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#1 Bushy223

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 06:43 AM

https://www.myjourna...on-13373888.php

This link is to information about a League of Women Voters hosted event coming up in Jacksonville next Wednesday. Jacksonville has two very liberal small colleges and the information described in the program/agenda is both controversial and likely to be nonsense. Weve certainly heard it before. The focus is on the proposed Dealer Registration and automatic weapons. Some informed, articulate gun owners may serve to dilute the kool aid.

I intend to be there. Its at 7 pm in the council chambers on the second floor of the Municipal Building in the 200 block of West Douglas. This is the same building that houses the police and fire departments

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 05:37 PM

https://www.myjourna...on-13373888.php

This link is to information about a League of Women Voters hosted event coming up in Jacksonville next Wednesday. Jacksonville has two very liberal small colleges and the information described in the program/agenda is both controversial and likely to be nonsense. Weve certainly heard it before. The focus is on the proposed Dealer Registration and automatic weapons. Some informed, articulate gun owners may serve to dilute the kool aid.

I intend to be there. Its at 7 pm in the council chambers on the second floor of the Municipal Building in the 200 block of West Douglas. This is the same building that houses the police and fire departments

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Is this only going to a presentation. or will there be a discussion? Would having pro gun women from Sangamon County help?


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Posted 09 November 2018 - 05:57 PM

I don’t know anything beyond the description in the paper. I will update if I find out any more. This is likely to be a tough year given the election results.

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 08:17 PM

Let me know--I could knock off early from work (it'd take me about 3 hours to get there), if it'd be helpful.



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Posted 10 November 2018 - 04:19 AM

I'm guessing they won't be discussing cracking down on violent repeat offenders or ending the the revolving door of justice in Crook County. 



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Posted 10 November 2018 - 06:51 PM

My wife knows a person who is on the LoWV. She will try to find out what is the underlying plan.

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Posted 10 November 2018 - 07:18 PM

My wife knows a person who is on the LoWV. She will try to find out what is the underlying plan.
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Do they have a website or FB page discussing the event?
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Posted 10 November 2018 - 09:18 PM

The only info I have is at the link in my original post, sorry.

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Posted 11 November 2018 - 07:25 AM

https://m.facebook.c...wvmorgancounty/

Facebook. No comments or suggestions of an alternative opinion. Given the stated presenters, I doubt alternatives will be welcome. No discussion on the site.

Edited by Bushy223, 11 November 2018 - 07:35 AM.

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Posted 11 November 2018 - 07:40 AM

https://www.lwv.org/...v-morgan-county

This is the local groups info on the state site.

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Posted 11 November 2018 - 08:13 AM

Figures .. well, in that case, I'm not going to burn extra PTO just to show up wearing my TWAW hat.



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Posted 11 November 2018 - 06:49 PM

Figures .. well, in that case, I'm not going to burn extra PTO just to show up wearing my TWAW hat.

 

I wish The Well Armed Women would attend and be a presence in the room. Let them see informed, intelligent women with a difference of opinion.  Take flyers promoting TWAW chapters to hand out!!  Is there a chapter in this area?


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Posted 11 November 2018 - 07:01 PM

 

Figures .. well, in that case, I'm not going to burn extra PTO just to show up wearing my TWAW hat.

 

I wish The Well Armed Women would attend and be a presence in the room. Let them see informed, intelligent women with a difference of opinion.  Take flyers promoting TWAW chapters to hand out!!  Is there a chapter in this area?

 

The closest chapter is Rochester, Illinois about 40 miles from Jacksonville. However, many of their members are from Springfield which is about 1/2 hour away. I emailed Sidden's where they meet and the person listed as contact for the WAW chapter. I have not gotten an email response from them. While my wife does not belong to WAW she is an avid trap shooter and has a concealed carry permit. If more than one woman was going, I'm sure I could get her to go.


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Posted 11 November 2018 - 07:02 PM

 

Figures .. well, in that case, I'm not going to burn extra PTO just to show up wearing my TWAW hat.

 

I wish The Well Armed Women would attend and be a presence in the room. Let them see informed, intelligent women with a difference of opinion.  Take flyers promoting TWAW chapters to hand out!!  Is there a chapter in this area?

 

 

Looks like there is a chapter in Marion Molly.  Maybe Honeybee can give more information.



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Posted 11 November 2018 - 07:18 PM

 

 

Figures .. well, in that case, I'm not going to burn extra PTO just to show up wearing my TWAW hat.

 

I wish The Well Armed Women would attend and be a presence in the room. Let them see informed, intelligent women with a difference of opinion.  Take flyers promoting TWAW chapters to hand out!!  Is there a chapter in this area?

 

The closest chapter is Rochester, Illinois about 40 miles from Jacksonville. However, many of their members are from Springfield which is about 1/2 hour away. I emailed Sidden's where they meet and the person listed as contact for the WAW chapter. I have not gotten an email response from them. While my wife does not belong to WAW she is an avid trap shooter and has a concealed carry permit. If more than one woman was going, I'm sure I could get her to go.

 

 

UPDATE: My wife is dressing up in business attire and going to be there. She still hopes that other women will join her.


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Posted 12 November 2018 - 06:54 AM

Hopefully the meeting gets swamped with local gun owners (and hopefully many of them are women). The time to sit it out on the sidelines is over. These people are in complete control now and they are coming after us. There are a lot more of us than there are them downstate. Let's stop this infection from spreading!

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Posted 12 November 2018 - 12:58 PM

The focus is on the proposed Dealer Registration and automatic weapons.

Is this a typo or did they really say automatic?


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Posted 12 November 2018 - 01:17 PM

 

The focus is on the proposed Dealer Registration and automatic weapons.

Is this a typo or did they really say automatic?

