Fubar Posted March 26, 2013 at 01:00 AM Share Posted March 26, 2013 at 01:00 AM Gun Owners of AmericaSen. Reid Beefs up Base Bill toDestroy Gun Ownership "Unholy alliances" could become a concern We now know a lot more about what's going to happen with gun control legislation than we did a few days ago. First, the number of the bill we are fighting is S. 649. Harry Reid introduced it on Thursday and brought it directly onto the Senate calendar. This means the bill can now come up at any time — probably soon after the Easter recess is over. Second, the bill is a lot worse than even we anticipated. We expected it to contain the Veterans Gun Ban, which would mean that you would sell, gift, or raffle a gun in America at the risk of a 15-year prison sentence because of something you didn't know about the veteran/buyer. But, surprisingly to us, the Far Left has convinced Reid to include the original Schumer version of the Universal Registry Bill. This would ban private sales of firearms, unless purchasers first get the permission from the government. If Senators can pass this de facto registration bill, they will be well on the way to confiscation (see, for example, Governor Andrew Cuomo in New York, who has a gun owner registry and has called for gun confiscation). If this bill is passed, Senators will claim that they "broke the back" of gun owners in America. Third, there is still every evidence that Reid will move to proceed to the bill under "regular order," which means he will need 60 votes to advance to the "gun control buffet." GOA has been talking and making our case with a host of Senate Republicans, and we would hope that everyone in the Senate understands the importance of stopping the "motion to proceed" to Reid's gun control legislation. Fourth, as we predicted, anti-gun zealots have begun to use the "ObamaCare Paradigm" to threaten, bribe, and coerce senators into submission on the most far-reaching aspects of gun control, including Feinstein's proposal to ban shotguns, rifles and handguns that millions of Americans legally own. So if the "motion to proceed" to S. 649 is adopted with 60 votes, then Feinstein's ban could be passed in the Senate with only 50 votes (plus Biden). Click here for a more technical explanation as to how this would occur. Already, articles are being published to intimidate any Democratic Senator who votes against any gun control and threatening them with the prospect of facing an anti-gun primary challenger — just like we saw on ObamaCare. Fifth, there may be unholy alliances at work which could succeed in achieving a dangerous gun control compromise. One Capitol Hill newspaper is now reporting that "Sen. Joe Manchin and the National Rifle Association are quietly engaged in private talks on a proposal to broaden background checks on purchasers of firearms." We hope this is not true, however you should be aware of this report and use whatever contacts you have to prevent this from happening. Be assured, you can rely on Gun Owners of America to never engage in any compromises! ACTION: The strategy remains: We need to defeat this bill by filibustering and voting down the "motion to proceed" to S. 649. Please contact your senators and distribute this alert far and wide. "What country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms." (Thomas Jefferson to James Madison) ISRA, NRA, GOA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Wheezy Posted March 26, 2013 at 01:11 AM Share Posted March 26, 2013 at 01:11 AM My guess is "they" can threaten all they want BUT many of those Democtratic Senators are from 2nd Amendment gun loving Southern and Western states. Are they more concerned with facing a anti gun primary challenger or answering to a gun loving general electorate about why they voted for gun registration. In those cases the dems are really shooting themelves in the foot by pushing their Senators on this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM_50BMG Posted March 26, 2013 at 01:41 AM Share Posted March 26, 2013 at 01:41 AM Hmmm, anyone have any leads on an inexpensive fishing boat for a one way trip to the middle of a lake? I think there's a lot of posturing and intimidation but WE THE PEOPLE need to stand strong and stand together to bring this nonsense "commonsense crap" to an end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm.stites Posted March 26, 2013 at 02:03 AM Share Posted March 26, 2013 at 02:03 AM they need 51 votes to make it out of the senate to the house that it wont pass in. they need 60 votes to kill a republican filibuster in the senate.. REID would be absolutely stupid to use the sneaky tactics on it and try and sneak it onto a bill they are sending to the house because it will kill the entire bill. REID may act stupid but if you sit down and think about it hes letting feinstein and schumer kill the entire thing while he can still hold his head up and say he told everyone it wouldnt pass or make it into the house...they already know they dont have the republican support on schumers background checks in the senate and the house which will kill this off in the house... the senate votes really mean jack.. its how the votes go when the house votes on it but i dont see the antis getting 218 votes in the house were only 200 dems are plus not all of them are against the second amendment. even if they go by party lines for the vote it will die in the house 200 - 232 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm.stites Posted March 26, 2013 at 02:06 AM Share Posted March 26, 2013 at 02:06 AM And as far as the background check talks between the nra and manchin,LaPierre has stated publicly that they are working on a bill that fixes the current background check system and adds records to it that should of been added to it 20 years ago.(aka mental health records) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazzinbird Posted March 26, 2013 at 02:27 AM Share Posted March 26, 2013 at 02:27 AM Well I hope this dies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fubar Posted March 26, 2013 at 02:39 AM Author Share Posted March 26, 2013 at 02:39 AM You guys are probably right but all this shenanigans and sooner or later something will get by. Guess just paranoid being a victim of Chicago politics. "What country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms." (Thomas Jefferson to James Madison) ISRA, NRA, GOA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt-45 Posted March 26, 2013 at 03:07 AM Share Posted March 26, 2013 at 03:07 AM i just can't wait tell we can vote these people out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackForward Posted March 26, 2013 at 03:09 AM Share Posted March 26, 2013 at 03:09 AM they need 51 votes to make it out of the senate to the house that it wont pass in. they need 60 votes to kill a republican filibuster in the senate.. REID would be absolutely stupid to use the sneaky tactics on it and try and sneak it onto a bill they are sending to the house because it will kill the entire bill. REID may act stupid but if you sit down and think about it hes letting feinstein and schumer kill the entire thing while he can still hold his head up and say he told everyone it wouldnt pass or make it into the house...they already know they dont have the republican support on schumers background checks in the senate and the house which will kill this off in the house... the senate votes really mean jack.. its how the votes go when the house votes on it but i dont see the antis getting 218 votes in the house were only 200 dems are plus not all of them are against the second amendment. even if they go by party lines for the vote it will die in the house 200 - 232 I agree, GOA is just spreading propaganda and using scare tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fubar Posted March 26, 2013 at 03:10 AM Author Share Posted March 26, 2013 at 03:10 AM i just can't wait tell we can vote these people out. I agree, I hope there's a big push for all 2A backers come out during election time and send a clear message. That's the only way to stop this BS. "What country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms." (Thomas Jefferson to James Madison) ISRA, NRA, GOA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm.stites Posted March 26, 2013 at 03:14 AM Share Posted March 26, 2013 at 03:14 AM You guys are probably right but all this shenanigans and sooner or later something will get by. Guess just paranoid being a victim of Chicago politics. "What country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms." (Thomas Jefferson to James Madison) ISRA, NRA, GOA. thats because we are more likely to get screwed by Madigan then we are by the house of representatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm.stites Posted March 26, 2013 at 03:28 AM Share Posted March 26, 2013 at 03:28 AM Looks like Reid better be kissing some butts for 60 votes to bust the filibuster http://www.politico.com/story/2013/03/rand-paul-and-ted-cruz-threaten-filibuster-on-guns-89299.html#ixzz2Obd0zYC6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazzinbird Posted March 26, 2013 at 03:45 AM Share Posted March 26, 2013 at 03:45 AM Lets hope for a filibuster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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