Tvandermyde Posted July 28, 2011 at 12:49 AM Share Posted July 28, 2011 at 12:49 AM Court was interesting today for the challenge to the gun shop ban in Chicago. · The judge opened op with having some thoughts about how to proceed. Later he made it clear that the case was put on hold while the Court of Appeals sorted out Ezell. · The judge said he had read Ezell, and either implied thoroughly or a couple times. · He said that anyone paying attention to Ezell’s oral arguments it was clear that a lot of guidance seemed to be on its way from the Court. And he wanted to give that Court time to act before hearing this case. · He said the plaintiffs should file an amendment complaint that “tightens” up the facts they are pleading and issues they raise. It would be helpful to the court in deciding the case in a way that makes sense. · He asked them to identify each specific section of the Ordinance they seek to challenge, by whom, on what grounds and the specific relief sought. · He gave them three weeks to file an amended complaint. The City will reply by 8/28. To the City: · When a judge (the Ezell court) says your thumbing your nose at the Court, take note of it. · You may want to think about if you really want to move to dismiss every count. · Reevaluate the organizational standing arguments. · Think seriously about whether you have grounds to diss each count. · Made note about Easterbrook’s ruling on fees in McDonald and how the city has acted. Capitulating in light of judgment and modifying ordinances · Judge says Ezell is a very important decision. He looks to other courts for their decisions, but when the 7th circuit says something and when the Supreme Court says something, it’s important for me to consider and look at. · He also said that he could not remember any law professor using the Second and Amendment in the same sentence. The city said it was interesting that something written in 1787 is now “new” in 2011. Observations, the City’s legal team, two of them were very accommodating and humble. Not like Mara Gorges before. The Judge was versed in Ezell and had spent some time studying it. He also took note of the way Easterbrook read them the riot act in the fees decision in McDonald. And that the Court had taken notice of the City thumbing their nose at the McDonald decision. The judge wants an amended complaint cleaned up and this case is going forward. He seemed to admonish the City that their past absolute positions as in Ezell and McDonald didn’t seem like they were going to carry weight and that it was a new day. I think he was actually hinting at the City that if they were going to change the ordinance, they should do so before the court rules. The Easterbrook comment seemed to be aimed at this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarandFan Posted July 28, 2011 at 01:42 AM Share Posted July 28, 2011 at 01:42 AM Interesting. VERY interesting! I wonder if that Chicago legal team is wise enough to tell the truth to the city council ... and whether the city council is wise enough to listen? Sounds to me that "thumbing of the nose" won't be taken too kindly in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2old2play Posted July 28, 2011 at 02:21 AM Share Posted July 28, 2011 at 02:21 AM It is a new day in Illinois! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted July 28, 2011 at 02:38 AM Share Posted July 28, 2011 at 02:38 AM You know that huge rock we've been pushing up hill all these years? Do you ever feel like it finally reached the top a couple weeks ago and is just starting to roll down the other side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tvandermyde Posted July 28, 2011 at 02:53 AM Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 at 02:53 AM No Mauser. I just feel like the 101st at the Bulge and think that noise I hear is Patton coming down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2old2play Posted July 28, 2011 at 03:16 AM Share Posted July 28, 2011 at 03:16 AM Todd, now that's a great word picture! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ishmo Posted July 28, 2011 at 03:32 AM Share Posted July 28, 2011 at 03:32 AM No Mauser. I just feel like the 101st at the Bulge and think that noise I hear is Patton coming down the road.+1 on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted July 28, 2011 at 03:45 AM Share Posted July 28, 2011 at 03:45 AM No Mauser. I just feel like the 101st at the Bulge and think that noise I hear is Patton coming down the road. Thanks Todd. I'll sleep peacefully tonight knowing rough men stand ready to uphold justice on my behalf {apologies to George Orwell} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tvandermyde Posted July 28, 2011 at 03:47 AM Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 at 03:47 AM Praise the Lord and pass the ammo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markthesignguy Posted July 28, 2011 at 04:02 AM Share Posted July 28, 2011 at 04:02 AM Praise the Lord and pass the ammo... Praise the Lord and pass out the Legal Pads and pens... VERY potent weapons!