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#1 skinnyb82

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Posted 01 September 2017 - 04:33 PM

Love him, hate him, or something in between, Judge Posner will be retiring effective tomorrow, Saturday, September 2. It's my understanding that he intends on remaining on U of C faculty, not taking senior status but stepping aside completely. http://chicagolawbul...tirement-9-1-1751e8c63ef649eaca35646e3232171572.jpg Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk
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Posted 01 September 2017 - 05:00 PM

Wow, judicial changes, legislative changes, I don't remember so many changes coming at once like this. 

I'm not sure I'll recognize the landscape in these here parts!


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Posted 01 September 2017 - 05:09 PM

I hope Trump picks a great one for the seat.


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Posted 01 September 2017 - 05:15 PM

Hopefully a couple of SCOTUS Justices follow suit.

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Posted 01 September 2017 - 05:28 PM

^^^ That would be great..



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Posted 01 September 2017 - 08:35 PM

His opinion in Moore v Madigan will have a lasting impact:

 

To confine the right to be armed to the home is to divorce the Second Amendment from the right of self-defense described in Heller and McDonald
this case, like Heller and McDonald is just about self-defense.
 
The Supreme Court has decided that the amendment confers a right to bear arms for self-defense, which is as important outside the home as inside.
 
What does it mean to bear arms if there's no right to carry arms in a public place?
You don't bear arms in your house, you don't march around with a gun over your shoulder right?

 

 


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Posted 02 September 2017 - 06:03 AM

His opinion in Moore v Madigan will have a lasting impact
It's bittersweet. On one hand, he tossed his own personal beliefs to the side and interpreted Heller the way it was intended. On the other are his...not so great votes in cases such as Culp, Horsley, ACLU v. Alvarez, Skoien, etc. I still respect the man even when I don't agree with him. Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk
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Posted 02 September 2017 - 02:34 PM

His cat told him it was time.


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Posted 02 September 2017 - 03:09 PM

After reading his opinion and how simple he made his findings you really have to wonder how any lower judge could have ever gotten it wrong


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Posted 03 September 2017 - 06:01 PM

On one hand, he tossed his own personal beliefs to the side and interpreted Heller the way it was intended. On the other are his...not so great votes in cases such as Culp, Horsley, ACLU v. Alvarez, Skoien, etc.
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Posted 06 September 2017 - 06:31 AM

After reading his opinion and how simple he made his findings you really have to wonder how any lower judge could have ever gotten it wrong

I think it's also good to note that Posner HATES guns with a passion. That's why he isn't on the Supreme Court...he wasn't, and still isn't a reliable conservative vote so Reagan put him on CA7. If it were up to him, and thank God it isn't, the "militia" would not be the people but the NG or some other form of reservist branch of the military. It shouldn't be surprising that he sees it that way, given that he was raised by a far-left mother who was a communist or communist sympathizer. heck, he once gave his train set to the children of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg after they were executed for treason. He doesn't believe it's an individual right, but he recognized that he was bound by Heller. And he got into it with Scalia over his opinion in Heller. That's why I respect the man. Deeply, and I mean deeply held personal beliefs about guns tossed to the side.

I've also seen his holdings as a district court judge (sitting by designation) overturned by the Seventh Circuit. Even worse, the panel holding that the district judge (Posner) made an error and not one of the innocent variety. That's entertaining.

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Posted 06 September 2017 - 07:18 AM

He may not have liked guns but I think that Posner recognized apart from Heller that the Second Amendment protected the right to carry a gun because Posner's opinion on what it means to bear arms didn't come straight from Heller, he could have simply quoted Heller on that matter but instead he said:

 

The Second Amendment states in its entirety that “a well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed” (emphasis added). The right to “bear” as distinct from the right to “keep” arms is unlikely to refer to the home. To speak of “bearing” arms within one's home would at all times have been an awkward usage. A right to bear arms thus implies a right to carry a loaded gun outside the home.

And one doesn't have to be a historian to realize that a right to keep and bear arms for personal self-defense in the eighteenth century could not rationally have been limited to the home. Suppose one lived in what was then the wild west—the Ohio Valley for example (for until the Louisiana Purchase the Mississippi River was the western boundary of the United States), where there were hostile Indians. One would need from time to time to leave one's home to obtain supplies from the nearest trading post, and en route one would be as much (probably more) at risk if unarmed as one would be in one's home unarmed. 

 

 

 

In my opinion, this is Posner interpreting the Constitution (correctly) apart from Heller and McDonald.


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Posted 21 September 2017 - 05:21 PM

Take a look at this. Posner decided to publish a new book. Here's what someone over at CA3blog thinks about it. http://ca3blog.com/j...want-it-anyway/ Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk
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Posted 21 September 2017 - 05:46 PM

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Posted 21 September 2017 - 05:49 PM

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Posted 21 September 2017 - 08:56 PM

Wow, I was wondering if Posner had gone cuckoo when he said that studying the Constitution was a waste of time and maybe he did.
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Posted 25 September 2017 - 07:39 PM

On the bright side, we have Trump filling the lower court vacancies.
"The point of [so-called "assault weapon" bans]...is not to ban firearms that are dangerous, it's to ban firearms that gun owners want to own because the people making the laws don't like gun owners. If we want to buy non-semiauto AR-style rifles, they'll ban those too, and for the same reason."

