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#1 Hipshot Percussion

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Posted 25 October 2018 - 07:07 AM

Full story at the link  -  https://amp.washingt...lifornias-conc/

 

Resident from the Netherlands challenges California's concealed-carry gun law after permit denial
 
By David Sherfinski - The Washington Times - Tuesday, October 23, 2018

Gun-rights groups are suing California’s Riverside County and its sheriff after a legal U.S. resident from the Netherlands who has lived in the country for 35 years says he was denied a concealed-carry permit on the grounds that he isn’t a U.S. citizen.

The case is the latest challenge to touch on the intersection of guns and immigration, two of the thorniest political issues.

Arie Van Nieuwenhuyzen, a lawful permanent resident of the U.S. who has lived in the country since 1983 but retains citizenship in the Netherlands, says the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department told him earlier this month that only U.S. citizens can be granted a concealed-weapon permit, and discouraged him from going through the process to get one.

Mr. Van Nieuwenhuyzen says the sheriff’s department is violating his Second Amendment right to bear arms and his 14th Amendment right to equal protection under the law, according to the lawsuit filed last week in federal court.

Mr. Van Nieuwenhuyzen has a fundamental human right to carry his gun outside his home for self-defense, but Sheriff [Stan] Sniff’s policies and practices prevent him from doing so,” said George M. Lee, the lead attorney on the case.

The sheriff’s department said Tuesday it would be inappropriate to comment publicly on pending litigation.

Courts have rejected similar refusals in other states, finding that there’s no security reason to deny legal permanent residents the same gun rights that citizens have.

In the last decade, gun-rights advocates — with support from the American Civil Liberties Union in some cases — have won injunctions against similar laws in a handful of states, including North Carolina, New Mexico and Nebraska.

 

 


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Posted 25 October 2018 - 09:35 AM

How about US citizens from other states? Those are apparently fair game for discrimination in half of the country.


Illinois' FCCA is a prime example of the maxim that sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.

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Posted 25 October 2018 - 11:29 AM

How about US citizens from other states? Those are apparently fair game for discrimination in half of the country.


In those cases, it's about residency, not citizenship. I'm not advocating, only explaining.
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Posted 25 October 2018 - 01:13 PM

 

How about US citizens from other states? Those are apparently fair game for discrimination in half of the country.


In those cases, it's about residency, not citizenship. I'm not advocating, only explaining.

 

 

The 14th is supposed to moot state residency as another state's reason to deny rights to a citizen of the US.  It will be interesting to see how carefully and narrowly worded the opinions are in regards to the 14th if this makes it's way up the court ladder.


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Posted 25 October 2018 - 08:10 PM

CalGuns.nuts and the NRA are once again at each other's throat.  What a wonderful gift to find waiting for me when I returned home.



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Posted 25 October 2018 - 08:11 PM

What's this?  Leftist government of Californication is anti-immigrant?

That NEVAH happens.


The Second Amendment of the Constitution protects the rest.




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