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#1 abrooks8140

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Posted 03 November 2019 - 07:09 PM

I sent in for my Foid and it was denied. Now I knew it would get denied due to a mental health stay at a local hospital. It had now been over the 5 year period, 6 years in May since that admission. I don't know exactly what the next steps are for appealing. I received the appeal letter but how do I go about getting the evaluation done and are there only certain doctors that do it? Also found a service that would help but is it worth it as on the low end they quoted $500. Has anyone been successful with appeal how long did it take?

#2 Molly B.

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Posted 03 November 2019 - 09:16 PM

Appeals filed with proper documents from a doctor are usually successful but take a year or more to be processed.  They have to clear the mental health board/committee first and then processed by the Illinois State Police who have a huge backlog of appeals on their hands.

 

When it has been more than 5 years, your doctor or someone certified to do mental health evaluations can sign the form and they mail it in to the ISP.  The forms that need to be filed are:

 

https://ispfsb.com/P...vestigation.pdf

 

https://ispfsb.com/P...pealRequest.pdf

 

https://ispfsb.com/P...lHealthCert.pdf


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Posted 04 November 2019 - 05:41 AM

Just my opinion.I don't want to get anybody angry.There are certain truths in life.I have been through this process.The truth here is.If you have a history of mental issues.What ever they are.Your not going to get a foid.Unless you know someone who has some great influence with the powers to be.Illinois is about collecting foids,not issueing them.Just look at the laws being past.You can listen to this & that about.Contact this person or that,but the reality is.IT ain't gonna happen.If you want to sit around for two years and hope for the best.Thats up to you.As Ive said.The word "Mental" is the kiss of death in the foid issue.Anyone who tells you different is blowing smoke in your butt



#4 Molly B.

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Posted 04 November 2019 - 08:11 AM

I disagree and I don't blow smoke anywhere. It may take two years but if you are cleared with the mental evaluation and have no other prohibitors, you can be approved for a Foid card.
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Posted 04 November 2019 - 05:37 PM

I sent in for my Foid and it was denied. Now I knew it would get denied due to a mental health stay at a local hospital. It had now been over the 5 year period, 6 years in May since that admission. I don't know exactly what the next steps are for appealing. I received the appeal letter but how do I go about getting the evaluation done and are there only certain doctors that do it? Also found a service that would help but is it worth it as on the low end they quoted $500. Has anyone been successful with appeal how long did it take?

 

I had the same questions as you. I need to appeal for a mental health prohibitor I got from nine years ago this month. I wrestled for a while to figure out how to do it. I learned that since it was over five years ago I could have my regular personal physician sign off on my mental health certification form and they did. And, believe it or not they are a Democrat who thinks what the state is doing is ridiculous! Perhaps you can try your regular doctor like I did. So far, I have saved a ton of money this way. NOW, if I can only get a response from the ISP as to whether they even received my documentation!... My paper work was submitted nearly three months ago and there is still no sign of it even being reviewed. :cry: :mad(


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Posted 04 November 2019 - 05:48 PM

Appeals filed with proper documents from a doctor are usually successful but take a year or more to be processed. 

 

Molly,

 

A YEAR or more? How is that legal? That's ridiculous. By that time, I could be long gone dead and buried. Or moved out of the state. Whichever comes first. Dang. :no:


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#7 Molly B.

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Posted 04 November 2019 - 05:59 PM

 

Appeals filed with proper documents from a doctor are usually successful but take a year or more to be processed. 

 

Molly,

 

A YEAR or more? How is that legal? That's ridiculous. By that time, I could be long gone dead and buried. Or moved out of the state. Whichever comes first. Dang. :no:

 


It isn't constitutional - but the ISP justifies the delay by saying there is a backlog of appeals and there is no provision in IL law that sets a deadline for processing appeals.


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Posted 04 November 2019 - 06:33 PM

Move to Chicago...

Aquire a gun.....

If you get busted with it..the 'paperwork' will be done in 24 hours and you'll be back home before the afternoon broadcast of "The View"...

Aquire another gun.

Rinse...Repeat.


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Posted 05 November 2019 - 10:30 AM

 

Appeals filed with proper documents from a doctor are usually successful but take a year or more to be processed. 

 

Molly,

 

A YEAR or more? How is that legal? That's ridiculous. By that time, I could be long gone dead and buried. Or moved out of the state. Whichever comes first. Dang. :no:

 

That's the whole idea.  This state does not want you to have a gun.


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Posted 05 November 2019 - 04:35 PM

Just because you "can" be approved for a FOID does not mean they have to issue you one.The word "mental" in any capacity will be reason enough to cancel you out.So…….if the state just blows you off.Who in the USA can say to them. "HEY" you guys are going against the constitution ! If you break the law.Can you use the excuse."I was just to busy" I don't think so.I think we should stop making excuses about the appeal going from 3 months to two years,and be realistic.At this point,are we worried about stepping on someone toes.Lets be honest.Were getting screwed and as has been said many times.The goal is to take guns from honest citizens.As best they try.The police (god bless em) aren't going to take all the guns from the bad guys.So where does that leave us ?



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Posted 05 November 2019 - 05:37 PM

Just because you "can" be approved for a FOID does not mean they have to issue you one.The word "mental" in any capacity will be reason enough to cancel you out.So…….if the state just blows you off.Who in the USA can say to them. "HEY" you guys are going against the constitution ! If you break the law.Can you use the excuse."I was just to busy" I don't think so.I think we should stop making excuses about the appeal going from 3 months to two years,and be realistic.At this point,are we worried about stepping on someone toes.Lets be honest.Were getting screwed and as has been said many times.The goal is to take guns from honest citizens.As best they try.The police (god bless em) aren't going to take all the guns from the bad guys.So where does that leave us ?

 

 

If a person has been evaluated and cleared by a qualified medical professional, that is the process the ISP must follow under current law. ISP is correct though when they say there is no time frame for processing an appeal.  The problem with mental health appeals is that the appeal must go through quality control to make sure all documents have been submitted, then a review to make certain the evaluation was conducted by the proper medical professional, then it must be reviewed and processed by the director of the firearm services bureau. 

This last step is what takes the longest - in my opinion - because the appeal is then lumped in with all the other thousands of appeals for all the other reasons and it's like a 12 lane highway bottle-necked down to one lane.


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Posted 05 November 2019 - 06:56 PM

Molly : I have all  the respect in the world for you and what you do.I would never want to offend you.No matter what is said.The state is doing a song & dance routine on it's citizens and laughing at us as they do it.There seems to be no end to what they come up with to limit the access to firearms.I'm sure it has crossed the minds (MINDS ???) of our elected officials.That by doing this mental appeal thing,especially with people just seeking out help.That many people that could be helped will sink deeper into depression,anxiety.This of course is not part of the agenda.Let them crash & burn.As long as we get that foid.It's criminal and one day I hope it comes back & bites them in the butt.Ive said enough.I got the heck out of Illinois and glad I did.Best of luck to all the victims of the socialist,communist controlled state.As Tom Horn said just before he was hung for a murder he didn't do.Ive told my story and that's all Ive got to say on that issue.Good luck,god bless.fight the good fight YES "FIGHT"






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