MikeRalston Posted October 3, 2016 at 02:22 AM Share Posted October 3, 2016 at 02:22 AM Recently I was denied for my appeal. Long story short when I was 17 I was arrested for domestic battery and CDTP. After getting into a argument with my parents, I was never convicted of the charges, via my parents request I was sent to a behavioral hospital for a week before getting released. I underwent counseling and since that date (Novemeber 1, 2012) I have yet even get a speeding ticket. 3 years later I began going to the range with family and applied for my FOID. I was ofcourse denied, on the terms of being in a "mental facility". After the denial I completed a full psych evaluation with a liscenced psychiatrist Dr. Mark Brenzinger.(he was surprised I was denied the appeal) I was found to be the lowest risk. I also completed another counseling program with a liscenced psychiatrist because the program I was in 3.5 years prior was never officially completed. I also had 3 person letters from My mother, girlfriend, and girlfriends mother. I received my denial letter 2 months after everything was completed. My record is not expunged but has not stopped me from obtaining my EMT license or getting a job as an EMT. My question for you all is, is it worth it to pursue a hearing? I do understand it has not been 5 years but is there anyway around this? I've heard of people being able to get a FOID card in worse situations after the appeal. I am no harm to anyone. I shoot currently 3-5 times a month and am tired of not being able to have a FOID card. I've also spent over 2,000 dollars from the evaluation and the counseling program that had to be completed to fully cover everything needed for the appeal. Thanks in advance for taking the time out of your day to read this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1700715 Posted October 3, 2016 at 04:39 PM Share Posted October 3, 2016 at 04:39 PM The Denial letter from ISP should of stated any method of recourse. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glock23 Posted October 3, 2016 at 05:38 PM Share Posted October 3, 2016 at 05:38 PM I don't know that there's a way around the 5 year time limit. Once that is passed, then you can submit the required certification under Section u. of the FOID act. That being said, since you're not technically legally able to get a FOID card at the moment, whomever is taking you to the range and letting you shoot is technically breaking the law, assuming the range is in Illinois. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeRalston Posted October 3, 2016 at 06:43 PM Author Share Posted October 3, 2016 at 06:43 PM I don't know that there's a way around the 5 year time limit. Once that is passed, then you can submit the required certification under Section u. of the FOID act. That being said, since you're not technically legally able to get a FOID card at the moment, whomever is taking you to the range and letting you shoot is technically breaking the law, assuming the range is in Illinois. It's in Wisconsin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayBuona Posted October 3, 2016 at 07:35 PM Share Posted October 3, 2016 at 07:35 PM I got denied as well due to me applying as a 20 year old and i did not want to wait till i was 21. I kept coming to this forum for help/advise and i ran into one of the most helping people i have ever met. Her name on here is Molly B. I would message her seeking help and she will most likely help you to the fullest. She got my FOID denial washed away and i was able to reapply and got my FOID within 8 days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted October 3, 2016 at 08:48 PM Share Posted October 3, 2016 at 08:48 PM Recently I was denied for my appeal. Long story short when I was 17 I was arrested for domestic battery and CDTP. After getting into a argument with my parents, I was never convicted of the charges, via my parents request I was sent to a behavioral hospital for a week before getting released. I underwent counseling and since that date (Novemeber 1, 2012) I have yet even get a speeding ticket. 3 years later I began going to the range with family and applied for my FOID. I was ofcourse denied, on the terms of being in a "mental facility". After the denial I completed a full psych evaluation with a liscenced psychiatrist Dr. Mark Brenzinger.(he was surprised I was denied the appeal) I was found to be the lowest risk. I also completed another counseling program with a liscenced psychiatrist because the program I was in 3.5 years prior was never officially completed. I also had 3 person letters from My mother, girlfriend, and girlfriends mother. I received my denial letter 2 months after everything was completed. My record is not expunged but has not stopped me from obtaining my EMT license or getting a job as an EMT. My question for you all is, is it worth it to pursue a hearing? I do understand it has not been 5 years but is there anyway around this? I've heard of people being able to get a FOID card in worse situations after the appeal. I am no harm to anyone. I shoot currently 3-5 times a month and am tired of not being able to have a FOID card. I've also spent over 2,000 dollars from the evaluation and the counseling program that had to be completed to fully cover everything needed for the appeal. Thanks in advance for taking the time out of your day to read this. There is no harm in requesting an administrative hearing, but the 5 year waiting period is in the FOID Act. I don't know a way around it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NukemJim Posted October 4, 2016 at 11:53 AM Share Posted October 4, 2016 at 11:53 AM First the obligatory IANAL, and my data is about 6 years old. I was consulting with a lawyer regarding a family member who had a psych admit and was trying to find out if we could get his FOID reinstated before the 5 year waiting period was over. The lawyer advised me that it was possible but would be time consuming, arduous and expensive. The estimate I was given was 1-2 years and $5k to $10K in overall costs. I do not know if the rules/laws have changed, nor did we proceed with the attempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksman_22 Posted March 23, 2017 at 04:12 PM Share Posted March 23, 2017 at 04:12 PM Does anyone know how long the appeal process takes? I submitted an appeal about 3 weeks ago, didn't send it certified mail, and cant get anyone to pick up the phone to tell me anything let alone if they received everything needed. Any help from anyone out there would be greatly appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted March 23, 2017 at 04:19 PM Share Posted March 23, 2017 at 04:19 PM Does anyone know how long the appeal process takes? I submitted an appeal about 3 weeks ago, didn't send it certified mail, and cant get anyone to pick up the phone to tell me anything let alone if they received everything needed. Any help from anyone out there would be greatly appreciated Unfortunately, information from the ISP can be hard to come by concerning FOID appeals. Depending on the type of appeal, the average time is 6 mos. to a year - some have run longer. If you are in doubt about whether or not you sent everything they needed, please feel free to send me a PM listing what you did send. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tseeker Posted March 24, 2017 at 12:25 AM Share Posted March 24, 2017 at 12:25 AM I don't know that there's a way around the 5 year time limit. Once that is passed, then you can submit the required certification under Section u. of the FOID act. That being said, since you're not technically legally able to get a FOID card at the moment, whomever is taking you to the range and letting you shoot is technically breaking the law, assuming the range is in Illinois. Foid issue aside...If he is not otherwise precluded by law from possessing or owning firearms, I don't see any legal issues with shooting at the range while under instruction Sent from my SM-N900P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddyBoy Posted April 22, 2017 at 02:32 PM Share Posted April 22, 2017 at 02:32 PM I was convicted of "Admission of drug use" a little over a year ago. When I received my revocation letter it stated I'd be suspended for one year. Im ready to appeal & was wondering if any one has had luck with just sending the 2 required forms & a disposition? Is there really a need for the 4 notarized letters in my case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted April 22, 2017 at 04:53 PM Share Posted April 22, 2017 at 04:53 PM I was convicted of "Admission of drug use" a little over a year ago.When I received my revocation letter it stated I'd be suspended for one year. Im ready to appeal & was wondering if any one has had luck with just sending the 2 required forms & a disposition? Is there really a need for the 4 notarized letters in my case? You are not appealing the denial of your FOID card so you do not have to submit the letters. You doing more of a records correction and supplying documentation that the 1 year period has ended and you are no longer prohibited from having a FOID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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