hgmeyer Posted September 18, 2017 at 02:23 AM Share Posted September 18, 2017 at 02:23 AM For Whitetail.....from these choices. 243. 25i7 Roberts. 260. 7mm 08 G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkroenlein Posted September 18, 2017 at 02:37 AM Share Posted September 18, 2017 at 02:37 AM All will work with proper bullets. I'd choose the 260 with a modern bonded spitzer, like Nosler Accubond. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45Badger Posted September 18, 2017 at 02:59 AM Share Posted September 18, 2017 at 02:59 AM If you hand load or don't care about ammo availability/cost I love the 7mm-08. I shot half a dozen deer with a .243 when I lived in PA. Both cartridges work just fine in whitetails. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hgmeyer Posted September 18, 2017 at 03:30 AM Author Share Posted September 18, 2017 at 03:30 AM Currently load. 257 R 117 grain Accubonds. Rifle is a sporterized 93 Mouser put together in 1970 or so. Looking for something lighter. I like the performance of the Roberts.. But I am inclined toward the 260 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydawg13 Posted September 18, 2017 at 11:28 AM Share Posted September 18, 2017 at 11:28 AM Why not look at the 6.5 Creedmoor if your looking for better performance as far as a Hunting rifle For Me I'll stick with a 30/06 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkroenlein Posted September 18, 2017 at 12:19 PM Share Posted September 18, 2017 at 12:19 PM Currently load. 257 R 117 grain Accubonds. Rifle is a sporterized 93 Mouser put together in 1970 or so. Looking for something lighter. I like the performance of the Roberts.. But I am inclined toward the 260A very good friend of mine has the Savage Lightweight Hunter in .260. It shoots tiny little cloverleaf groups, and is hands down his favorite whitetail rig with a 3x-9x Leupold ultralight scope. http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/11LH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingcreek Posted September 18, 2017 at 02:23 PM Share Posted September 18, 2017 at 02:23 PM any of those will work just fine within reasonable distances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonap Posted September 18, 2017 at 05:01 PM Share Posted September 18, 2017 at 05:01 PM Don't know if you're talking about hunting in Illinois, but if you are: FromIllinoisDigest of Hunting andTrappingREGULATIONS 2017–2018 https://www.dnr.illinois.gov/hunting/Pages/HuntingTrappingDigests.aspx Sidearms and Rifle RegulationsIt is unlawful to:• have in possession any other firearm whenhunting deer with a shotgun, handgun ormuzzleloader. However, more than onefirearm may be possessed by a firearmdeer hunter provided it is a lawful gun forthat particular season. Possess any rifle in the field during firearmdeer season (see page 2 for season dates)except muzzleloading rifles used by deerhunters only. NOTE: The lawful possessionof rifles to take furbearing mammals andgame mammals other than deer shall not beprohibited during the youth deer hunting season,muzzleloading rifle-only deer seasonand CWD and late-winter antlerless onlydeer season (see page 2 for season dates). Legal Hunting Equipment• Shotguns, loaded with slugs only, of notlarger than 10 nor smaller than 20 gauge,not capable of firing more than threeconsecutive slugs; or• Single or double barreled muzzleloadingrifles of at least .45 caliber shooting asingle projectile through a barrel of at least16 inches in length; or• Centerfire revolvers or centerfire single-shothandguns of .30 caliber or larger with aminimum barrel length of 4 inches.• Archery equipment use is legal on privateland ONLY during Firearm Deer Season,provided the hunter has a valid countyfirearm deer permit. Archery hunting is notallowed using an Archery Deer Permit duringthe Firearm Deer Season in countiesopen to firearm deer hunting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevepk Posted September 18, 2017 at 08:31 PM Share Posted September 18, 2017 at 08:31 PM Yeah, not in this state! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hgmeyer Posted September 18, 2017 at 08:48 PM Author Share Posted September 18, 2017 at 08:48 PM No. Not Illinois. Kentucky. .Missouri and Wisconsin. I know they all work. My 257R has never failed. But I also know that in 40÷ years it is possible that other choices may be better. The 257R is a long action cartridge so I could save weight going to others. I am sure that reach out and touch me distances the 7/08 might be better. Just input from others to see if I can do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamma Posted September 18, 2017 at 08:49 PM Share Posted September 18, 2017 at 08:49 PM What part of the country, and the size of the deer in that part of the country as well as the typical engagement ranges would be helpful to making a judgement on suitable cartridges. A Florida deer that's not much bigger than a dog is a different animal than a Shawnee Illinois deer that's nearly as big as an Elk. I'm not a fan of the 243 for any reasonable size deer. Either the 260 (which is effectively a 6.5mm-08) or 7mm-08 would be pretty good options for all but the largest deer, and