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 06:21 AM

On the bright side, we have Trump filling the lower court vacancies.

Yes and no. Yes, because he's filling the vacancies in red states and purple states (Indiana, Wisconsin, two examples). No, because the Senators from blue states are withholding blue slips for his nominees. Since Posner's seat is technically in Illinois, whereas the vacant seat that Barrett is nominated to is in Indiana and the seat Brennan is nominated to is in Wisconsin for purposes of the judiciary (the seat occupied by Easterbrook was the last seat authorized by Congress), and we have two Senators who exemplify the Democratic Party logo, I fully expect them to obstruct any nomination to fill the seat vacated by Posner.

The "blue slip rule" is alive and well. Al Franken used it on a CA8 nominee David Stras. Sen Klobuchar threatened to use it as well. I'm sure everyone has seen the attack by Feinstein and the rest of the leftists on the Judiciary Committee on Professor Barrett's religious beliefs. "The dogma lies within you" based on a paper she wrote 20 years ago.

This sort of rule for circuit judgeships is asinine because the circuit's jurisdiction includes one blue state, Minnesota, and the rest are red states (the Dakotas, Nebraska, Arkansas, Iowa, and Missouri). So two Democrats can basically control who is seated on the Eighth Circuit, despite the fact that the circuit covers Minnesota (Franken and Klobuchar, Iowa (Grassley and Ernst), Nebraska (Sasse and Fischer), North Dakota (Heitkamp, who has little time left in the Senate, and Hoeven), South Dakota (Thune and Rounds), Arkansas (Cotton and Boozman), and Missouri (McCaskill heh enough said, Blunt). Out of those 14 Senators, only 4 are Democrat. They're obstructing, plain and simple.

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 08:32 AM

On the bright side, we have Trump filling the lower court vacancies.

Yes and no. Yes, because he's filling the vacancies in red states and purple states (Indiana, Wisconsin, two examples). No, because the Senators from blue states are withholding blue slips for his nominees. Since Posner's seat is technically in Illinois, whereas the vacant seat that Barrett is nominated to is in Indiana and the seat Brennan is nominated to is in Wisconsin for purposes of the judiciary (the seat occupied by Easterbrook was the last seat authorized by Congress), and we have two Senators who exemplify the Democratic Party logo, I fully expect them to obstruct any nomination to fill the seat vacated by Posner.

The "blue slip rule" is alive and well. Al Franken used it on a CA8 nominee David Stras. Sen Klobuchar threatened to use it as well. I'm sure everyone has seen the attack by Feinstein and the rest of the leftists on the Judiciary Committee on Professor Barrett's religious beliefs. "The dogma lies within you" based on a paper she wrote 20 years ago.

This sort of rule for circuit judgeships is asinine because the circuit's jurisdiction includes one blue state, Minnesota, and the rest are red states (the Dakotas, Nebraska, Arkansas, Iowa, and Missouri). So two Democrats can basically control who is seated on the Eighth Circuit, despite the fact that the circuit covers Minnesota (Franken and Klobuchar, Iowa (Grassley and Ernst), Nebraska (Sasse and Fischer), North Dakota (Heitkamp, who has little time left in the Senate, and Hoeven), South Dakota (Thune and Rounds), Arkansas (Cotton and Boozman), and Missouri (McCaskill heh enough said, Blunt). Out of those 14 Senators, only 4 are Democrat. They're obstructing, plain and simple.

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Actually the blue slips are a non-issue for him, and with Grassley ramming nominees through committee it makes things a lot easier than you describe.

From the article:

What’s particularly important is that as to Brennan for the 7th Circuit, Trump didn’t wait for a Wisconsin judicial commission to rule. Trump isn’t required to do so, anymore than he is required to wait for “blue slips” from Senators to move forward. Those and other non-binding traditions have been used by Democrats to slow down the process.

Wisconsin News 3 reports:

Sen. Tammy Baldwin says a bipartisan Wisconsin commission that signs off on federal nominees never approved a Milwaukee attorney that President Donald Trump has picked to fill a federal appellate court vacancy.

Trump announced Friday that he had chosen Michael Brennan to fill a vacancy on the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals. The slot has been open since 2010. The seat is designated for a judge from Wisconsin.

Potential federal appointees from Wisconsin typically get vetted by the bipartisan Wisconsin Federal Nominating Commission.

Baldwin’s office said the commission did not recommend Brennan as the nominee. Baldwin said in a statement that she’s troubled Trump has taken a partisan approach that disrespects Wisconsin’s process.

This is consistent with what we reported in June, that the Chuck Grassley was prepared to force nominees through the Judiciary Committee due to Democrat stalling tactics. But he has to move more quickly given Democrat determination to slow things down.


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Posted 27 September 2017 - 05:38 AM

Unless he's changed his reasoning for allowing a judicial nomination to proceed without a blue slip, he allowed Brennan and Prof. Barrett through because the seats are technically in Wisconsin and Indiana, respectively, and Wisconsin and Indiana are purple states for purposes of the US Senate. There's still two more empty seats on the court, both in Illinois. One is the seat vacated by Williams when she took senior status and the other is the one vacated by Posner. Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk
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