GWBH Posted July 2, 2019 at 07:53 PM Share Posted July 2, 2019 at 07:53 PM How did your Rep vote on the new gas tax hike?It's an eye opener for me.I'm ready for a third party... https://www.illinoisreview.com/illinoisreview/2019/06/how-did-your-illinois-state-rep-vote-on-the-gas-tax-hike-.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny15 Posted July 2, 2019 at 08:12 PM Share Posted July 2, 2019 at 08:12 PM Skillicorn voted present. Would have preferred a straight no. Sent from my SM-G892U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmagloo Posted July 2, 2019 at 08:37 PM Share Posted July 2, 2019 at 08:37 PM I wonder how legal it is to divvy up state funds proportionately by party to influence a vote. Sounds like blackmail by every single definition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RECarry Posted July 2, 2019 at 10:32 PM Share Posted July 2, 2019 at 10:32 PM Skillicorn voted present. Would have preferred a straight no. Sent from my SM-G892U using Tapatalk Are you sure? I see Wheeler as Present, Skillicorn as No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weed Posted July 2, 2019 at 11:44 PM Share Posted July 2, 2019 at 11:44 PM My Rep. Spain has a Y but isn’t circled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPistol Posted July 3, 2019 at 12:00 AM Share Posted July 3, 2019 at 12:00 AM That put the pressure on the super-minority Republican Senate Caucus to come up with some votes so they their cronies could get some crumbs from the $45 billion capital improvement feast about to take place. FIFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted July 3, 2019 at 12:08 AM Share Posted July 3, 2019 at 12:08 AM My rep voted for every tax increase, not surprised since he is a rank and file Madigan whipping boy, but rest assured he sure as heck didn't and will never get my vote! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RacerDave6 Posted July 3, 2019 at 12:38 AM Share Posted July 3, 2019 at 12:38 AM Skillicorn voted present. Would have preferred a straight no. Sent from my SM-G892U using TapatalkThere is a N next to his name. He voted No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa Posted July 3, 2019 at 01:18 AM Share Posted July 3, 2019 at 01:18 AM I can't believe Bryant voted yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted July 3, 2019 at 01:25 AM Share Posted July 3, 2019 at 01:25 AM Let us not forget they voted themselves a raise to offset all the new taxes they voted yes for, a raise that from the tax collection piggy banks that are already empty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglebob Posted July 3, 2019 at 02:05 AM Share Posted July 3, 2019 at 02:05 AM I can't believe Bryant voted yes! If someone runs against her in the primary I think I'll vote for them or a write in in the general election if she is running for relection. She voted for the income tax hike as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatch_be_me Posted July 3, 2019 at 02:46 AM Share Posted July 3, 2019 at 02:46 AM I don't care how anyone voted because I went up to Wisconsin and filled up my car and three gas cans (~35 gallons) for $2.54. It's $2.88 near my house. Saved $10 by driving 20 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted July 3, 2019 at 03:09 AM Share Posted July 3, 2019 at 03:09 AM I don't care how anyone voted because I went up to Wisconsin and filled up my car and three gas cans (~35 gallons) for $2.54. It's $2.88 near my house. Saved $10 by driving 20 minutes. You are still getting a deal over where I'm at in Lake County, $3.13 locally, $2.72 just over the WI border, and from what I hear Lake County is pushing hard to impliment another 8 cents a gallon tax. A weekly trip into WI is now part of our schedule, fill up the wife's car and bring back ~25 gallons in cans for my vehicle and the lawn tractor every week, going to start doing more grocery shopping in WI while we are up there as well to leverage the overall lower prices. Buying ~50 gallons of gas in WI every week should save us over $100 a month when all is said and done if Lake County adds their 8 cents extra. On a side note, I went to a local store today and they were sold out of 5 gallon gas cans, usually they have at least a dozen on the shelf so I feel we are not alone in planning roadtrips to WI... I also noticed that the local gas stations that are usually packed with people waiting to fill up around rush hour were nearly empty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatch_be_me Posted July 3, 2019 at 03:13 AM Share Posted July 3, 2019 at 03:13 AM I don't care how anyone voted because I went up to Wisconsin and filled up my car and three gas cans (~35 gallons) for $2.54. It's $2.88 near my house. Saved $10 by driving 20 minutes. You are still getting a deal over where I'm at in Lake County, $3.13 locally, $2.72 just over the WI border, and from what I hear Lake County is pushing hard to impliment another 8 cents a gallon tax. A weekly trip into WI is now part of our schedule, fill up the wife's car and bring back ~25 gallons in cans for my vehicle and the lawn tractor every week, going to start doing more grocery shopping in WI while we are up there as well to leverage the overall lower prices. Buying ~50 gallons of gas in WI every week should save us over $100 a month when all is said and done if Lake County adds their 8 cents extra. On a side note, I went to a local store today and they were sold out of 5 gallon gas