in a shorter action length than the 257. If you wanted to really modernize, you could go with a short action rifle in 6.8SPC, or 6.5 Grendel, either of which would be fine midrange deer cartridges. The 6.8 in particular has very good terminal ballistics and is a favorite of wild hog hunters. If the 6.8SPC had been named "270 Short Magnum" or something like that it would have had a lot more success in the hunting world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydawg13 Posted September 18, 2017 at 10:49 PM Share Posted September 18, 2017 at 10:49 PM No. Not Illinois. Kentucky. .Missouri and Wisconsin. I know they all work. My 257R has never failed. But I also know that in 40÷ years it is possible that other choices may be better. The 257R is a long action cartridge so I could save weight going to others. I am sure that reach out and touch me distances the 7/08 might be better. Just input from others to see if I can do better. If it's not broke don't fix it I would stick with Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45Badger Posted September 19, 2017 at 02:31 AM Share Posted September 19, 2017 at 02:31 AM I used .270, 30-06, and .243 before I settled on .308 Winchester. All killed deer just fine. Heart/lung area in a deer is an 8-10" target. Any of these caliber (or the ones you asked about) will cleanly take a deer of any size if you can hit an 8" target at your intended range. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quackersmacker Posted September 19, 2017 at 08:33 PM Share Posted September 19, 2017 at 08:33 PM Don't know if you're talking about hunting in Illinois, but if you are: FromIllinoisDigest of Hunting andTrappingREGULATIONS 2017–2018 https://www.dnr.illinois.gov/hunting/Pages/HuntingTrappingDigests.aspx Sidearms and Rifle RegulationsIt is unlawful to:• have in possession any other firearm whenhunting deer with a shotgun, handgun ormuzzleloader. However, more than onefirearm may be possessed by a firearmdeer hunter provided it is a lawful gun forthat particular season. Possess any rifle in the field during firearmdeer season (see page 2 for season dates)except muzzleloading rifles used by deerhunters only. NOTE: The lawful possessionof rifles to take furbearing mammals andgame mammals other than deer shall not beprohibited during the youth deer hunting season,muzzleloading rifle-only deer seasonand CWD and late-winter antlerless onlydeer season (see page 2 for season dates). Legal Hunting Equipment• Shotguns, loaded with slugs only, of notlarger than 10 nor smaller than 20 gauge,not capable of firing more than threeconsecutive slugs; or• Single or double barreled muzzleloadingrifles of at least .45 caliber shooting asingle projectile through a barrel of at least16 inches in length; or• Centerfire revolvers or centerfire single-shothandguns of .30 caliber or larger with aminimum barrel length of 4 inches.• Archery equipment use is legal on privateland ONLY during Firearm Deer Season,provided the hunter has a valid countyfirearm deer permit. Archery hunting is notallowed using an Archery Deer Permit duringthe Firearm Deer Season in countiesopen to firearm deer hunting.Note the ammo restrictions from the same publication, especially the 500 ft lb minimum for revolvers and no FMJ allowed: Legal Ammunition• For shotguns and muzzleloading firearms,the minimum size of the projectile shall be.44 caliber. A wad or sleeve is not considereda projectile or a part of the projectile.• For handguns, a bottleneck centerfirecartridge of .30 caliber or larger witha case length not exceeding 1.4 inches,or a straight-walled centerfire cartridgeof .30 caliber or larger, both of whichmust be available as a factory load withthe published ballistic tables of themanufacturer showing a capability of atleast 500 foot pounds of energy at themuzzle. There is no case length limit forstraight-walled cartridges.• Non-expanding, military-style full metaljacket bullets cannot be used to harvestwhite-tailed deer; only soft point orexpanding bullets (including copper/copper-alloy rounds designed for hunting)are legal ammunition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hgmeyer Posted September 20, 2017 at 04:17 PM Author Share Posted September 20, 2017 at 04:17 PM Alright, IF I were to change, it would be the synthetic stock stainless version. And, it is.between 260, 7 08 and 308. The 7 08 is in the lead in my mind. Any useful, relevant information would be appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted September 20, 2017 at 10:29 PM Share Posted September 20, 2017 at 10:29 PM I have 243 and 7'08. Same base cartridge. 243 is flatter in general 'cuz it's a lighter round, but not enough to matter at most deer hunting ranges. Factory '08 loads are generally only 140g bullets, which is silly. I reload the '08 from 110 gr hp to 170 gr spitzers. So if you believe that downrange energy counts, the '08 is able to use bigger bullets at reasonable velocities. I like 120 g spitzers for deer...but a 243 with 100g is going to have faster velocity... I really like the looks of the 260 / 6.5 ballistics, but haven't shot one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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