Tvandermyde Posted May 25, 2011 at 07:33 PM Share Posted May 25, 2011 at 07:33 PM Today the Illinois supreme court accepted the appeal of wilson v cook county the challenge to the cook county semi-auto ban. Game on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrat Posted May 25, 2011 at 07:36 PM Share Posted May 25, 2011 at 07:36 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheepleNoMore Posted May 25, 2011 at 07:49 PM Share Posted May 25, 2011 at 07:49 PM I hope we get our desired outcome from the State Court. It's getting ridiculous that every little aspect of laws denying our Second Amendment right has to go to the SCOTUS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonap Posted May 25, 2011 at 07:51 PM Share Posted May 25, 2011 at 07:51 PM Thank You!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Gwinn Posted May 25, 2011 at 07:55 PM Share Posted May 25, 2011 at 07:55 PM Very good news. It'll be interesting to listen to the oral arguments! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockman Posted May 25, 2011 at 08:03 PM Share Posted May 25, 2011 at 08:03 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrat Posted May 25, 2011 at 08:04 PM Share Posted May 25, 2011 at 08:04 PM Does anyone know roughly what kind of timeline one can expect once a case is accepted by the state Supreme court? Just looking for a ballpark... Are we looking at weeks, months, 1-2 yrs, 3-5 yrs, 5+ years? edit: typo fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tvandermyde Posted May 25, 2011 at 08:12 PM Author Share Posted May 25, 2011 at 08:12 PM Best guess is we will get a briefing schedule in june with argueme ts maybe in august, with an opinion say january if things run smoothe but the opinion could take a little longer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted May 25, 2011 at 08:17 PM Share Posted May 25, 2011 at 08:17 PM Beautiful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyGuy Posted May 25, 2011 at 08:31 PM Share Posted May 25, 2011 at 08:31 PM I didn't realize semis were banned in Cook. So, you can only own revolvers, bolt action rifles, lever action rifles, and pump shotguns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigma Posted May 25, 2011 at 08:31 PM Share Posted May 25, 2011 at 08:31 PM So is their some sort of temporary injunction type thing where they are not able to prosecute while this case is in the works? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federal Farmer Posted May 25, 2011 at 08:43 PM Share Posted May 25, 2011 at 08:43 PM I didn't realize semis were banned in Cook. So, you can only own revolvers, bolt action rifles, lever action rifles, and pump shotguns? Not all semi-automatic rifles and pistols, but those with scary accessories and magazines over 10 rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defaultdotxbe Posted May 25, 2011 at 09:02 PM Share Posted May 25, 2011 at 09:02 PM I didn't realize semis were banned in Cook. So, you can only own revolvers, bolt action rifles, lever action rifles, and pump shotguns?the ban is written so loosely that it could be interpreted as to ban pretty much all semi automatic firearms, but its not strictly enforced (or enforced at all as best i can tell) also, home rule towns can override the county ban, basically outside of chicago its the same as the rest of the state Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigma Posted May 25, 2011 at 09:11 PM Share Posted May 25, 2011 at 09:11 PM Reading it it appear that they could loose then just make the AWB less vague but still a ban nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federal Farmer Posted May 25, 2011 at 09:30 PM Share Posted May 25, 2011 at 09:30 PM I was looking up Lincolnwood for a friend. They specifically override Cook County AWB and implement their own which is a list of rifles very similar to the list in Cook/Chicago's old ban with no feature set list. Of interest to him is:"Cole AR-15" Since his AR-15 isn't a "Cole AR-15" he's technically in the clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirflyguy Posted May 25, 2011 at 09:59 PM Share Posted May 25, 2011 at 09:59 PM This is wonderful news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwing Posted May 25, 2011 at 10:12 PM Share Posted May 25, 2011 at 10:12 PM Of interest to him is:"Cole AR-15" Since his AR-15 isn't a "Cole AR-15" he's technically in the clear. Did they really misspell "Colt" in the ban? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federal Farmer Posted May 25, 2011 at 10:46 PM Share Posted May 25, 2011 at 10:46 PM Of interest to him is:"Cole AR-15" Since his AR-15 isn't a "Cole AR-15" he's technically in the clear. Did they really misspell "Colt" in the ban? Accidently on purpose, maybe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyGuy Posted May 25, 2011 at 10:53 PM Share Posted May 25, 2011 at 10:53 PM Oh, the evil black gun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielm60660 Posted May 26, 2011 at 05:30 AM Share Posted May 26, 2011 at 05:30 AM Get 'em boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielm60660 Posted May 26, 2011 at 05:31 AM Share Posted May 26, 2011 at 05:31 AM .....and girls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitae Drinker Posted May 26, 2011 at 04:01 PM Share Posted May 26, 2011 at 04:01 PM Hmm, so 6-7 months before a decision, at best guess for best speed? Well, could be worse, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USArmyRet Posted May 26, 2011 at 05:44 PM Share Posted May 26, 2011 at 05:44 PM Great News...taking on the Chicago Machine ia always great news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USArmyRet Posted May 26, 2011 at 05:48 PM Share Posted May 26, 2011 at 05:48 PM I didn't realize semis were banned in Cook. So, you can only own revolvers, bolt action rifles, lever action rifles, and pump shotguns?the ban is written so loosely that it could be interpreted as to ban pretty much all semi automatic firearms, but its not strictly enforced (or enforced at all as best i can tell) also, home rule towns can override the county ban, basically outside of chicago its the same as the rest of the state Could you further explain that Home Rule/over riding county ban please? Can a county and or town in Illinois ban a magazine that holds over X amount of rounds? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federal Farmer Posted May 26, 2011 at 06:14 PM Share Posted May 26, 2011 at 06:14 PM I didn't realize semis were banned in Cook. So, you can only own revolvers, bolt action rifles, lever action rifles, and pump shotguns?the ban is written so loosely that it could be interpreted as to ban pretty much all semi automatic firearms, but its not strictly enforced (or enforced at all as best i can tell) also, home rule towns can override the county ban, basically outside of chicago its the same as the rest of the state Could you further explain that Home Rule/over riding county ban please? Can a county and or town in Illinois ban a magazine that holds over X amount of rounds? Thanks If a municipality that has home rule enacts its own ordinances regarding "Assault Weapons" than Cook Cty's ordinances do not apply. Yes, a town can ban magazines over X amount of rounds, for any value of X. I believe only counties over 1 million population can be home rule entities, but I am not sure of that. I'm not sure if Dupage has gotten to that level with the new census data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USArmyRet Posted May 26, 2011 at 06:21 PM Share Posted May 26, 2011 at 06:21 PM I didn't realize semis were banned in Cook. So, you can only own revolvers, bolt action rifles, lever action rifles, and pump shotguns?the ban is written so loosely that it could be interpreted as to ban pretty much all semi automatic firearms, but its not strictly enforced (or enforced at all as best i can tell) also, home rule towns can override the county ban, basically outside of chicago its the same as the rest of the state Could you further explain that Home Rule/over riding county ban please? Can a county and or town in Illinois ban a magazine that holds over X amount of rounds? Thanks If a municipality that has home rule enacts its own ordinances regarding "Assault Weapons" than Cook Cty's ordinances do not apply. Yes, a town can ban magazines over X amount of rounds, for any value of X. I believe only counties over 1 million population can be home rule entities, but I am not sure of that. I'm not sure if Dupage has gotten to that level with the new census data.Thankyou for that bit of info. Appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defaultdotxbe Posted May 26, 2011 at 06:34 PM Share Posted May 26, 2011 at 06:34 PM If a municipality that has home rule enacts its own ordinances regarding "Assault Weapons" than Cook Cty's ordinances do not apply. Yes, a town can ban magazines over X amount of rounds, for any value of X. I believe only counties over 1 million population can be home rule entities, but I am not sure of that. I'm not sure if Dupage has gotten to that level with the new census data.from the IL constitution: (a) A County which has a chief executive officer electedby the electors of the county and any municipality which hasa population of more than 25,000 are home rule units. Othermunicipalities may elect by referendum to become home ruleunits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USArmyRet Posted May 26, 2011 at 06:40 PM Share Posted May 26, 2011 at 06:40 PM If a municipality that has home rule enacts its own ordinances regarding "Assault Weapons" than Cook Cty's ordinances do not apply. Yes, a town can ban magazines over X amount of rounds, for any value of X. I believe only counties over 1 million population can be home rule entities, but I am not sure of that. I'm not sure if Dupage has gotten to that level with the new census data.from the IL constitution: (a) A County which has a chief executive officer electedby the electors of the county and any municipality which hasa population of more than 25,000 are home rule units. Othermunicipalities may elect by referendum to become home ruleunits. Good info and positive info for me regarding the reason why I asked in the first place. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylok Posted May 26, 2011 at 06:42 PM Share Posted May 26, 2011 at 06:42 PM Hey farmer don't you have a similar complaint filed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federal Farmer Posted May 26, 2011 at 07:11 PM Share Posted May 26, 2011 at 07:11 PM Hey farmer don't you have a similar complaint filed? Kinda-sorta. I am challenging a misinterpretation of Chicago's AWB, but not the AWB itself. They define an "Assault Rifle" as a semi-automatic that can accept detachable magazines and has one feature (such as bayonet mount) but have ruled my fixed magazine SKS rifles as having a detachable magazine because they can be modified to accept detachable magazines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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