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#1 Sweeper13

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 10:10 PM

Here we go,,,,2 links, not sure whats working. Lock if this is someplace else or started already...Thanks

 

The judges...

 

Schwarz...Obama

Greenaway Jr....Obama

Bibas...Trump ( of course dissent.)

 

https://www.washingt...rseys-law-limi/

 

 

https://www.nbcnews....ng-high-n944636

 

 

The ruling: Go to page 18 on Bibas 4 paragraph simple dissent.  In the pages before is where he rips NJ and majority on scutinty and how they treat the Heller & McDonald decisions.

 

https://www2.ca3.usc...rch/183170p.pdf

 

 

The original case Oct1 2018. Turning down a bid for injunctive relief, U.S. District Judge Peter Sheridan (GW Bush) concluded that the new law is “reasonably tailored” to curtail mass shootings and “passes constitutional muster.”

 

https://www.courthou...t-court-hurdle/


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Posted 05 December 2018 - 10:30 PM

guess where they will try this, and others.



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Posted 05 December 2018 - 10:34 PM

Will the SCOTUS ever hear one of these cases?
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Posted 05 December 2018 - 11:01 PM

eventually, but could be a lot of damage done in the mean time.



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Posted 05 December 2018 - 11:38 PM

Will the SCOTUS ever hear one of these cases?

 

My hope is sooner than later, the fact that these liberal-leaning courts continue to flat out ignore Heller's intent needs to be stopped.  This is a limited scope case so it might actually be something the SCOTUS might tackle, but I would prefer a broader scope case.

 

The fact that they always exempt police and military essentially proves they know full well it diminishes the ability to exercise proper levels of self-defense that alone should be enough to find it infringing on the 2nd.


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Posted 06 December 2018 - 11:44 AM

 

The fact that they always exempt police and military essentially proves they know full well it diminishes the ability to exercise proper levels of self-defense that alone should be enough to find it infringing on the 2nd.

 

 

I think this is a salient point. Police, in the performance of their duties, are exempt from certain laws...such as drug possession. But, they're not allowed to possess drugs in their personal lives. Why should they be allowed to own personal weapons that no one else can own? That makes zero sense.

 

We really could use some wins in court right now considering the flurry of new felons JB and Madigan plan to create out of a million or so law abiding citizens.



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Posted 11 December 2018 - 03:31 PM

The 10 round low capacity limit is unconstitutional and was imposed on people by Bloomberg and his paid politiscians and needs to be struck down like the soda tax. Why doesn't he impose a limit on his bodyguards? If it was adequate for self defense, police would be carrying 10 round low capacity magazines but they carry 46 rounds or as much as possible and have shot 84 rounds and only hit the target once.

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Posted 11 December 2018 - 08:36 PM

The 10 round low capacity limit is unconstitutional and was imposed on people by Bloomberg and his paid politiscians and needs to be struck down like the soda tax. Why doesn't he impose a limit on his bodyguards? If it was adequate for self defense, police would be carrying 10 round low capacity magazines but they carry 46 rounds or as much as possible and have shot 84 rounds and only hit the target once.

https://www.huffingt...4b093be51bbb978

 

If the limit for everyone was 10 rounds, there wouldn't be a limit.


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Posted 11 December 2018 - 09:35 PM

The 10 round low capacity limit is unconstitutional and was imposed on people by Bloomberg and his paid politiscians and needs to be struck down like the soda tax. Why doesn't he impose a limit on his bodyguards? If it was adequate for self defense, police would be carrying 10 round low capacity magazines but they carry 46 rounds or as much as possible and have shot 84 rounds and only hit the target once.https://www.huffingt...4b093be51bbb978

 
If the limit for everyone was 10 rounds, there wouldn't be a limit.

