pdpsc Posted August 30, 2013 at 03:30 AM Share Posted August 30, 2013 at 03:30 AM These are the live scan fingerprint vendors that are smaller, mostly fixed-site, operations. These vendors may not be the closest to you, but will offer more days and times for appointments or walk-ins. Big River Investigations (Licensed)437 N 9th Street Quincy, Illinois 62301 217-228-9114 http://www.bigriverinvestigations.com/ AP Private Detective Agency (Licensed)17084 Winchester Avenue Hazel Crest, Illinois 60429 708-335-3500 http://www.apprivatedetectiveltd.com/ Kevin W. McClain Inv. (Licensed)202 South Broadway Central City, Illinois 62801 618-532-1152 http://www.mcclaininvestigations.com/ Southern Illinois Finger Printing (Licensed)60 S Main Glen Carbon, Illinois 62034 618-288-6662http://www.southerni...erprinting.com/ Metro Detective Agency (Licensed)1500 E Lincoln Highway, Suite 2DeKalb, Illinois 60115815-230-7970http://illinoisfingerprinting.net/ Rich Wooten & Associates (Licensed)400 W 76th Street, Suite 215Chicago, IL 60620773-651-3826http://www.richwooten.org/ A-D Background Resources (Licensed)660 S Randall RoadSt. Charles, Illinois 60174847-767-7402http://www.a-dbackgr....com/index.html Infotrack Information Services (Licensed)111 Deerlake Road Suite 105 Deerfield, Illinois 60015 888-606-2010 http://www.infotrack...om/livescan.php Background Resources (Licensed)29W120 Butterfield Road, Suite 103B Warrenville, Illinois 60555 630-873-2270 http://www.backgroun...es/fng_serv.htm Digby's Detective and Security Agency (Licensed)2630 South Wabash Ave. Chicago, Illinois 60616 312-326-1100 http://www.digbysecurity.com/ Fact Finders Group (Licensed)4747Lincoln Mall Drive Suite 300 Matteson, Illinois 60443 708-283-4200 http://www.factfinde...gerprinting.php AAA Fingerprinting Service (Licensed)1320 Tower RoadSchaumburg, IL 60173847-706-6789http://www.itouchbiometrics.com/main/ American Security Srvcs (Licensed)1515 S Harlem AveForest Park, IL 60130708-383-7635http://www.americans...intservices.php Kentech Consulting Inc (Licensed)520 W. Erie Suite 340Chicago, Illinois 60654888-SIX-CHEChttp://www.ekentech....ngerprints.html Kate's Detective Agency (Licensed)7810 S. ClaremontChicago, IL 60620773-436-3788http://www.katesdete...nting-services/ Trace Identity Services (Licensed)222 Vollmer Road, Suite AC Chicago Heights, IL 708-754-2900 http://www.traceidentitysi.com/ These are the "traveling" vendors who host multiple sites in one or more regions of the state on varying days/times. These vendors may come to a site closer to you, but they will generally have less availability for days/times for appointments or walk-ins at their traveling sites. Check their websites for location details. Accurate Biometrics (Licensed)4849 N. Milwaukee Suite 101 Chicago, IL 60630 866-361-9944 http://www.accurateb..._Region_Map.asp Morpho Trust USA (Licensed)1650 Wabash Ave. Suite D Springfield, Illinois 62704 800-377-2080 https://www.ibtfinge...ocations/?st=il ARS Industries (Licensed)10 S. Riverside Plaza, Ste 1800Chicago, IL 60606312-388-0040http://www.thefinger...m/locations.php Futures in Rehabilitation Management, Inc. d/b/a FIRM Systems (Licensed)206 South Sixth StreetSpringfield, Illinois 62701866-721-1203https://sites.google.com/a/firminc.com/firmsystems/fingerprint-services Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdpsc Posted August 30, 2013 at 03:48 AM Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 at 03:48 AM IMPORTANT NOTE: You must bring your driver's license or state ID card with you to be fingerprinted. If you do not have a driver's license or state ID card, there is a list of secondary identification documents that are acceptable. You would need two of the documents on that secondary list. PM me with your email address if you need the secondary identification document list. Make sure that your vendor provides you with a receipt that lists the Transaction Control Number (TCN). You must have a TCN which is 16 characters long. Example TCN: LS12345L12345678 If you see "(Licensed)" after the company name, that means that I verified that the vendor has an active Fingerprint Vendor Agency license issued by IDFPR. I also hot linked to the vendor's website or the page on the website that is most pertinent. Please note that the ISP's instructions specify being fingerprinted by a licensed vendor. The ISP's vendor list PDF includes some vendors who are not yet properly licensed. Here is what the ISP's instructions say: Prior to submitting an application to be approved as a Concealed Carry Firearms Instructor in Illinois, firearms instructors MUST contact a licensed Live Scan vendor to be fingerprinted. At that time, a Transaction Control Number (TCN) will be issued to the applicant. The TCN is required in order to submit an application to be approved as a Concealed Carry Firearms Instructor. APPLICATIONS WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED WITHOUT A VALID TCN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RacerDave6 Posted August 30, 2013 at 04:04 AM Share Posted August 30, 2013 at 04:04 AM Thanks Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdpsc Posted August 30, 2013 at 04:20 AM Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 at 04:20 AM The list isn't all-inclusive. I added some vendors I don't necessarily know personally to help get more smaller fixed-site vendors on the list, but if they are there, I have verified that they are licensed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylok Posted August 30, 2013 at 02:00 PM Share Posted August 30, 2013 at 02:00 PM Danville is not able to do prints right now because the person who did them moved. They are in the process of training a new person. They hope to be back up and running in a couple weeks to a month from now. Soooo I gota figure out the next closest one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdpsc Posted August 30, 2013 at 02:08 PM Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 at 02:08 PM Danville is not able to do prints right now because the person who did them moved. They are in the process of training a new person. They hope to be back up and running in a couple weeks to a month from now. Soooo I gota figure out the next closest one I believe one or more of the traveling vendors go to Danville. I'll call Bill Clutter and ask him what's going on too. UPDATE: I removed Clutter in Danville from the list. I spoke with Bill Clutter and he has staffing issues that will take him out of the market for a while. When Clutter gets up and running again, I'll put him back on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylok Posted August 30, 2013 at 02:15 PM Share Posted August 30, 2013 at 02:15 PM Also take Morpho Trust USA (Licensed)1650 Wabash Ave. Suite D Springfield, Illinois 62704 800-377-2080 https://www.ibtfinge...ocations/?st=il off the list. She just told me they don't do finger prints for carry and besides they don't submit them to FBI or anyone. They scan them then put them on a card. This is such a cluster _____. What the heck difference does it make if they're scanned or ink on a damn card? How AZ is managing is beyond me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdpsc Posted August 30, 2013 at 02:20 PM Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 at 02:20 PM Also take Morpho Trust USA (Licensed)1650 Wabash Ave. Suite D Springfield, Illinois 62704 800-377-2080 https://www.ibtfinge...ocations/?st=il off the list. She just told me they don't do finger prints for carry and besides they don't submit them to FBI or anyone. They scan them then put them on a card. This is such a cluster _____. What the heck difference does it make if they're scanned or ink on a damn card? How AZ is managing is beyond me That is extremely odd. Why the h*** they would have gone through the licensing process to get licensed as a fingerprint vendor in this god forsaken state and not do what every other vendor is doing is mind blowing. Me thinks that employee has no clue what she is talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylok Posted August 30, 2013 at 02:22 PM Share Posted August 30, 2013 at 02:22 PM I think that might be the case pdpsc. This just came out yesterday so maybe not every ONE at every vendor is up to speed. I'm praying they get something worked out in Danville soon otherwise I have to drive clear the heck to springfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylok Posted August 30, 2013 at 03:08 PM Share Posted August 30, 2013 at 03:08 PM I talked to champaign co sheriff offices. They do have a scanner but they just scan then print them off on a card and you send them to wherever. I don't think that will work will it? Doesn't it have to go to the FBI directly from the vendor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdpsc Posted August 30, 2013 at 03:47 PM Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 at 03:47 PM I talked to champaign co sheriff offices. They do have a scanner but they just scan then print them off on a card and you send them to wherever. I don't think that will work will it? Doesn't it have to go to the FBI directly from the vendor? That will not be acceptable. It must be electronic. Folks need to get off the thought that LE agencies can/will be doing this. There are several technical issues that will prevent them from doing it. Having a live scan machine does not make you able to do non-criminal justice fingerprinting. There is a more to it than just having the equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobapunk Posted August 30, 2013 at 03:55 PM Share Posted August 30, 2013 at 03:55 PM I think that might be the case pdpsc. This just came out yesterday so maybe not every ONE at every vendor is up to speed. I'm praying they get something worked out in Danville soon otherwise I have to drive clear the heck to springfield. Any of these work for you? http://www.accuratebiometrics.com/fingerprint_Results_By_Region.asp?Region=4 Dan, what about http://www.roe26.net/? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylok Posted August 30, 2013 at 04:47 PM Share Posted August 30, 2013 at 04:47 PM I think that might be the case pdpsc. This just came out yesterday so maybe not every ONE at every vendor is up to speed. I'm praying they get something worked out in Danville soon otherwise I have to drive clear the heck to springfield. Any of these work for you? http://www.accurateb...on.asp?Region=4 Dan, what about http://www.roe26.net/?Tuesday Sept 3rd, thank you sir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdpsc Posted August 30, 2013 at 04:50 PM Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 at 04:50 PM I think that might be the case pdpsc. This just came out yesterday so maybe not every ONE at every vendor is up to speed. I'm praying they get something worked out in Danville soon otherwise I have to drive clear the heck to springfield. Any of these work for you? http://www.accuratebiometrics.com/fingerprint_Results_By_Region.asp?Region=4 Dan, what about http://www.roe26.net/? I did not put any of the ROEs on the list, because I do not know if they are on there to do anything beyond teachers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobapunk Posted August 30, 2013 at 05:35 PM Share Posted August 30, 2013 at 05:35 PM The one in Macomb told my BIL that they will be ready to go next week...? I hate to spread rumors, but I trust my BIL. He said they will charge $50. Might be a good option for those in more remote areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobapunk Posted August 30, 2013 at 05:39 PM Share Posted August 30, 2013 at 05:39 PM I think that might be the case pdpsc. This just came out yesterday so maybe not every ONE at every vendor is up to speed. I'm praying they get something worked out in Danville soon otherwise I have to drive clear the heck to springfield. Any of these work for you? http://www.accurateb...on.asp?Region=4 Dan, what about http://www.roe26.net/?Tuesday Sept 3rd, thank you sir! You are welcome! I was going to post the dates they were in Peoria, since that might be closer than Springfield for you. Then I thought they might have locations even closer! I am thinking of getting mine done on the 5th in Peoria, but I would really like to see a note from the ISP stating that NRA Instructors will be approved as long as their background checks out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylok Posted August 30, 2013 at 05:53 PM Share Posted August 30, 2013 at 05:53 PM On the application what is TCN#? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingerprints Posted August 30, 2013 at 06:02 PM Share Posted August 30, 2013 at 06:02 PM On the application what is TCN#? It's the Transaction Control Number or the number you'll need from the fingerprint vendor in order to put on the application so ISP can track down your fingerprint submissions. PDPSC, correct me if I am wrong but I believe you can use the DCN as well if that's all they give you since it has the TCN within the DCN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdpsc Posted August 30, 2013 at 06:08 PM Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 at 06:08 PM On the application what is TCN#? It's the Transaction Control Number or the number you'll need from the fingerprint vendor in order to put on the application so ISP can track down your fingerprint submissions. PDPSC, correct me if I am wrong but I believe you can use the DCN as well if that's all they give you since it has the TCN within the DCN. No. The DCN is only the last 9 characters of the TCN. The first 7 characters of the TCN identifies the machine. So, no, a DCN is not sufficient and I don't know why a vendor would give out a DCN. You must have a TCN which is 16 characters long. Example TCN: LS12345L12345678 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fingerprints Posted August 30, 2013 at 06:41 PM Share Posted August 30, 2013 at 06:41 PM On the application what is TCN#? It's the Transaction Control Number or the number you'll need from the fingerprint vendor in order to put on