopsis As Introduced
Amends the Criminal Code of 1961. Provides that a person who sells or gives any firearm to any person who has been convicted of a felony under the laws of this State or any other jurisdiction is guilty of a Class 3 (rather than a Class 4) felony. Creates the offense of use of a stolen firearm in the commission of an offense. Provides that a person commits the offense when he or she knowingly uses a stolen firearm in the commission of any offense and the person knows that the firearm was stolen. Provides that a violation is a Class 2 felony.

Actions
Date Chamber Action
  2/11/2009 House Filed with the Clerk by Rep. Robert F. Flider
  2/11/2009 House First Reading
  2/11/2009 House Referred to Rules Committee
  2/18/2009 House Assigned to Judiciary II - Criminal Law Committee
  2/19/2009 House Added Chief Co-Sponsor Rep. Paul D. Froehlich


edit:  I notoced the ISRA has it on it's SUPPORT list.

Edited by Lou, 25 February 2009 - 10:44 AM.

[abolt243]

Lou, on Feb 25 2009, 10:42 AM, said:

What do we think about this one: HB1032 ?
Aren't these guys our friends?

Short Description: CRIM CD-USE STOLEN FIREARMS

House Sponsors
Rep. Robert F. Flider - Paul D. Froehlich

Hearings
Judiciary II - Criminal Law Committee Hearing Feb 26 2009 8:00AM Stratton Building Room D-1 Springfield, IL


Last Action
Date Chamber Action
2/18/2009 House Assigned to Judiciary II - Criminal Law Committee

Statutes Amended In Order of Appearance
720 ILCS 5/24-3 from Ch. 38, par. 24-3
720 ILCS 5/24-3.7 new


Synopsis As Introduced
Amends the Criminal Code of 1961. Provides that a person who sells or gives any firearm to any person who has been convicted of a felony under the laws of this State or any other jurisdiction is guilty of a Class 3 (rather than a Class 4) felony. Creates the offense of use of a stolen firearm in the commission of an offense. Provides that a person commits the offense when he or she knowingly uses a stolen firearm in the commission of any offense and the person knows that the firearm was stolen. Provides that a violation is a Class 2 felony.

Actions
Date Chamber Action
2/11/2009 House Filed with the Clerk by Rep. Robert F. Flider
2/11/2009 House First Reading
2/11/2009 House Referred to Rules Committee
2/18/2009 House Assigned to Judiciary II - Criminal Law Committee
2/19/2009 House Added Chief Co-Sponsor Rep. Paul D. Froehlich


edit: I notoced the ISRA has it on it's SUPPORT list.

Looks to me like it strengthens one law and creates another offense to charge criminals that use stolen firearms.  While it might qualify as WFFG legislation, it imposes no hardship or infringement on the rights of law abiding citizens that I see.  Pass this and we can point to it as an example of the gun lobby's willingness to help pass "crime fighting legislation".

JMHO.
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[Ol'Coach]

Link to HB3750

96TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY
State of Illinois
2009 and 2010
HB3750


Introduced , by Rep. Careen M Gordon


SYNOPSIS AS INTRODUCED:

720 ILCS 5/12-4.3   from Ch. 38, par. 12-4.3
720 ILCS 5/12-14.1

    Amends the Criminal Code of 1961. Provides that aggravated battery of a child is a Class X felony for which the person shall be sentenced to a term of imprisonment of not less than 30 years and not more than 60 years. Provides that a person convicted of a second or subsequent violation of the offense of aggravated battery of a child shall be sentenced to a term of natural life imprisonment. Provides that a person convicted of predatory criminal sexual assault of a child shall be sentenced to a term of natural life imprisonment.

Amended as noted below.  The par re: firearms wouldn't change, but other wording does, as noted.
Lots more that is struck out further down in the amended bill.

