Molly B. Posted April 6, 2018 at 11:03 PM Share Posted April 6, 2018 at 11:03 PM The time for renewing IL Concealed Carry Licenses will be here before we know it. The course requirements are listed in the statute and on the ISP web page. New information may become available from the ISP and IllinoisCarry will make every effort to update this post at that time. 3-HOUR RENEWAL CURRICULUMRenewal Firearm Curriculum must be at least 3 hours and include:1. All applicable State and Federal laws relating to the ownership, storage, carry, and transportation of a firearm; 2 hours Classroom Recommended a. The Act relating to the ownership, storage, carry and transportation of a firearm 1) with emphasis on 430 ILCS 66/10(h) which includes instruction on the appropriate and lawful interaction with law enforcement while transporting or carrying a concealed firearm. 2) with emphasis on 430 ILCS 66/65 which includes instruction on prohibited areas and the parking lot exception. b. The FOID Act 430 ILCS 65/1 et. seq. c. Relevant portions of the ILCS including but not limited to1) 720 ILCS 5/7-1. Use of force in defense of a person**2) 720 ILCS 5/7-2. Use of force in defense of dwelling**3) 720 ILCS 5/7-3. Use of force in defense of other property**4) 720 ILCS 24/1 et. seq. Unlawful Use of Weapons**** Must define dwelling, aggressor, forcible felony and unlawful use of weapons pursuant to the ILCS.2. Weapon Handling; 1 hour Range Recommended a. Handgun fundamentals b. Handgun concealment c. Live fire qualification instruction d. Live fire qualification with a concealable firearm consisting of minimum of 30 rounds which mustinclude 10 rounds from a distance of 5 yards; 10 rounds from a distance of 7 yards; and 10 roundsfrom a distance of 10 yards at a B-27 silhouette target approved by the Illinois State Police. (Seewww.isp.state.il.us/firearms/ccw/ccw-faq.cfm) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted April 6, 2018 at 11:12 PM Share Posted April 6, 2018 at 11:12 PM · Hidden by Molly B., May 1, 2018 at 07:06 PM - No reason given Hidden by Molly B., May 1, 2018 at 07:06 PM - No reason given As an instructor I have everything ready to go. To me the biggest concern is when the ISP plans on creating a certificate to issue to the students. Speaking for myself, I use an outdoor range and conduct my classes weather permitting. If they wait until late fall to create a certificate I and possibly a number of other instructors may not be able to teach the required refresher course. Do we have any idea when they will release the required certificate. Link to comment
Molly B. Posted April 6, 2018 at 11:42 PM Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 at 11:42 PM · Hidden by Molly B., May 1, 2018 at 07:06 PM - No reason given Hidden by Molly B., May 1, 2018 at 07:06 PM - No reason given As an instructor I have everything ready to go. To me the biggest concern is when the ISP plans on creating a certificate to issue to the students. Speaking for myself, I use an outdoor range and conduct my classes weather permitting. If they wait until late fall to create a certificate I and possibly a number of other instructors may not be able to teach the required refresher course. Do we have any idea when they will release the required certificate. I am hoping they will finalize the certificate after the end of session. Link to comment
THE KING Posted April 6, 2018 at 11:46 PM Share Posted April 6, 2018 at 11:46 PM · Hidden by Molly B., May 1, 2018 at 07:06 PM - No reason given Hidden by Molly B., May 1, 2018 at 07:06 PM - No reason given Silly question, but when is the end of session. Link to comment
InterestedBystander Posted April 7, 2018 at 12:36 AM Share Posted April 7, 2018 at 12:36 AM · Hidden by Molly B., May 1, 2018 at 07:06 PM - No reason given Hidden by Molly B., May 1, 2018 at 07:06 PM - No reason given Silly question, but when is the end of session. I believe Spring session runs through May 31 unless there is a special call, but they return later in the year, Novemberish I believe. Link to comment
THE KING Posted April 7, 2018 at 12:38 AM Share Posted April 7, 2018 at 12:38 AM · Hidden by Molly B., May 1, 2018 at 07:06 PM - No reason given Hidden by Molly B., May 1, 2018 at 07:06 PM - No reason given Silly question, but when is the end of session. I believe Spring session runs through May 31 unless there is a special call, but they return later in the year, Novemberish I believe.Thank you Link to comment
InterestedBystander Posted April 7, 2018 at 12:46 AM Share Posted April 7, 2018 at 12:46 AM · Hidden by Molly B., May 1, 2018 at 07:06 PM - No reason given Hidden by Molly B., May 1, 2018 at 07:06 PM - No reason given Silly question, but when is the end of session. I believe Spring session runs through May 31 unless there is a special call, but they return later in the year, Novemberish I believe.Thank youMauserme or someone else will know Im sure. Was looking on their site for schedules but now Im not sure what, if anything, is between June and Nov. Link to comment
ScopeEye Posted April 7, 2018 at 01:35 AM Share Posted April 7, 2018 at 01:35 AM · Hidden by Molly B., May 1, 2018 at 07:06 PM - No reason given Hidden by Molly B., May 1, 2018 at 07:06 PM - No reason given Bump and Tagged... Sign me up My CCL was one of the first printed Don't want to wait till the last minute... Link to comment
