Senate Amendment 1 to SB236

[Jeffrey]

 

 

Where can one find their exact definition of "assault weapon?" My understanding is that assault weapons are guns that are full auto which is already banned in the state, with SOT exceptions. If that is the case, this bill would be redundant. Shocking for the state I know.

That's the definition of the military and the ATF. They are using Bloomberg's definition and backing to shove this down our throats just like with the soda tax.

 

and the definition of NSSF (National Shooting Sports Foundation) our firearms industry experts.

 

https://www.nssf.org/msr/

 

Kinda reminds me of when we were debating our carry law concerning what is written vs. what is said during debate.

[Casey773]

The Chief sponsor of SB236 was changed to Julie Morrison. So they're up to something. Well.........we know what.

[yurimodin]

I've been a law abiding citizen all my life. Not even a speeding ticket. Why now at the age of 60 does my state wish to make me a felon?

yup....that's what communists do. They are reaching waaaaay beyond minor interpretations/semantics and going full jugular blatantly showing their disdain for the constitution they swore to uphold.

[mikew]

The Chief sponsor of SB236 was changed to Julie Morrison. So they're up to something. Well.........we know what.

That would be a familiar move when breathing life into a shell bill.

[357]

 

Where can one find their exact definition of "assault weapon?" My understanding is that assault weapons are guns that are full auto which is already banned in the state, with SOT exceptions. If that is the case, this bill would be redundant. Shocking for the state I know.

Text of SFA1 is now posted to ILGA. As expected:

Sec. 24-1.9. Possession, delivery, sale, and purchase of

4 assault weapons.

5 (a) Definitions. As used in this Section:

6 (1) "Antique firearm" has the meaning ascribed to it in

7 18 U.S.C. 921 (a)(16).

8 (2) "Assault weapon" means:

9 (A) a semiautomatic rifle that has the capacity to

10 accept a large capacity magazine detachable or

11 otherwise and one or more of the following:

12 (i) only a pistol grip without a stock

13 attached;

14 (ii) any feature capable of functioning as a

15 protruding grip that can be held by the non-trigger

16 hand;

17 (iii) a folding, telescoping, or thumbhole

18 stock;

19 (iv) a shroud attached to the barrel, or that

20 partially or completely encircles the barrel,

21 allowing the bearer to hold the firearm with the

22 non-trigger hand without being burned, but

23 excluding a slide that encloses the barrel; or

24 (v) a muzzle brake or muzzle compensator;

25 ( a semiautomatic pistol or any semi-automatic

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1 rifle that has a fixed magazine, that has the capacity

2 to accept more than 10 rounds of ammunition;

3 © a semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to

4 accept a detachable magazine and has one or more of the

5 following:

6 (i) any feature capable of functioning as a

7 protruding grip that can be held by the non-trigger

8 hand;

9 (ii) a folding, telescoping, or thumbhole

10 stock;

11 (iii) a shroud attached to the barrel, or that

12 partially or completely encircles the barrel,

13 allowing the bearer to hold the firearm with the

14 non-trigger hand without being burned, but

15 excluding a slide that encloses the barrel;

16 (iv) a muzzle brake or muzzle compensator; or

17 (v) the capacity to accept a detachable

18 magazine at some location outside of the pistol

19 grip;

20 (D) a semiautomatic shotgun that has one or more of

21 the following:

22 (i) only a pistol grip without a stock

23 attached;

24 (ii) any feature capable of functioning as a

25 protruding grip that can be held by the non-trigger

26 hand;

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1 (iii) a folding, telescoping, or thumbhole

2 stock;

3 (iv) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5

4 rounds; or

5 (v) an ability to accept a detachable

6 magazine;

7 (E) any shotgun with a revolving cylinder;

8 (F) a conversion kit, part or combination of parts,

9 from which an assault weapon can be assembled if those

10 parts are in the possession or under the control of the

11 same person;

12 (G) shall include, but not be limited to, the

13 assault weapons models identified as follows:

14 (i) the following rifles or copies or

15 duplicates of those rifles:

16 (I) AK, AKM, AKS, AK-47, AK-74, ARM,

17 MAK90, Misr, NHM 90, NHM 91, SA 85, SA 93,

18 VEPR;

19 (II) AR-10;

20 (III) AR-15, Bushmaster XM15, Armalite

21 Ml5, or Olympic Arms PCR;

22 (IV) AR70;

23 (V) Calico Liberty;

24 (VI) Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov

25 SVU;

26 (VII) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, or

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1 FNC;

2 (VIII) Hi-Point Carbine;

3 (IX) HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, or HK-PSG-1;

4 (X) Kel-Tec Sub Rifle;

5 (XI) Saiga;

6 (XII) SAR-8, SAR-4800;

7 (XIII) SKS with detachable magazine;

8 (XIV) SLG 95;

9 (XV) SLR 95 or 96;

10 (XVI) Steyr AUG;

11 (XVII) Sturm, Ruger Mini-14;

12 (XVIII) Tavor;

13 (XIX) Thompson 1927, Thompson Ml, or

14 Thompson 1927 Commando; or

15 (XX) Uzi, Galil and Uzi Sporter, Galil

16 Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle (Galatz).

17 (ii) the following pistols or copies or

18 duplicates of those pistols:

19 (I) Calico M-110;

20 (II) MAC-10, MAC-11, or MPA3;

21 (III) Olympic Arms OA;

22 (IV) TEC-9, TEC-DC9, TEC-22 Scorpion, or

23 AB-10; or

24 (V) Uzi.