cans, usually they have at least a dozen on the shelf so I feel we are not alone in planning roadtrips to WI... I also noticed that the local gas stations that are usually packed with people waiting to fill up around rush hour were nearly empty. I had to wait in line to get gas today in WI and on the last day of June there were lines at local IL stations. Today? Lighter than normal traffic through stations from what I saw. I can't wait for them to realize that they drove out so much business. Border stations in IL are going to take a big hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny15 Posted July 3, 2019 at 04:44 AM Share Posted July 3, 2019 at 04:44 AM Skillicorn voted present. Would have preferred a straight no. Sent from my SM-G892U using Tapatalk There is a N next to his name. He voted No.Your right he did vote no. Sent from my SM-G892U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdf4 Posted July 3, 2019 at 05:29 AM Share Posted July 3, 2019 at 05:29 AM Both Stewart and Chesney voted No as well as fix the foid bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTX63 Posted July 3, 2019 at 09:51 AM Share Posted July 3, 2019 at 09:51 AM I listen to Governor P's speech and how Illinois is creating x # of new jobs and how much infrastructure will be improved, until Illinois has what will be considered the best roads in the nation. The only fact in the above sentence was that the Governor gave a speech (note that it was in Chicago).The old government creating jobs thingy is such a bill of goods but the average lemming on the street will swallow it whole.The Illinois roads I have driven on over 50+ years have been neglected, patched, neglected and patched again. Unless you see the crews ripping them out, don't bank on a smooth ride anytime soon. Illinois government dementia is kicking in, again.Did they not factor in the price increases related to this new gas tax?Do they think the trucking companies and the related manufacturers are going to just absorb the higher costs of transport? My prediction on the percentage of the new revenue that actually goes towards what is was intended will be based on the roll of two dice, added together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted July 3, 2019 at 01:25 PM Share Posted July 3, 2019 at 01:25 PM This gas tax, among all the others, is going to wipe out all of the debt that was created by the republican governor rauner. Why's everyone freaking out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear226 Posted July 3, 2019 at 01:53 PM Share Posted July 3, 2019 at 01:53 PM Both my reps voted no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modeler1945 Posted July 3, 2019 at 03:13 PM Share Posted July 3, 2019 at 03:13 PM I'm kind of surprised McDermed voted. Usually I agree with her votes. But I guess I am not completely surprised. She does have a large section of I80 in her district including a portion through Joliet that is in desperate need of work. She is consistently pro-2A, but I don't appreciate getting hosed at the pump & license renewal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilbrownrifle Posted July 3, 2019 at 03:20 PM Share Posted July 3, 2019 at 03:20 PM I'm kind of surprised McDermed voted. Usually I agree with her votes. But I guess I am not completely surprised. She does have a large section of I80 in her district including a portion through Joliet that is in desperate need of work. She is consistently pro-2A, but I don't appreciate getting hosed at the pump & license renewal. If you've listened to a few of the general assembly sessions, and I know most reading this have listened to a lot, more than me in most cases, you realize it's all spend, spend, spend for both sides. Let's say Chicago has some BS "summer jobs" handout for a million they are pushing and what do you get from the Rs? No! We cant spend that! Or... That's nice and all, but we could use "x" amount down state or in the suburbs please. Sounds good says all! Passed. Since there are not going to be any spending cuts, and the money is not going to be spent on the pension disaster, why woulnd't the Rs support the money faucet so they can get their 30% take? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilbrownrifle Posted July 3, 2019 at 03:31 PM Share Posted July 3, 2019 at 03:31 PM I don't care how anyone voted because I went up to Wisconsin and filled up my car and three gas cans (~35 gallons) for $2.54. It's $2.88 near my house. Saved $10 by driving 20 minutes. You are still getting a deal over where I'm at in Lake County, $3.13 locally, $2.72 just over the WI border, and from what I hear Lake County is pushing hard to impliment another 8 cents a gallon tax. A weekly trip into WI is now part of our schedule, fill up the wife's car and bring back ~25 gallons in cans for my vehicle and the lawn tractor every week, going to start doing more grocery shopping in WI while we are up there as well to leverage the overall lower prices. Buying ~50 gallons of gas in WI every week should save us over $100 a month when all is said and done if Lake County adds their 8 cents extra. On a side note, I went to a local store today and they were sold out of 5 gallon gas cans, usually they have at least a dozen on the shelf so I feel we are not alone in planning roadtrips to WI... I also noticed that the local gas stations that are usually packed with people waiting to fill up around rush hour were nearly empty. I had to wait in line to get gas today