When I asked for that info under the FIA 2+ yrs ago, I was told it wasn't tracked. One officer told me that it was at one time, but halted somewhere around 1994.
Daley first took office in 1989.
How difficult could it be? They DO fill out an incident report, right? check the box: FOID? Yes.....no
'course, 1st they gotta catch the shooter!
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Posted 25 July 2008 - 10:54 AM
Ol, on Jul 25 2008, 11:32 AM, said:
When I asked for that info under the FIA 2+ yrs ago, I was told it wasn't tracked. One officer told me that it was at one time, but halted somewhere around 1994.
Daley first took office in 1989.
How difficult could it be? They DO fill out an incident report, right? check the box: FOID? Yes.....no
'course, 1st they gotta catch the shooter!
Daley first took office in 1989.
How difficult could it be? They DO fill out an incident report, right? check the box: FOID? Yes.....no
'course, 1st they gotta catch the shooter!
Another interesting fact that I can't find the source for but I'm sure I read. In some states with LTC laws, initially the law required an annual report to be filed with the state re: crimes committed by LTC holders. After a few years of licensing, that requirement was dropped becsause there were very few if any to report and the expense of the report was deemed to be in excess of the benefit.
Maybe I'll think of or stumble onto the source.
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Posted 28 July 2008 - 07:48 PM
polhms1, on Jul 28 2008, 08:37 PM, said:
A master seargent at the ISP sent me these figures:
238,805 FOID applications received
7,326 denied FOID applications
1.2 million FOID card holders
5,179 revoked FOID cards
1,668 revoked FOID cards returned to ISP
238,805 FOID applications received
7,326 denied FOID applications
1.2 million FOID card holders
5,179 revoked FOID cards
1,668 revoked FOID cards returned to ISP
What year was this?
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Big Chris, on Jul 28 2008, 08:48 PM, said:
polhms1, on Jul 28 2008, 08:37 PM, said:
A master seargent at the ISP sent me these figures:
238,805 FOID applications received
7,326 denied FOID applications
1.2 million FOID card holders
5,179 revoked FOID cards
1,668 revoked FOID cards returned to ISP
238,805 FOID applications received
7,326 denied FOID applications
1.2 million FOID card holders
5,179 revoked FOID cards
1,668 revoked FOID cards returned to ISP
What year was this?
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I will stand by that oath for as long as I live.
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I would like to remind everyone we have a meeting Tue. evening at 5:30 and Pearl Hawks has been invited to explain her side of the issue. She was told to bring anybody that is against CC that she wanted to to speak against the issue & she was told to please bring facts not feelings so we will see if she shows up. We could use about 40 people for this one because the media will be there in full force if they know the anti's are showing up.
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Posted 04 August 2008 - 06:33 PM
polhms1, on Aug 3 2008, 09:54 AM, said:
I would like to remind everyone we have a meeting Tue. evening at 5:30 and Pearl Hawks has been invited to explain her side of the issue. She was told to bring anybody that is against CC that she wanted to to speak against the issue & she was told to please bring facts not feelings so we will see if she shows up. We could use about 40 people for this one because the media will be there in full force if they know the anti's are showing up.
Looks like I should be able to make this one. Will this be held @ the County Administration Building?
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Posted 05 August 2008 - 02:53 PM
I will have raffle tickets for sale at the meeting tonight. This is going to be a good one Pearl was invited to tell her side of the issue tonight we will see if she shows up. She has had 2 weeks to round up people for tonights meeting though I hope we can outnumber the anti's I haven't heard from too many people if they are coming or not. So I guess we will see when we get there
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polhms1, on Aug 5 2008, 03:53 PM, said:
I will have raffle tickets for sale at the meeting tonight. This is going to be a good one Pearl was invited to tell her side of the issue tonight we will see if she shows up. She has had 2 weeks to round up people for tonights meeting though I hope we can outnumber the anti's I haven't heard from too many people if they are coming or not. So I guess we will see when we get there
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Posted 05 August 2008 - 08:09 PM
Mr. Runyon, on Aug 5 2008, 08:14 PM, said:
polhms1, on Aug 5 2008, 03:53 PM, said:
I will have raffle tickets for sale at the meeting tonight. This is going to be a good one Pearl was invited to tell her side of the issue tonight we will see if she shows up. She has had 2 weeks to round up people for tonights meeting though I hope we can outnumber the anti's I haven't heard from too many people if they are coming or not. So I guess we will see when we get there
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but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda,
they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles." — Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle
but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda,
they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles." — Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle
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Posted 05 August 2008 - 08:14 PM
I went along with hodgie, Polhms1, JBomb, Board9, Traken, First Officer Grimes.