the application so ISP can track down your fingerprint submissions. PDPSC, correct me if I am wrong but I believe you can use the DCN as well if that's all they give you since it has the TCN within the DCN. No. The DCN is only the last 9 characters of the TCN. The first 7 characters of the TCN identifies the machine. So, no, a DCN is not sufficient and I don't know why a vendor would give out a DCN. You must have a TCN which is 16 characters long. Example TCN: LS12345L12345678 Thanks, I had them switched around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awan Posted August 30, 2013 at 09:21 PM Share Posted August 30, 2013 at 09:21 PM Here is the ISP vendor list: http://www.isp.state.il.us/docs/livescanfpvendlst.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdpsc Posted August 30, 2013 at 11:10 PM Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 at 11:10 PM Here is the ISP vendor list: http://www.isp.state.il.us/docs/livescanfpvendlst.pdf That has been posted several times in these forums. Please note that there are vendors on that list who are not properly licensed yet. Please note that the ISP's instructions specify a licensed vendor: Prior to submitting an application to be approved as a Concealed Carry Firearms Instructor in Illinois, firearms instructors MUST contact a licensed Live Scan vendor to be fingerprinted. At that time, a Transaction Control Number (TCN) will be issued to the applicant. The TCN is required in order to submit an application to be approved as a Concealed Carry Firearms Instructor. APPLICATIONS WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED WITHOUT A VALID TCN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango7 Posted August 31, 2013 at 03:32 AM Share Posted August 31, 2013 at 03:32 AM I talked to champaign co sheriff offices. They do have a scanner but they just scan then print them off on a card and you send them to wherever. I don't think that will work will it? Doesn't it have to go to the FBI directly from the vendor? That will not be acceptable. It must be electronic. Folks need to get off the thought that LE agencies can/will be doing this. There are several technical issues that will prevent them from doing it. Having a live scan machine does not make you able to do non-criminal justice fingerprinting. There is a more to it than just having the equipment. I'm asking here instead of cluttering up the other thread. While I know that there are local police and sheriffs departments that only print bad guys and are not set up for non-criminal printing, there are those that offer fingerprinting services for the public for a nominal fee (or sometimes free to residents), including LiveScan. Will these agencies be able to provide the service, or are we required to visit a private business to get this step performed? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdpsc Posted August 31, 2013 at 03:37 AM Author Share Posted August 31, 2013 at 03:37 AM If you interpret what the ISP put on their website very strictly, you must get printed by a LICENSED vendor. If the LE agency you visit has a cost center and is setup for non-criminal justice transactions and they are licensed (yes, the licensing law even applies to government agencies), you should be fine. I don't think you'll find an LE agency that can meet all of those conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awan Posted August 31, 2013 at 04:02 AM Share Posted August 31, 2013 at 04:02 AM Here is the ISP vendor list: http://www.isp.state...anfpvendlst.pdf That has been posted several times in these forums. Please note that there are vendors on that list who are not properly licensed yet. Please note that the ISP's instructions specify a licensed vendor: Prior to submitting an application to be approved as a Concealed Carry Firearms Instructor in Illinois, firearms instructors MUST contact a licensed Live Scan vendor to be fingerprinted. At that time, a Transaction Control Number (TCN) will be issued to the applicant. The TCN is required in order to submit an application to be approved as a Concealed Carry Firearms Instructor. APPLICATIONS WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED WITHOUT A VALID TCN. Well, maybe you should contact ISP and tell them their list is wrong! http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn82/awanderlust/List_zps35cc9186.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdpsc Posted August 31, 2013 at 04:03 AM Author Share Posted August 31, 2013 at 04:03 AM I've explained in these forums once before why that is. I don't feel like re-typing it tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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