77 replies to this topic

[Mr. Fife]

What if you don't have a fax machine?

[pdpsc]

What if you don't have a fax machine?

You take a time machine back to 1980 and get one.

[RacerDave6]

What if you don't have a fax machine?

Go to Staples office center.

[Packy]

email address: instructor_docs@isp.state.il.us This was the email they told me. And you must make note that your credentials have expired and you are attaching new one.

[JSharp]

I faxed mine *twice* and got a receive error both times.  I did ask them on the fax cover to confirm receipt but I doubt they'll bother since they didn't bother to notify us in the first F&^%$! place. I suppose this means I'll also get to call ISP to make sure they got them.

 

Edit: NP, I just scanned and emailed it too after seeing the email address listed. I marked the email for a return receipt. As if that will stop them from 'overlooking' what I sent.

Edited by JSharp, 12 August 2014 - 06:20 AM.

[3ddiver]

They are going to have a pile of fax paper this morning when they hit the office.

[JSharp]

They are going to have a pile of fax paper this morning when they hit the office.

 

Doubtful. The FAX machine feeds straight in to the shredder...

Edited by JSharp, 12 August 2014 - 06:22 AM.

[Mr. Fife]

I've had previous conversations about CCL Instructor issues with Carl Weitzel at ISP. Supposedly he was the guy in charge to handle any CCL instructor issues.

 

Carl J. Weitzel
Concealed Carry Section
Instructors and Curriculum
217-558-5361

 

So I sent him an email asking for details about how instructors should update their credentials when needed.

Unfortunately, the email bounced.

 

Could it be that we no longer have this great contact at ISP?

 

I would like to see this thread pinned so that instructors don't get caught up in the ISP CCL contact person issues.

This needs resolved.

 

 

Edited by Mr. Fife, 12 August 2014 - 09:06 PM.

[InterestedBystander]

I've had previous conversations about CCL Instructor issues with Carl Weitzel at ISP. Supposedly he was the guy in charge to handle any CCL instructor issues.

 

Carl J. Weitzel
Concealed Carry Section
Instructors and Curriculum
217-558-5361

 

So I sent him an email asking for details about how instructors should update their credentials when needed.

Unfortunately, the email bounced.

 

Could it be that we no longer have this great contact at ISP?

His LinkedIn profile still lists ISP Concealed Carry Coordinator.   This document, http://www.docstoc.c...EMAIL-DIRECTORY, indicates a dot i.e. "." between first and last instead of an underscore if that makes a difference.  Could be it's not current.

Edited by InterestedBystander, 12 August 2014 - 09:43 PM.

[Pepeskids@2014]

You can also try
Jhon_wolf@isp.il.us

James Wolf
Concealed Carry Unit
Instructors and Curriculum
217-782-9855

[Mr. Fife]

 

I've had previous conversations about CCL Instructor issues with Carl Weitzel at ISP. Supposedly he was the guy in charge to handle any CCL instructor issues.

 

Carl J. Weitzel
Concealed Carry Section
Instructors and Curriculum
217-558-5361

 

So I sent him an email asking for details about how instructors should update their credentials when needed.

Unfortunately, the email bounced.

 

Could it be that we no longer have this great contact at ISP?

His LinkedIn profile still lists ISP Concealed Carry Coordinator.   This document, http://www.docstoc.c...EMAIL-DIRECTORY, indicates a dot i.e. "." between first and last instead of an underscore if that makes a difference.  Could be it's not current.

 

I used the address from a previous correspondence with him. I'll try the others tomorrow.

[JSharp]

I'm not sure if it was the multiple FAX's or the email but I got a notice back this morning saying my credentials had been updated. Apparently it is possible to do this...

[THE KING]

Friend and fellow instructor called to ask if I knew my instructor creds had been revoked? Did not know that! Called ISP and it was because the NRA credentials I sent them with application have an expiration date and I renewed before they expired but did not up date with ISP. Never occurred to me that they would just revoke without checking. My bad!

 

A big THANK YOU for posting this. I personally didn't even think about this. You would think the ISP would have given us a heads up. On second thought why would they want to help us out even a little. Dagnabit.

[bobapunk]

I'm not sure if it was the multiple FAX's or the email but I got a notice back this morning saying my credentials had been updated. Apparently it is possible to do this...

 

What method did they use to get this notice to you?