So you're saying there should be a 10 round limit for everyone?
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Posted 12 December 2018 - 05:16 AM

 

 

The 10 round low capacity limit is unconstitutional and was imposed on people by Bloomberg and his paid politiscians and needs to be struck down like the soda tax. Why doesn't he impose a limit on his bodyguards? If it was adequate for self defense, police would be carrying 10 round low capacity magazines but they carry 46 rounds or as much as possible and have shot 84 rounds and only hit the target once.https://www.huffingt...4b093be51bbb978

 
If the limit for everyone was 10 rounds, there wouldn't be a limit.

So you're saying there should be a 10 round limit for everyone?

 

 

No.

If there is any magazine restriction for us, it should extend to cops, security and military... no exemptions for anyone.

If it's good for one, it's good for all.

 

The "exempt" classes would scream.


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Posted 12 December 2018 - 06:01 AM

No.
If there is any magazine restriction for us, it should extend to cops, security and military... no exemptions for anyone.
If it's good for one, it's good for all.
 
The "exempt" classes would scream.


Maybe,since the exempt classes possess magazines as a condition of employment their employer,  the government, should restrict only their magazine capacity.  Their rights, after all, are not involved while engaged in their job duties and they can do this without legislation.

 

Then they can properly leave our rights untouched, as they should,


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Posted 12 December 2018 - 06:11 AM

 

No.
If there is any magazine restriction for us, it should extend to cops, security and military... no exemptions for anyone.
If it's good for one, it's good for all.
 
The "exempt" classes would scream.


Maybe,since the exempt classes possess magazines as a condition of employment their employer,  the government, should restrict only their magazine capacity.  Their rights, after all, are not involved while engaged in their job duties and they can do this without legislation.

 

Then they can properly leave our rights untouched, as they should,

 

 

I'd go with that!


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Posted 13 December 2018 - 09:31 AM

 

No.
If there is any magazine restriction for us, it should extend to cops, security and military... no exemptions for anyone.
If it's good for one, it's good for all.
 
The "exempt" classes would scream.


Maybe,since the exempt classes possess magazines as a condition of employment their employer,  the government, should restrict only their magazine capacity.  Their rights, after all, are not involved while engaged in their job duties and they can do this without legislation.

 

Then they can properly leave our rights untouched, as they should,

 

 

This x10,000



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Posted 13 December 2018 - 10:56 AM

 

 

The 10 round low capacity limit is unconstitutional and was imposed on people by Bloomberg and his paid politiscians and needs to be struck down like the soda tax. Why doesn't he impose a limit on his bodyguards? If it was adequate for self defense, police would be carrying 10 round low capacity magazines but they carry 46 rounds or as much as possible and have shot 84 rounds and only hit the target once.https://www.huffingt...4b093be51bbb978

 
If the limit for everyone was 10 rounds, there wouldn't be a limit.

So you're saying there should be a 10 round limit for everyone?

 

No, another way of putting it is without exemptions, Obamacare and social security would not exist.



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Posted 13 December 2018 - 11:17 AM

[quote name="Sal Bandini" post="1185676" timestamp="1544720185"][quote name="357" post="1185514" timestamp="1544585759"]
[quote name="soundguy" post="1185511" timestamp="1544582170"]
[quote name="357" post="1185486" timestamp="1544563870"]
The 10 round low capacity limit is unconstitutional and was imposed on people by Bloomberg and his paid politiscians and needs to be struck down like the soda tax. Why doesn't he impose a limit on his bodyguards? If it was adequate for self defense, police would be carrying 10 round low capacity magazines but they carry 46 rounds or as much as possible and have shot 84 rounds and only hit the target once.https://www.huffingt...4b093be51bbb978
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If the limit for everyone was 10 rounds, there wouldn't be a limit.[/quote]

So you're saying there should be a 10 round limit for everyone?
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No, another way of putting it is without exemptions, Obamacare and social security would not exist.[/quote]

Obamacare and social security are not Constitutional rights.
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#16 Sal Bandini

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Posted 13 December 2018 - 11:17 AM

^^^ I never said they were. I was explaining soundguy's statement with other examples.






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