Pearl and Company did not show but they discussed parts of the legislation.
More to come on a Booth at the Winnebago County fair and a meeting at Boone county on monday.
County Fair:
http://illinoiscarry...s...c=11408&hl=
Boone County:
http://illinoiscarry...s...c=11407&hl=
Pearl and Company did not show but they discussed parts of the legislation.
More to come on a Booth at the Winnebago County fair and a meeting at Boone county on monday.
County Fair:
http://illinoiscarry...s...c=11408&hl=
Boone County:
http://illinoiscarry...s...c=11407&hl=
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Ok here's a better update, now that I don't have a burrito in my hand.
There was no coverage by the media, possibly one guy from a newspaper.
No Pearl and no one against us, no new faces either.
The main thing they did was enter on the record some data they received from the Rockford PD.
Then they went through the resolution and cut out some parts they didn't like, eg no longer leaving in the part that makes who's a permit holder public record and they were checking into why there was a passage that considered .05 a DUI instead of following Illinois State Law.
That's about it, next meeting in two weeks.
There was no coverage by the media, possibly one guy from a newspaper.
No Pearl and no one against us, no new faces either.
The main thing they did was enter on the record some data they received from the Rockford PD.
Then they went through the resolution and cut out some parts they didn't like, eg no longer leaving in the part that makes who's a permit holder public record and they were checking into why there was a passage that considered .05 a DUI instead of following Illinois State Law.
That's about it, next meeting in two weeks.
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.....they were checking into why there was a passage that considered .05 a DUI instead of following Illinois State Law.
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes,
but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda,
they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles." — Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle
but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda,
they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles." — Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle
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Posted 09 August 2008 - 12:27 AM
polhms1, on Jul 28 2008, 08:37 PM, said:
A master seargent at the ISP sent me these figures:
238,805 FOID applications received
7,326 denied FOID applications
1.2 million FOID card holders
5,179 revoked FOID cards
1,668 revoked FOID cards returned to ISP
238,805 FOID applications received
7,326 denied FOID applications
1.2 million FOID card holders
5,179 revoked FOID cards
1,668 revoked FOID cards returned to ISP
Okay so that's:
0.2543 or .0025 % of annual (2007, I believe someone mentioned) applications denied
0.0004325 or .0000043% of FOID cardholders revoked (too bad they didn't give a breakdown by and possible reasons for revocation, e.g. death, arrest, conviction, etc.)
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Posted 11 August 2008 - 07:59 AM
scout26, on Aug 9 2008, 01:27 AM, said:
polhms1, on Jul 28 2008, 08:37 PM, said:
A master seargent at the ISP sent me these figures:
238,805 FOID applications received
7,326 denied FOID applications
1.2 million FOID card holders
5,179 revoked FOID cards
1,668 revoked FOID cards returned to ISP
238,805 FOID applications received
7,326 denied FOID applications
1.2 million FOID card holders
5,179 revoked FOID cards
1,668 revoked FOID cards returned to ISP
Okay so that's:
0.2543 or .0025 % of annual (2007, I believe someone mentioned) applications denied
0.0004325 or .0000043% of FOID cardholders revoked (too bad they didn't give a breakdown by and possible reasons for revocation, e.g. death, arrest, conviction, etc.)
Shouldn't that be .030677 or 3% of annual applications denied and .0043158 or .43% of FOID cardholders per year revoked?
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Posted 12 August 2008 - 08:23 PM
I wasn't able to go tonight -- one of the only times I didn't make it 
I'm planning on being at the fair tomorrow and helping to man the booth and pass stuff out. Hope I'll see some of you there either tomorrow and/or thurs, fri
I'm planning on being at the fair tomorrow and helping to man the booth and pass stuff out. Hope I'll see some of you there either tomorrow and/or thurs, fri
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Posted 12 August 2008 - 08:29 PM
I don't believe there was a meeting tonight.
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