[bobapunk]

bobapunk, hope you get it straightened out. Only consolation is it appears instructors I respect did not know about this either! Just don't get why they want to screw with the "good guys", seams they should be busy enough with real problems!

 

You and me both.  I faxed them everything on Monday.  The fax did go through so hopefully everything goes as it should on the ISP end. I will probably call them next week to find out.

[dennyg]

In my case, it was an email received this morning. I had emailed them my info yesterday.

[JSharp]

 

I'm not sure if it was the multiple FAX's or the email but I got a notice back this morning saying my credentials had been updated. Apparently it is possible to do this...

 

What method did they use to get this notice to you?

 

Email. I asked them to confirm via fax or email. I got a simple 'Your instructor credentials have been updated' from the Instructor_Docs@isp email address.

[AJR]

Not bad. It took them just a day and half to respond to my email. (I did send it to 2 different email addresses and a fax)

==========================================================

 

From: <Instructor_Docs@isp.state.il.us>
Date: Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 11:47 AM

 

Your instructor credentials have been updated.  Thank you.

Illinois State Police
Concealed Carry Firearms 
Instructor/Curriculum Section
801 S Seventh Street, Suite 400-M
Springfield, IL  62703

[JSharp]

 

Friend and fellow instructor called to ask if I knew my instructor creds had been revoked? Did not know that! Called ISP and it was because the NRA credentials I sent them with application have an expiration date and I renewed before they expired but did not up date with ISP. Never occurred to me that they would just revoke without checking. My bad!

 

A big THANK YOU for posting this. I personally didn't even think about this. You would think the ISP would have given us a heads up. On second thought why would they want to help us out even a little. Dagnabit.

 

 

+1 on this. I certainly would have never known otherwise and I would have gotten nailed. I planned on waiting until the day my NRA certs expired before renewing them and I sure wouldn't have thought to notify ISP.

[leaddog]

A BIG THANK YOU for the heads up on this!  It never occurred to me that I would need to notify ISP.

 

Thank you again!

[AJR]

A BIG THANK YOU for the heads up on this!  It never occurred to me that I would need to notify ISP.

 

Thank you again!

+1

[45b]

Emailed mine after renewal, but have not gotten any reply at all.

 

Will just have to wait and see.

 

I am still on the list as good.

[THE KING]

Playing it safe, I E-Mailed and Faxed my updated and current credentials yesterday afternoon.

 

And this morning, I received an E-Mail from the ISP stating that my credentials have been updated and that I am current.

[Paints-n-cows]

That was mighty nice of them to let us know about that.

 

I just sent in my updated stuff via email.  I know of several other guys teaching that won't know about it either so I will spread the word.

[sirflyguy]

 

 

Friend and fellow instructor called to ask if I knew my instructor creds had been revoked? Did not know that! Called ISP and it was because the NRA credentials I sent them with application have an expiration date and I renewed before they expired but did not up date with ISP. Never occurred to me that they would just revoke without checking. My bad!

 

A big THANK YOU for posting this. I personally didn't even think about this. You would think the ISP would have given us a heads up. On second thought why would they want to help us out even a little. Dagnabit.

 

 

+1 on this. I certainly would have never known otherwise and I would have gotten nailed. I planned on waiting until the day my NRA certs expired before renewing them and I sure wouldn't have thought to notify ISP.

 

I think if you renew them ahead of time, they will still extend them to the 2 years past your regular expiration date.  When I paid my fee for my new Personal Protection in the Home instructor status a few months ago, they re-upped all of my credentials and extended the from December of this year (the regular expiration date).  

[Elmer Fudd]

Its standard now that when you add a discipline with NRA for $20 it extends your renewal on everything.....for those of use with 10 or better disciplines its a real savings and hassle reduction. 

[Paints-n-cows]

I got my email confirmation tonight that they updated my expiration of my NRA certifications.  I sent it to them on the 17th and it was around 3 pm today that I got the email from the ISP

[Mr. Fife]

I sent my update by email a couple days ago. Still waiting to hear back from them.

[aka]

I got a letter from the ISP couple of weeks ago telling me that my instructor permit was revoked - after waiting on the phone for over 30 minutes I found out that my NRA credentials had expired. Sent I SP the scan of updated credentials. Hopefully keeping my fingers crossed.

 

The bad part was that they letter did not state why they were revoking my instructor credentials. 

 

The good part - the lady at ISP on the phone was very helpful.

[Mr. Fife]

ISP website:

 

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