Hipshot Percussion Posted April 7, 2018 at 01:48 AM Share Posted April 7, 2018 at 01:48 AM Any other info like - How much in advance can we take our refresher course and does the certificate expire at any particular time? How far in advance should we send in for our renewel? Will our renewal date for the license run consecutively with the old one? Or will it start with the renewal? (Like, if I send it in 60 days before my expiration, will the new license use the new date if earlier? or the old date, so we don't lose any time. Will it be a background check and done? Or will it be the complete process again - Fed, ISP and local ability to object? This could be a real problem for Cook County people, in terms of giving the County a second shot at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted April 7, 2018 at 02:52 AM Share Posted April 7, 2018 at 02:52 AM · Hidden by Molly B., May 1, 2018 at 07:06 PM - No reason given Hidden by Molly B., May 1, 2018 at 07:06 PM - No reason given Am I right in understanding that instructors do not need to take the course? Do we know yet what the process for renewals will be for instructors? Link to comment
Molly B. Posted April 7, 2018 at 01:31 PM Author Share Posted April 7, 2018 at 01:31 PM · Hidden by Molly B., May 1, 2018 at 07:06 PM - No reason given Hidden by Molly B., May 1, 2018 at 07:06 PM - No reason given Am I right in understanding that instructors do not need to take the course? Do we know yet what the process for renewals will be for instructors? There 'should' be a check box for instructor exemption for training. We'll see. Link to comment
Helpdesk9 Posted April 7, 2018 at 02:07 PM Share Posted April 7, 2018 at 02:07 PM · Hidden by Molly B., May 1, 2018 at 07:06 PM - No reason given Hidden by Molly B., May 1, 2018 at 07:06 PM - No reason given I am concerned that after having an objection for my original CCL, that there will be a problem getting a renewal. Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk Link to comment
Terry 9595 Posted April 15, 2018 at 10:38 PM Share Posted April 15, 2018 at 10:38 PM · Hidden by Molly B., May 1, 2018 at 07:06 PM - No reason given Hidden by Molly B., May 1, 2018 at 07:06 PM - No reason given I hope someone here will tell us when there is a new 3 hour certificate to use. Maybe a little information like when can we / should we give classes. Thanks to all that are part of this forum, and those that work so hard. Link to comment
semper1911 Posted May 1, 2018 at 01:17 PM Share Posted May 1, 2018 at 01:17 PM · Hidden by Molly B., May 1, 2018 at 07:06 PM - No reason given Hidden by Molly B., May 1, 2018 at 07:06 PM - No reason given I call ISP with these concern's on the certificate and other concern's addressed above, in Feb. and again last week. The first response was they was not sure, and they didn't even know for sure if the online system was set up for renewal (it is now). Last week, I asked again and they refered me to "if your curriculum is approved for renewal follow it, we are not sure when the new certificate will be done, but they are working on it." I then asked, if I provide training and give them a renewal certificate of my own would that work, they said "NO, it must be a ISP cert." I then asked if it will be available again, "to ensure that people get renewal done for the 6 months prior, to ensure continuity", reply "they are working on it". I asked about when the Instructor renewal will be ready, again "they are working on it". So, they are working on it! Link to comment
Molly B. Posted May 1, 2018 at 06:30 PM Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 at 06:30 PM Today, CCL instructors received the new certificate templates for the 3-hr renewal course and the regular 8/16 hrs. CCL course, along with instructor responsibilities packet, suggested roster, and suggested verification of prior training form. If you are an instructor and did not receive the packet and templates, you should email the ISP instructor department and request the documents: Instructor_Docs@isp.state.il.us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semper1911 Posted May 1, 2018 at 06:44 PM Share Posted May 1, 2018 at 06:44 PM Thank you, have not got it yet, will email them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted May 1, 2018 at 07:14 PM Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 at 07:14 PM Any other info like - How much in advance can we take our refresher course and does the certificate expire at any particular time? How far in advance should we send in for our renewel? Will our renewal date for the license run consecutively with the old one? Or will it start with the renewal? (Like, if I send it in 60 days before my expiration, will the new license use the new date if earlier? or the old date, so we don't lose any time. Will it be a background check and done? Or will it be the complete process again - Fed, ISP and local ability to object? This could be a real problem for Cook County people, in terms of giving the County a second shot at them. 1. There is no rule on expiration of training. A new certificate was just issued to instructors so it should not expire any time soon either.2. The renewal option on your CCL dashboard site will dictate this. IWe don't know yet when it will become active.3. No idea - what do they do for the FOID? Does it renew from expiration date or renewal date?4. I would bet it will be the full background check with window open to file objections, in case incidents have happened since the original application. Yes, it could be a problem for Cook County residents. We have discussed this with the ISP and Review Board counsel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STR8*SHOT Posted May 1, 2018 at 07:49 PM Share Posted May 1, 2018 at 07:49 PM CLIC PROGRAM available for the three hour