 

They really did say automatic.  Third paragraph of the article.  "Automatic assault weapons".  I would just assume it was a misspoken comment from the quoted speaker.  She undoubtedly did mean semiautomatic.


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Posted 12 November 2018 - 01:25 PM

The focus is on the proposed Dealer Registration and automatic weapons.

Is this a typo or did they really say automatic?
They really did say automatic.  Third paragraph of the article.  "Automatic assault weapons".  I would just assume it was a misspoken comment from the quoted speaker.  She undoubtedly did mean semiautomatic.
Many of the antis dont understand the difference and dont care to be educated. Im sure many would like to remove the semis also.
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Posted 12 November 2018 - 08:01 PM

They really did say automatic.  Third paragraph of the article.  "Automatic assault weapons".  I would just assume it was a misspoken comment from the quoted speaker.  She undoubtedly did mean semiautomatic.


Semiautomatic contains the dreaded word automatic, so it's just as bad. Non-automatic also contains the hated word, so that'll be next.
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Posted 12 November 2018 - 08:34 PM

 

Figures .. well, in that case, I'm not going to burn extra PTO just to show up wearing my TWAW hat.

 

I wish The Well Armed Women would attend and be a presence in the room. Let them see informed, intelligent women with a difference of opinion.  Take flyers promoting TWAW chapters to hand out!!  Is there a chapter in this area?

 

 

 

We simply must begin to educate the uneducated! At one time, (and not all that long ago) everyone that rode a Harley was considered a danger to society and promptly escorted out of town by the local cop. I know this to be FACT because I was one of those individuals often told to 'just keep on moving' years ago. And now look how things have changed. 

 

We have to begin educating the uneducated non gunowner minions that it's repeat offending gang members and not local gun owners that are the problem. And it's the few unstable minded souls that are causing the carnage and not concealed carry folks. Let's inform them that semi-autos have been around for a hundred years - why is it only NOW that we see mass shootings?! AND automatic weapons have been heavily regulated since the National Firearms Act of 1934!

 

And who better to educate a room full of woman voters than WELL ARMED WOMEN shooters?! 



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Posted 13 November 2018 - 06:57 AM

They absolutely meant semiautomatic, the words are synonymous to them! They want them all, 22’s included, if not today, tomorrow. When I was working, back in the late 80’s, we had a request from the gov’s office for info on all AR 15s used in crime. There were none, so the request was modified for info on all long guns used in the commission of a crime. We had three or four, all 12 ga shotguns and .22 rifles. They went with it. This was when IL was moving to prohibit ownership of (genuine NFA) weapons.

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Posted 13 November 2018 - 10:40 AM

Figures .. well, in that case, I'm not going to burn extra PTO just to show up wearing my TWAW hat.

 
I wish The Well Armed Women would attend and be a presence in the room. Let them see informed, intelligent women with a difference of opinion.  Take flyers promoting TWAW chapters to hand out!!  Is there a chapter in this area?
 
 
We simply must begin to educate the uneducated! At one time, (and not all that long ago) everyone that rode a Harley was considered a danger to society and promptly escorted out of town by the local cop. I know this to be FACT because I was one of those individuals often told to 'just keep on moving' years ago. And now look how things have changed. 
 
We have to begin educating the uneducated non gunowner minions that it's repeat offending gang members and not local gun owners that are the problem. And it's the few unstable minded souls that are causing the carnage and not concealed carry folks. Let's inform them that semi-autos have been around for a hundred years - why is it only NOW that we see mass shootings?! AND automatic weapons have been heavily regulated since the National Firearms Act of 1934!
 
And who better to educate a room full of woman voters than WELL ARMED WOMEN shooters?!

Yep, especially the last part of your post. It's pretty obvious nobody is interested in what white, middle aged men with beer guts (I resemble that remark, lol) think. A crowd of well informed women though could move mountains.

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Posted 13 November 2018 - 04:50 PM

>>Yep, especially the last part of your post. It's pretty obvious nobody is interested in what white, middle aged men with beer guts (I resemble that remark, lol) think. A crowd of well informed women though could move mountains.<<

 

Hey! I don't have a beer gut, but I am also far past middle age. I'll let my wife do the talking and the few other women that appear to be coming.


 


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Posted 13 November 2018 - 05:59 PM

No dice on my time off, but it may be better for more local folk to be present.  Was there any luck in getting the SangChris chapter involved?  (I am in the Marion chapter -- that's the one closest to me, and I travel 40ish miles to get there).



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Posted 13 November 2018 - 08:14 PM

I heard back from one member who cannot attend because she was already obligated elsewhere. However, she did forward the message to the leaders of the chapter.
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Posted 13 November 2018 - 08:20 PM

Delete post. Misread

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Posted Yesterday, 10:55 PM

O.K. My wife and I just came from this event. There were about 35-40 people there. The local LOWV had brought in three speakers - all from the Chicago area. Two were volunteers who were maybe getting expenses, and the other one was Mark Walsh, a paid employee of Illinois Coalition for Gun Violence Prevention. They tried to totally control the meeting insisting on written questions only and delivering a Power Point that looked like something a low level white collar employee would have done in the 1980s. Of course they used faulty statistics and sophist arguments to try to make their points. When they took questions they didn't like they gave answers that didn't have a thing to do with the questions. They did finally take verbal questions and did as badly on them, if not worse, than they did with the written questions.

 

90% of the room were pro-gun men and women from Jacksonville. The only anti-gun people were the speakers and the two women who organized the meeting.

 

To the best of my knowledge, there were no TWAW members there, nor any other official pro gun group employees there. 

 

Whatever they wanted to happen was pretty much overwhelmed by the audience, who were polite but not very much in agreement.


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