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firepiper Posted July 28, 2011 at 05:15 AM Share Posted July 28, 2011 at 05:15 AM Is there any indication of the leanings on the second portion of the case, dealing with previous arrests, confiscation and destruction of the weapons and expungment of records? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneshot Posted July 28, 2011 at 05:48 AM Share Posted July 28, 2011 at 05:48 AM No Mauser. I just feel like the 101st at the Bulge and think that noise I hear is Patton coming down the road. With a squadron of A-10's that just came through a time warp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tvandermyde Posted July 28, 2011 at 12:42 PM Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 at 12:42 PM No Mauser. I just feel like the 101st at the Bulge and think that noise I hear is Patton coming down the road. With a squadron of A-10's that just came through a time warp. GR: Comanche 6 this is Ghost Rider 34. C: Ghost rider 34 this is Comanche 6 state number types and intentions. GR: Comanche we are flight of 6 Alpha-10 hogs on standby by CAP. C: Ghost Rider 34 this is Comanche 6 you are cleared HOT, heading 270. target is enemy in the open. Friendly lines marked with smoke. ID smoke. GR: I D green smoke. C: Affirmative Ghost Rider, bring the rain…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneshot Posted July 28, 2011 at 02:27 PM Share Posted July 28, 2011 at 02:27 PM No Mauser. I just feel like the 101st at the Bulge and think that noise I hear is Patton coming down the road. With a squadron of A-10's that just came through a time warp. C: Ghost Rider 34 this is Comanche 6 you are cleared HOT, heading 270. target is enemy in the open. Friendly lines marked with smoke. ID smoke. GR: I D green smoke. C: Affirmative Ghost Rider, bring the rain…. Yaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted July 28, 2011 at 02:29 PM Share Posted July 28, 2011 at 02:29 PM Guess I should have known not to bring a rock to a gun fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwing Posted July 28, 2011 at 05:18 PM Share Posted July 28, 2011 at 05:18 PM No Mauser. I just feel like the 101st at the Bulge and think that noise I hear is Patton coming down the road.With a squadron of A-10's that just came through a time warp. Ever seen "The Final Countdown"? U.S.S. Nimitz sent through time warp to Dec 6, 1941. Thought that was a pretty good movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchet Posted July 28, 2011 at 06:50 PM Share Posted July 28, 2011 at 06:50 PM Ever seen "The Final Countdown"? U.S.S. Nimitz sent through time warp to Dec 6, 1941. Thought that was a pretty good movie. XWING, thank you... i'm been trying to remember the name to that movie for a while now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdiller Posted July 28, 2011 at 07:06 PM Share Posted July 28, 2011 at 07:06 PM Seen it? heck I was on one of the cruisers escorting the numnutz when that film was made. No Mauser. I just feel like the 101st at the Bulge and think that noise I hear is Patton coming down the road.With a squadron of A-10's that just came through a time warp. Ever seen "The Final Countdown"? U.S.S. Nimitz sent through time warp to Dec 6, 1941. Thought that was a pretty good movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarandFan Posted July 28, 2011 at 07:21 PM Share Posted July 28, 2011 at 07:21 PM This reminds me of that cheesy 1980s band "Europe." Yeah, I grew up in the 80s. Can you believe that has 3.5 million views??!! Some time ago, when looking for extinction-level event video, I came across this one. It's pretty good for what it is. The music is a little trippy ... techno, or something. I don't know what they call the music type. It's nihilistic, but if a strike of that magnitude were to happen, there would be nothing to do but die. Mass extinction events have happened 5 times during the history of life on earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F12Mahon Posted July 28, 2011 at 10:49 PM Share Posted July 28, 2011 at 10:49 PM Ever seen "The Final Countdown"? U.S.S. Nimitz sent through time warp to Dec 6, 1941. Thought that was a pretty good movie. I've never seen that movie but it sounds like the inverse of The Philadelphia Experiment which I have seen . A naval ship transports from 1943 to 1984 during an experiment. I'll have to look for The Final Countdown. Eugene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielm60660 Posted July 29, 2011 at 03:58 PM Share Posted July 29, 2011 at 03:58 PM This is big, real big. I'm going to have to celebrate with a purchase if when we win this one.DM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Roark Posted August 4, 2011 at 03:27 AM Share Posted August 4, 2011 at 03:27 AM First, Todd, thanks for your work. California (CalGuns.net) is paying attention to us, nothing new, of course, but check this: Calguns.net link to IllinoisCarry Todd's twitter-like report that started this thread is really great. Information-full and real-time. heck, I'm didn't study the exact timings, but his report was really good. We harvested a very good crop in Ezell. We might harvest another good crop in 2nd Amd Arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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