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(1) Aggravated battery of a child under subsection (a) of
22 this Section is a Class X felony for which the person shall be
23 sentenced to a term of imprisonment of not less than 30 years




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1 and not more than 60 years, except that:
2         (A) if the person committed the offense while armed
3     with a firearm, 15 years shall be added to the term of
4     imprisonment imposed by the court;
5         ( if, during the commission of the offense, the
6     person personally discharged a firearm, 20 years shall be
7     added to the term of imprisonment imposed by the court;

[45superman]

Since HB 3750 wouldn't change anything to do with firearms, I'm tempted to not worry about it.  Careen Gordon has always been good to us, so I'm not too worried about this one.

[Ol'Coach]

A shell bill to watch?

96TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY
State of Illinois
2009 and 2010
HB3772


Introduced , by Rep. Dan Reitz


SYNOPSIS AS INTRODUCED:

20 ILCS 655/1   from Ch. 67 1/2, par. 601

    Amends the Illinois Enterprise Zone Act. Makes a technical change in a Section concerning the short title.

A BILL FOR

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1     AN ACT concerning State government.

2     Be it enacted by the People of the State of Illinois,
3 represented in the General Assembly:

4     Section 5. The Illinois Enterprise Zone Act is amended by
5 changing Section 1 as follows:

6     (20 ILCS 655/1)  (from Ch. 67 1/2, par. 601)
7     Sec. 1. This Act shall be known and and may be cited as the
8 "Illinois Enterprise Zone Act".

[Ol'Coach]

HB3991

Link to HB3991

Synopsis As Introduced
Amends the Firearm Owner Identification Card Act. Requires (instead of permits) the Department of State Police to deny an application or to revoke and seize a Firearm Owner's Identification Card previously issued under the Act if the Department finds that the applicant or person to whom such card was issued is or was at the time of issuance the subject to an existing order of protection. Amends the Domestic Violence Article of the Code of Criminal Procedure of 1963 and the Illinois Domestic Violence Act of 1986. Provides that if the court is satisfied that there is any danger of the illegal use of firearms, it shall include in the order of protection the requirement that any Firearm Owner's Identification Card of the respondent be turned over to the local law enforcement agency for safekeeping.

[rubble]

Ol'Coach, on Feb 27 2009, 05:35 AM, said:

HB3991

Link to HB3991

Synopsis As Introduced
Amends the Firearm Owner Identification Card Act. Requires (instead of permits) the Department of State Police to deny an application or to revoke and seize a Firearm Owner's Identification Card previously issued under the Act if the Department finds that the applicant or person to whom such card was issued is or was at the time of issuance the subject to an existing order of protection. Amends the Domestic Violence Article of the Code of Criminal Procedure of 1963 and the Illinois Domestic Violence Act of 1986. Provides that if the court is satisfied that there is any danger of the illegal use of firearms, it shall include in the order of protection the requirement that any Firearm Owner's Identification Card of the respondent be turned over to the local law enforcement agency for safekeeping.

The intent looks good but this should probably go on the watch list.

[abolt243]

rubble, on Feb 27 2009, 06:16 AM, said:

Ol'Coach, on Feb 27 2009, 05:35 AM, said:

HB3991

Link to HB3991

Synopsis As Introduced
Amends the Firearm Owner Identification Card Act. Requires (instead of permits) the Department of State Police to deny an application or to revoke and seize a Firearm Owner's Identification Card previously issued under the Act if the Department finds that the applicant or person to whom such card was issued is or was at the time of issuance the subject to an existing order of protection. Amends the Domestic Violence Article of the Code of Criminal Procedure of 1963 and the Illinois Domestic Violence Act of 1986. Provides that if the court is satisfied that there is any danger of the illegal use of firearms, it shall include in the order of protection the requirement that any Firearm Owner's Identification Card of the respondent be turned over to the local law enforcement agency for safekeeping.

The intent looks good but this should probably go on the watch list.

Should read that the person for whom the Order was intended to protect be issued a .38 and a box of shells and be taught how to use them.  The subject of the OOP should be informed of that fact.

Sorry, I'm in one of those moods this morning.
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