in WI and on the last day of June there were lines at local IL stations. Today? Lighter than normal traffic through stations from what I saw. I can't wait for them to realize that they drove out so much business. Border stations in IL are going to take a big hit. This has been proven out time and time again. A big issue out east is high cigarette taxes. Not only can most people drive to the border of one of those small coastal NEs states pretty easily, but the Indian reservations don't collect tobacco tax. So you spend an hour or so one day a month, save hundreds and stock up on your cigs for the month. The cook county soda tax failed because the distance to cheap food in other counties was more manageable, The difference with this though, is that Illinois is a much bigger state. Stations on the borders are going to take a big hit, but most of the state will have to eat it because of the distance. So, they will likely, IMO, be revenue positive on this though I'd love to be wrong. I don't see the national c-store/petroleum marketer associations fighting this, and I'm not sure how much leverage the IL petroleum marketers association has with this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWBH Posted July 3, 2019 at 03:49 PM Author Share Posted July 3, 2019 at 03:49 PM I noticed Severin out of the 117th Dist (office in Marion, IL) voted for it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted July 3, 2019 at 05:59 PM Share Posted July 3, 2019 at 05:59 PM So, they will likely, IMO, be revenue positive on this though I'd love to be wrong. Revenue postitive in the 'gas tax' column, likely negative in the others when all the beans are pushed around and the trickle down effects are factored in. Example of another column that will likely show a negative: For every dollar people have to spend at the pump and pay the new 19 cent tax (right now that averages out to about 6 cents a dollar tax) that is a dollar they are not spending somewhere else and being charged 6-10% sales tax. That is a state tax revenue wash right now, and even if gas prices fall the net gain on the consumer dollar spent and taxed is nil to the state, and now (as if they care) that tax revenue is earmarked and not a general fund. BTW: Saw a post on social media (not verified) but it said Pilot gas stations are reporting an 85% increase in gas sales along the Kentucky border these last few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted July 3, 2019 at 06:01 PM Share Posted July 3, 2019 at 06:01 PM Seems relevant enough to the discussion Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmarkla Posted July 3, 2019 at 06:11 PM Share Posted July 3, 2019 at 06:11 PM Let us not forget they voted themselves a raise to offset all the new taxes they voted yes for, a raise that from the tax collection piggy banks that are already empty.Not only a raise but an increase in the stipend for meals,and an increase in reimbursement for mileage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilbrownrifle Posted July 3, 2019 at 07:34 PM Share Posted July 3, 2019 at 07:34 PM So, they will likely, IMO, be revenue positive on this though I'd love to be wrong. Revenue postitive in the 'gas tax' column, likely negative in the others when all the beans are pushed around and the trickle down effects are factored in. Example of another column that will likely show a negative: For every dollar people have to spend at the pump and pay the new 19 cent tax (right now that averages out to about 6 cents a dollar tax) that is a dollar they are not spending somewhere else and being charged 6-10% sales tax. That is a state tax revenue wash right now, and even if gas prices fall the net gain on the consumer dollar spent and taxed is nil to the state, and now (as if they care) that tax revenue is earmarked and not a general fund. BTW: Saw a post on social media (not verified) but it said Pilot gas stations are reporting an 85% increase in gas sales along the Kentucky border these last few days. Absolutely. That's probably the biggest tax issue in Illinois. Every dollar you spend on something, such as a meal or a hotel room, has a notable but usually hidden tax built in. They are now forced to start with the not so hidden taxes, though of course property taxes have always been a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWBH Posted July 3, 2019 at 07:51 PM Author Share Posted July 3, 2019 at 07:51 PM Seems relevant enough to the discussion Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkOh that's relevant!! Government organized crime via the Madigan / Pritzker Family Cartel...Gotta get those campaign funds and slush money from somewhere... On the tax situation - wonder how many "carve outs" are in place and who they go to...? Just say'n... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chislinger Posted July 3, 2019 at 09:45 PM Share Posted July 3, 2019 at 09:45 PM I can't wait for them to realize that they drove out so much business. Border stations in IL are going to take a big hit.There's still some left after the previous rounds of Illinois gas tax hikes?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglebob Posted July 4, 2019 at 12:45 AM Share Posted July 4, 2019 at 12:45 AM The legislators voted for an increase in their mileage reimbursement, so unlike us they don't have to pay that increase in the gas tax like we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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