re-certification? Hope so. Plz Advz Thnx Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted May 1, 2018 at 07:56 PM Share Posted May 1, 2018 at 07:56 PM OMG, I expected this to take til the end of the year. VERY NICE. I have one question. After July 1, 2018 they will no longer accept the old version of the 16 hour certificate. What happens if a student that has taken the class and has an old version of the certificate but doesn't apply until after July 1, 2018. Will the ISP accept the old certificate or are we going to have to issue a new certificate with the original class date on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Q Public Posted May 1, 2018 at 08:59 PM Share Posted May 1, 2018 at 08:59 PM yYou get a background check everyday when you have a FOID and or CCL they run a background check every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted May 1, 2018 at 09:10 PM Share Posted May 1, 2018 at 09:10 PM yYou get a background check everyday when you have a FOID and or CCL they run a background check every day.CCL also runs quarterly Federal checks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted May 1, 2018 at 09:22 PM Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 at 09:22 PM CLIC PROGRAM available for the three hour re-certification? Hope so. Plz Advz Thnx Jerry CLIC curriculum is approved for the 3-hr. renewal course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hipshot Percussion Posted May 1, 2018 at 09:28 PM Share Posted May 1, 2018 at 09:28 PM Any other info like - How much in advance can we take our refresher course and does the certificate expire at any particular time? How far in advance should we send in for our renewel? Will our renewal date for the license run consecutively with the old one? Or will it start with the renewal? (Like, if I send it in 60 days before my expiration, will the new license use the new date if earlier? or the old date, so we don't lose any time. Will it be a background check and done? Or will it be the complete process again - Fed, ISP and local ability to object? This could be a real problem for Cook County people, in terms of giving the County a second shot at them. 1. There is no rule on expiration of training. A new certificate was just issued to instructors so it should not expire any time soon either.2. The renewal option on your CCL dashboard site will dictate this. IWe don't know yet when it will become active.3. No idea - what do they do for the FOID? Does it renew from expiration date or renewal date?4. I would bet it will be the full background check with window open to file objections, in case incidents have happened since the original application. Yes, it could be a problem for Cook County residents. We have discussed this with the ISP and Review Board counsel. Thanks, Molly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howie Posted May 1, 2018 at 10:02 PM Share Posted May 1, 2018 at 10:02 PM Once again, ISP has left me out in the cold. I'm beginning to see a pattern here. E-mail sent. Thanks Molly. If it weren't for this forum I wouldn't have a clue what's going on. I've received one E-mail from ISP since I became an instructor. Anyone else having similar issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted May 1, 2018 at 10:05 PM Share Posted May 1, 2018 at 10:05 PM Once again, ISP has left me out in the cold. I'm beginning to see a pattern here. E-mail sent. Thanks Molly. If it weren't for this forum I wouldn't have a clue what's going on. I've received one E-mail from ISP since I became an instructor. Anyone else having similar issues?Check your Spam folder. I have had some emails go to Spam when they shouldn't have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howie Posted May 1, 2018 at 10:08 PM Share Posted May 1, 2018 at 10:08 PM Once again, ISP has left me out in the cold. I'm beginning to see a pattern here. E-mail sent. Thanks Molly. If it weren't for this forum I wouldn't have a clue what's going on. I've received one E-mail from ISP since I became an instructor. Anyone else having similar issues?Check your Spam folder. I have had some emails go to Spam when they shouldn't have. Nothing there, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted May 1, 2018 at 10:09 PM Share Posted May 1, 2018 at 10:09 PM Once again, ISP has left me out in the cold. I'm beginning to see a pattern here. E-mail sent. Thanks Molly. If it weren't for this forum I wouldn't have a clue what's going on. I've received one E-mail from ISP since I became an instructor. Anyone else having similar issues? Check your Spam folder. I have had some emails go to Spam when they shouldn't have.Nothing there, either.Well I tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RacerDave6 Posted May 1, 2018 at 10:15 PM Share Posted May 1, 2018 at 10:15 PM I didn't get it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STR8*SHOT Posted May 2, 2018 at 02:44 AM Share Posted May 2, 2018 at 02:44 AM CLIC PROGRAM available for the three hour re-certification? Hope so. Plz Advz Thnx JerryPlz let me rephrase. Will Illinois Carry have a CLIC power point presentation for the re-cert? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted May 2, 2018 at 02:52 AM Author Share Posted May 2, 2018 at 02:52 AM CLIC PROGRAM available for the three hour re-certification? Hope so. Plz Advz Thnx JerryPlz let me rephrase. Will Illinois Carry have a CLIC power point presentation for the re-cert? At this point, it looks like it will be the same. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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