25 (iii) The following shotguns or copies or

26 duplicates of those shotguns:

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1 (I) Armscor 30 BG;

2 (II) SPAS 12 or LAW 12;

3 (III) Striker 12; or

4 (IV) Streetsweeper.

5 "Assault weapon" does not include any firearm that has

6 been made permanently inoperable, or satisfies the

7 definition of antique firearm, or weapons designed for

8 Olympic target shooting events.

9 (3) "Assault weapon attachment" means any device

10 capable of being attached to a firearm that is specifically

11 designed for making or converting a firearm into any of the

12 firearms listed in paragraph (2) of this subsection (a).

13 (4) "Detachable magazine" means any ammunition feeding

14 device, the function of which is to deliver one or more

15 ammunition cartridges into the firing chamber, which can be

16 removed from the firearm without the use of any tool,

17 including a bullet or ammunition cartridge.

18 (5) "Locking mechanism" means secured by a device or

19 mechanism, other than the firearm safety, designed to

20 render a firearm temporarily inoperable; or a box or

21 container capable of containing the firearm and that can be

22 securely locked.

23 (6) "Muzzle brake" means a device attached to the

24 muzzle of a weapon that utilizes escaping gas to reduce

25 recoil.

26 (7) "Muzzle compensator" means a device attached to the

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1 muzzle of a weapon that utilizes escaping gas to control

2 muzzle movement.

Wow, so a pistol grip or a stock (every person is a different height and needs to be adjusted) or a barrel shroud (so people don't burn their hand) or muzzle attachment (so people are not blinded by the flash at night and reduces recoil) so any one of these which every firearm has makes a firearm an assault weapon?

 

How are people supposed to hold and shoot their guns? Basically the way a gun is held and shouldered makes a firearm an assault weapon. Very corrupt and disgusting. Do they have a clue of what they are proposing or just using what Bloomberg gave them?

 

Even parts and shotguns and pistols are assault weapons to them not just rifles. Just come out and say every firearm is an assault weapon and our plan is to ban them all. Over 10 rounds is standard capacity not high capacity. Who decides capacity too, Bloomberg? After 10 rounds he changed the law in New York state and made it 7 rounds.

[Hap]

It's important to avoid getting tangled up in technical questions about the feature lists contained in most AWB-type legislation. These lists are basically lists of features that we like, and those who draft such legislation know full well that these features have absolutely nothing to do with the dangerousness or lack thereof of any firearm. If we liked to decorate our mags with Pokemon Go stickers, then you can bet that Pokemon Go stickers would be on their AWB feature lists.

 

Oppose the bills. Oppose their advocates. Stay focused.

[Glock23]

The standard argument against bans on cosmetic features should be to bring up the argument posed by (I think) the governor of Massachusetts a year or two ago.

 

She challenged Remington (or some other gun maker) for creating loopholes in her AWB by making AR-15 style rifles that made it through her ban... she stated that removing cosmetic features from an assault rifle didn't make it any less lethal.

 

But that's the whole basis of their argument, that adding these features DO make them more lethal, hence why they're always detailed in an AWB.

[357]

The standard argument against bans on cosmetic features should be to bring up the argument posed by (I think) the governor of Massachusetts a year or two ago.

 

She challenged Remington (or some other gun maker) for creating loopholes in her AWB by making AR-15 style rifles that made it through her ban... she stated that removing cosmetic features from an assault rifle didn't make it any less lethal.

 

But that's the whole basis of their argument, that adding these features DO make them more lethal, hence why they're always detailed in an AWB.

 

They keep changing the definition to fit their agenda and ban guns. Before it was 3 of the features made it an assault weapon. Now is any one of the cosmetic features makes it an assault weapon.

[Jeffrey]

I have zero respect for each one of these "Reps" that want a ban on guns. They would earn some of my respect if they would stop bs'ing everyone and just admit they want all guns to be deemed illegal. Honesty gets much further in life.

[Upholder]

Honesty gets much further in life.

 

Ah, but this isn't life, this is politics.

[Tango7]

I have zero respect for each one of these "Reps" that want a ban on guns. They would earn some of my respect if they would stop bs'ing everyone and just admit they want all guns to be deemed illegal. Honesty gets much further in life.

Given that the state has been officially spanked into recognizing that the RKBA is a Constitutional Right I'd love to see them recalled for violation of their Oaths of Office.

 

But that has about as much chance as removing "subject to the police power" from our 22nd Amendment.

[JTHunter]

Wow, so a pistol grip or a stock (every person is a different height and needs to be adjusted) or a barrel shroud (so people don't burn their hand) or muzzle attachment (so people are not blinded by the flash at night and reduces recoil) so any one of these which every firearm has makes a firearm an assault weapon?

 

How are people supposed to hold and shoot their guns? Basically the way a gun is held and shouldered makes a firearm an assault weapon. Very corrupt and disgusting. Do they have a clue of what they are proposing or just using what Bloomberg gave them?

 

Even parts and shotguns and pistols are assault weapons to them not just rifles. Just come out and say every firearm is an assault weapon and our plan is to ban them all. Over 10 rounds is standard capacity not high capacity. Who decides capacity too, Bloomberg? After 10 rounds he changed the law in New York state and made it 7 rounds.

 

Typical. Give them an inch and they will take everything.